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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Dec 26, 10:28 pm, Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 10:25 PM, Rob wrote:



Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 8:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:17:44 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

TSA

Again Jon Stewart points out things the real news missed

Obama still hasn't filled the office of director of TSA.

Bush's TSA is a department of idiots. The best thing Obama could do is
restructure it, replace every bit of management, and retrain the
entire staff. Leaving SF for Chicago and then DC a couple of weeks
ago, I ran into a TSA'er who spent five minutes shining a blue
flashlight onto my state driver's license. She was looking in the
wrong place for the "invisible" part. So I said, "Want to examine one
of my concealed carry permits?" They all have my photo on them, too. I
thought she was going to loogy her pants.

Sure. You know that never happened you ****ing liar.

Carry on...

Another example of Rob's "debate" skills.

The Obamination has had nearly a year to appoint somebody to TSA and
to alter it in any way he chooses but he does NOTHING so this incident
happens. Pure Dem incompetence.

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"The Dems hate us for our freedom".
Oh, I may have the next hot bumper sticker! How many do you want?
BTW, was the "Shoe Bomber" pure Rep incompetence? They had some ass clown as
TSA director so does that make it/them even more incompetent? Just trying to
see how your statement makes the slightest bit of sense.

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Somalia in the Midwest
 

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Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 26, 7:03 pm, lil abner wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
For a look at where rule by Democrats will get us, look no further
than Detroit. Detroit, ruled for many years by a Dem mayor and by the
unions is a failed city more resembling Mogadishu than a US city.
Demo mis-rule has resulted in a dying economy with high unemployment
and schools with a 24% graduation rate.
Of course, if you want to see Dem economics on a larger scale, one can
see the failed state of California, hopelessly broke with no
possibility of paying its bills but the legislature still increases
the budget to pay for pay increases for state employees.
Then there is the War on Terror which we were assured was over,
ooops, dont pay attention to the guy on the plane landing
in............Detroit.
On Thursday, I was told by a local Demofool that having TSA check for
"build a bomb e-route" materials was stupid because it could not
happen..........oooops. Sorta reminds me of when Clinton was Pres and
George Will wrote an article about using aircraft as weapons against
buildings and the Dems said it was just a paranoid fantasy...ooopps.
Now the union Members are somehow responsible, for Islamic Terrorism,
and the Globalist Banking theft, of our economy and almost collapse. idiot.
They will solve airplane terrorism by making everyone, including crew
board naked, as a jay bird, and handcuffing them to the seats. The
luggage will be sent by ground transport.
Makes me wonder why the Bus lines and Railroads aren't even in the hunt
for passengers.

Can nom prove Bush was warned about 9/11? I can prove Clinton was
offered Bin Laden and refused.
Nah, no relationshipe tween the nearly $2000 extra a GM vehicle costs
relative to a foreign car and union gold plated pensions and overpaid
union workers.
Global theft, oh, you mean the rotund Barney Frank.
I don't think their is anyone that believes Bush etc had anything to do
with 9/11. The people that try to infer that junk are trying to rabble
rouse.
2,000 extra? How about the Joan Clabrooks and NHTSA and EPA?
How about the bean counter engineering from Wall Street?
Gold plated pensions must mean being able to afford anything but McDonalds.

McDonalds is no longer a valid representation of "cheap in comparison".
The other night we ordered two burgers and two fries, it came to 12
dollars. For the price of a meal (with desert) at McDonalds, now you can
sit down at several local establishments for a nice fresh cooked meal...

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On 12/27/09 12:52 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:57:57 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/27/09 1:56 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:53:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:52:21 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/26/09 8:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:17:44 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:


TSA

Again Jon Stewart points out things the real news missed

Obama still hasn't filled the office of director of TSA.



Bush's TSA is a department of idiots. The best thing Obama could do is
restructure it, replace every bit of management, and retrain the entire
staff. Leaving SF for Chicago and then DC a couple of weeks ago, I ran
into a TSA'er who spent five minutes shining a blue flashlight onto my
state driver's license. She was looking in the wrong place for the
"invisible" part. So I said, "Want to examine one of my concealed carry
permits?" They all have my photo on them, too. I thought she was going
to loogy her pants.

