On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:41:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, Bruce wrote:

I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.

What he said. I also use the Danforth, ten feet of chain, and 150' of
3/8's braided for my 18'er. For the 21'er I used a 14lb Danforth, for
the 18'er I use a 9lb.

http://www.danforthanchors.com/standard.html
--
John H

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I have retrieved lots of anchors scuba diving in Lake Mead and the Colorado
river. Some were easy, some stuck fast. I would suggest matching the
anchor to the terrain as the major factor. After that, it's just dumb luck.
I could see just how some people lost theirs, tracing their remnant of
anchor ropes. It was amazing that most of them just had to back up, but
probably didn't have, couldn't read, or couldn't see their compasses. A
couple took prybars, but most just came out when pulled in the right
direction. Lots of them had that slider ring.

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
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I have retrieved lots of anchors scuba diving in Lake Mead and the Colorado
river. Some were easy, some stuck fast. I would suggest matching the
anchor to the terrain as the major factor. After that, it's just dumb
luck. I could see just how some people lost theirs, tracing their remnant
of anchor ropes. It was amazing that most of them just had to back up, but
probably didn't have, couldn't read, or couldn't see their compasses. A
couple took prybars, but most just came out when pulled in the right
direction. Lots of them had that slider ring.

Steve

I found one in Oroville, that I finally just recovered the line. Anchor was
really wedged in to a crevasse.

Steve B wrote:
I have retrieved lots of anchors scuba diving in Lake Mead and the Colorado
river. Some were easy, some stuck fast. I would suggest matching the
anchor to the terrain as the major factor. After that, it's just dumb luck.
I could see just how some people lost theirs, tracing their remnant of
anchor ropes. It was amazing that most of them just had to back up, but
probably didn't have, couldn't read, or couldn't see their compasses. A
couple took prybars, but most just came out when pulled in the right
direction. Lots of them had that slider ring.

Steve



They are both essentially the same design and from the same
manufacturer. The Fortress is nearly twice the price of the Guardian.
I anchor mostly in sand.

Here's the website: http://www.fortressanchors.com/

I'm covered in the chain/rope/scope department.

Bruce

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:33:41 -0500, wrote:


I'm looking for a new anchor for my 20' center console. Has anyone had
any real-world experience with the Fortress and the Guardian? I've read
the website but it doesn't help me decide if the Fortress is worth the
extra money.

To tell you the truth, I don't see why you would need the Fortress as
the Guardian is just as capable - it just doesn't have the extra
machining and that angle adjustment do-hickey thing which you
shouldn't need anyway.

You're still going to need about 6 to 8' of chain though so keep that
in mind - the chain makes the anchor a little uncomfortable to handle,
but it helps set the anchor and hold it in place.

It looks like the base Guardian anchor should be sufficient for a 20'
CC. I use a regular Danforth, 8' of chain and 150' of 3/8" braided
line and it holds on almost any type of bottom conditions.


Thanks! I have 20' of chain and 200' (maybe 250') of rope so that's not
an issue.

Bruce