I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

Thanks,
Bruce

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:

I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

On Jan 1, 11:41*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:
I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. *Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? *I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. *I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:40:03 -0800 (PST), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Jan 1, 11:41*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:
I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. *Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? *I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. *I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02

That is the problem - 20' of chain is over kill in my opinion. For a
boat that size, 6' to 8' is more than sufficient. In theory, you
should have 1/8" of line thickness for every 10' of boat length, but
for a 20' boat, that's only a 1/4". 1/4" line is very difficult to
handle.

It's all a compromise for small boats - 20' of anchor chain is over
kill as is 3/8" braided line, but 8' of 1/4" chain and 150' of 3/8"
brained is sufficient for almost all situations you are going to have
to anchor in.

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:40:03 -0800 (PST), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Jan 1, 11:41 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:
I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02

That is the problem - 20' of chain is over kill in my opinion. For a
boat that size, 6' to 8' is more than sufficient. In theory, you
should have 1/8" of line thickness for every 10' of boat length, but
for a 20' boat, that's only a 1/4". 1/4" line is very difficult to
handle.

It's all a compromise for small boats - 20' of anchor chain is over
kill as is 3/8" braided line, but 8' of 1/4" chain and 150' of 3/8"
brained is sufficient for almost all situations you are going to have
to anchor in.

I have a 25# anchor similar to a Danforth and 6' of 5/16" chain. 3/8 rode,
but that is so my hands do not complain when I pull that overweight hunk of
iron.

Bill McKee wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:40:03 -0800 (PST), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Jan 1, 11:41 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:
I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.
To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.
I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02
That is the problem - 20' of chain is over kill in my opinion. For a
boat that size, 6' to 8' is more than sufficient. In theory, you
should have 1/8" of line thickness for every 10' of boat length, but
for a 20' boat, that's only a 1/4". 1/4" line is very difficult to
handle.

It's all a compromise for small boats - 20' of anchor chain is over
kill as is 3/8" braided line, but 8' of 1/4" chain and 150' of 3/8"
brained is sufficient for almost all situations you are going to have
to anchor in.

I have a 25# anchor similar to a Danforth and 6' of 5/16" chain. 3/8 rode,
but that is so my hands do not complain when I pull that overweight hunk of
iron.




I use a 1/2" line for the same reason: easier on the hands. Came with
the boat as part of the dealer package. Typically, 3/8" is supplied with
the dealer kit for my 21-footer, but I asked the dealer for a larger
line and he supplied it. No biggie.

On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:57:01 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:40:03 -0800 (PST), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Jan 1, 11:41 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:
I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02

That is the problem - 20' of chain is over kill in my opinion. For a
boat that size, 6' to 8' is more than sufficient. In theory, you
should have 1/8" of line thickness for every 10' of boat length, but
for a 20' boat, that's only a 1/4". 1/4" line is very difficult to
handle.

It's all a compromise for small boats - 20' of anchor chain is over
kill as is 3/8" braided line, but 8' of 1/4" chain and 150' of 3/8"
brained is sufficient for almost all situations you are going to have
to anchor in.

I have a 25# anchor similar to a Danforth and 6' of 5/16" chain. 3/8 rode,
but that is so my hands do not complain when I pull that overweight hunk of
iron.

Exactly.

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:40:03 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


On Jan 1, 11:41 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, wrote:

I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02

That is the problem - 20' of chain is over kill in my opinion. For a
boat that size, 6' to 8' is more than sufficient. In theory, you
should have 1/8" of line thickness for every 10' of boat length, but
for a 20' boat, that's only a 1/4". 1/4" line is very difficult to
handle.

It's all a compromise for small boats - 20' of anchor chain is over
kill as is 3/8" braided line, but 8' of 1/4" chain and 150' of 3/8"
brained is sufficient for almost all situations you are going to have
to anchor in.

I have 1/2" braided line and 3/8" chain. I got the line at a marine
flea market for a great price.

Bruce

*e#c wrote:
On Jan 1, 11:41 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:
I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.
To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02

Ah yes big fella. I have coached you well. Are you ready to move on to
the topic of bumpers vs fenders?
--
If it's not posted with a mac, it's the real deal.

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:37:54 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:40:03 -0800 (PST), "*e#c"
wrote:

On Jan 1, 11:41*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:
I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. *Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? *I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. *I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain ..

Isn't your Rode supposed to be as long as your Boat? I've read OUR
Regs, and that's what it says. I just wonder where to store 20 FEET of
CHAIN in a 20 foot Runabout.... I guess the Battery Box will do. I do
have a anchor Storage forward, but with the Anchor, the chain, and all
that rope in there, it'd hold it all. The "lake " toolbox occupies it
for now.

Just my .02

Depending on conditions, an all line rode will work, but if you anchor
in deeper water and/or poor conditions.... wind, waves, bottom contour
or make-up, etc the more chain, the better. I carry 30' of chain and
250' of line....

I don't fish in waters that would require that kind of ground gear,
but I take your point.