Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:53:28 -0400, "Don White"
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:25:23 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For an bit of afternoon fishing, I'd be comfortable with a lot
less...especially with my light boat.
Heck - with that Princecraft, you could use a bobby pin on
monofilament and it would hold that boat. :)
That little mushroom anchor you threw in seems to do the trick.
I can't remember if it's 5 lbs or 8.
It's 20. :)


Wow.... I was using that line as an emergency hoist rope while setting up
staging this fall.
Good thing I didn't drop it on anyone.



You could have dropped it on loogy, flajim, or herring, and no one would
have known the difference. :)

"Harry" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:53:28 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:25:23 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For an bit of afternoon fishing, I'd be comfortable with a lot
less...especially with my light boat.
Heck - with that Princecraft, you could use a bobby pin on
monofilament and it would hold that boat. :)
That little mushroom anchor you threw in seems to do the trick.
I can't remember if it's 5 lbs or 8.
It's 20. :)


Wow.... I was using that line as an emergency hoist rope while setting up
staging this fall.
Good thing I didn't drop it on anyone.

You could have dropped it on loogy, flajim, or herring, and no one would
have known the difference. :)


I probably would have been charged with littering.

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:41:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:

I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

What he said. I also use the Danforth, ten feet of chain, and 150' of
3/8's braided for my 18'er. For the 21'er I used a 14lb Danforth, for
the 18'er I use a 9lb.

http://www.danforthanchors.com/standard.html
--
John H

"The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money."
--Margaret Thatcher

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:40:03 -0800 (PST), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Jan 1, 11:41 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:
I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02

That is the problem - 20' of chain is over kill in my opinion. For a
boat that size, 6' to 8' is more than sufficient. In theory, you
should have 1/8" of line thickness for every 10' of boat length, but
for a 20' boat, that's only a 1/4". 1/4" line is very difficult to
handle.

It's all a compromise for small boats - 20' of anchor chain is over
kill as is 3/8" braided line, but 8' of 1/4" chain and 150' of 3/8"
brained is sufficient for almost all situations you are going to have
to anchor in.

I have a 25# anchor similar to a Danforth and 6' of 5/16" chain. 3/8 rode,
but that is so my hands do not complain when I pull that overweight hunk of
iron.

Bill McKee wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:40:03 -0800 (PST), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Jan 1, 11:41 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:
I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.
To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.
I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02
That is the problem - 20' of chain is over kill in my opinion. For a
boat that size, 6' to 8' is more than sufficient. In theory, you
should have 1/8" of line thickness for every 10' of boat length, but
for a 20' boat, that's only a 1/4". 1/4" line is very difficult to
handle.

It's all a compromise for small boats - 20' of anchor chain is over
kill as is 3/8" braided line, but 8' of 1/4" chain and 150' of 3/8"
brained is sufficient for almost all situations you are going to have
to anchor in.

I have a 25# anchor similar to a Danforth and 6' of 5/16" chain. 3/8 rode,
but that is so my hands do not complain when I pull that overweight hunk of
iron.




I use a 1/2" line for the same reason: easier on the hands. Came with
the boat as part of the dealer package. Typically, 3/8" is supplied with
the dealer kit for my 21-footer, but I asked the dealer for a larger
line and he supplied it. No biggie.

On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:57:01 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:40:03 -0800 (PST), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Jan 1, 11:41 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:
I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02

That is the problem - 20' of chain is over kill in my opinion. For a
boat that size, 6' to 8' is more than sufficient. In theory, you
should have 1/8" of line thickness for every 10' of boat length, but
for a 20' boat, that's only a 1/4". 1/4" line is very difficult to
handle.

It's all a compromise for small boats - 20' of anchor chain is over
kill as is 3/8" braided line, but 8' of 1/4" chain and 150' of 3/8"
brained is sufficient for almost all situations you are going to have
to anchor in.

I have a 25# anchor similar to a Danforth and 6' of 5/16" chain. 3/8 rode,
but that is so my hands do not complain when I pull that overweight hunk of
iron.

Exactly.

I have retrieved lots of anchors scuba diving in Lake Mead and the Colorado
river. Some were easy, some stuck fast. I would suggest matching the
anchor to the terrain as the major factor. After that, it's just dumb luck.
I could see just how some people lost theirs, tracing their remnant of
anchor ropes. It was amazing that most of them just had to back up, but
probably didn't have, couldn't read, or couldn't see their compasses. A
couple took prybars, but most just came out when pulled in the right
direction. Lots of them had that slider ring.

Steve

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:25:23 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

For an bit of afternoon fishing, I'd be comfortable with a lot
less...especially with my light boat.

Heck - with that Princecraft, you could use a bobby pin on
monofilament and it would hold that boat. :)

I have a 16' aluminum Lund, and I have two anchors, each with 100'. Most of
my fishing is in less than 50' of water, and most like 20. I have so much
rope because I put out two, then slide along the lines between to cover an
area slowly, and not have to mess with the trolling motor if there's a
breeze.

Steve

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:57:01 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:40:03 -0800 (PST), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Jan 1, 11:41 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:
I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone
had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've
read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth
the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02

That is the problem - 20' of chain is over kill in my opinion. For a
boat that size, 6' to 8' is more than sufficient. In theory, you
should have 1/8" of line thickness for every 10' of boat length, but
for a 20' boat, that's only a 1/4". 1/4" line is very difficult to
handle.

It's all a compromise for small boats - 20' of anchor chain is over
kill as is 3/8" braided line, but 8' of 1/4" chain and 150' of 3/8"
brained is sufficient for almost all situations you are going to have
to anchor in.

I have a 25# anchor similar to a Danforth and 6' of 5/16" chain. 3/8
rode,
but that is so my hands do not complain when I pull that overweight hunk
of
iron.

Exactly.

I would go to 1/2" but in fast river currents, there are problems with more
drag.

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I have retrieved lots of anchors scuba diving in Lake Mead and the Colorado
river. Some were easy, some stuck fast. I would suggest matching the
anchor to the terrain as the major factor. After that, it's just dumb
luck. I could see just how some people lost theirs, tracing their remnant
of anchor ropes. It was amazing that most of them just had to back up, but
probably didn't have, couldn't read, or couldn't see their compasses. A
couple took prybars, but most just came out when pulled in the right
direction. Lots of them had that slider ring.

Steve

I found one in Oroville, that I finally just recovered the line. Anchor was
really wedged in to a crevasse.