It was the Democrats who demanded that we fire the private security
people and make them "fireproof" government dweebs.


You're in favor of Blackwater running the TSA?? I don't think so...


Blackwater is the group protecting Hillary right now so somebody likes
them.
There was still no reason why the actual screeners could not be
contracted and working under TSA guidance. The way it is, we own those
people forever, even if they came up with a lot less labor intensive
way to screen passengers. If anything, having 45,000 minimally
skilled employees, you can't fire, will stifle innovation. "Thinking"
was never a job requirement for this job.


Are you under the delusion that federal employees are immune from layoffs?

They aren't.


But it really hasn't happened since the Eisenhower administration.
Tell me about ONE year when federal employment actually went down
since 1960.
If you threaten to lay off a federal employee they start firing off
171s and get a new job before they lose a pay check. Usually that is
not even necessary because when they close an agency, another one
springs up in the same building with the same people. The only thing
that changed was the name on the building.
They changed so many signs during the Carter administration the joke
was GSA installed them with thumb screws.
Us Coast and Geodetic Survey on Montrose rd became ESSA and then NOAA.
AEC in Germantown became ERDA and then DOE (maybe something else I
forgot in between). HEW on Parklawn drive changed names a couple
times ending up being HHS.
If you were walking around in the building every day nothing changed
but the stationary.


Actually, the RIF I vaguely recall took place during the reagan
mis-administration, in the fall of his first year in office. I remember
it because I had as a client a couple of postal unions, and thanks to
the contract, they were exempt. The client contact was recruited by the
reagan admin to become deputy pmg, and I could have gone along as his
chief assistant. We both were not interested. The USPS was infected with
the worst management of any organization on the face of the earth.

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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:53:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:52:21 -0500, Harry
wrote:

On 12/26/09 8:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:17:44 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:


TSA

Again Jon Stewart points out things the real news missed

Obama still hasn't filled the office of director of TSA.



Bush's TSA is a department of idiots. The best thing Obama could do is
restructure it, replace every bit of management, and retrain the entire
staff. Leaving SF for Chicago and then DC a couple of weeks ago, I ran
into a TSA'er who spent five minutes shining a blue flashlight onto my
state driver's license. She was looking in the wrong place for the
"invisible" part. So I said, "Want to examine one of my concealed carry
permits?" They all have my photo on them, too. I thought she was going
to loogy her pants.

It was the Democrats who demanded that we fire the private security
people and make them "fireproof" government dweebs.


You're in favor of Blackwater running the TSA?? I don't think so...


Blackwater is the group protecting Hillary right now so somebody likes
them.

Firstly, you don't know this for sure. She still has secret service
protection I believe. Secondly, BW no longer exists under that name.
Thirdly, their involvement should be shutdown, as they're a corrupt,
ultra-right-wing organization.

There was still no reason why the actual screeners could not be
contracted and working under TSA guidance. The way it is, we own those
people forever, even if they came up with a lot less labor intensive
way to screen passengers. If anything, having 45,000 minimally
skilled employees, you can't fire, will stifle innovation. "Thinking"
was never a job requirement for this job.


Perhaps you'd like to blame someone? Go for it.

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"mmc" wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:53:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:52:21 -0500, Harry
wrote:

On 12/26/09 8:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:17:44 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:


TSA

Again Jon Stewart points out things the real news missed

Obama still hasn't filled the office of director of TSA.



Bush's TSA is a department of idiots. The best thing Obama could do is
restructure it, replace every bit of management, and retrain the entire
staff. Leaving SF for Chicago and then DC a couple of weeks ago, I ran
into a TSA'er who spent five minutes shining a blue flashlight onto my
state driver's license. She was looking in the wrong place for the
"invisible" part. So I said, "Want to examine one of my concealed carry
permits?" They all have my photo on them, too. I thought she was going
to loogy her pants.

It was the Democrats who demanded that we fire the private security
people and make them "fireproof" government dweebs.


You're in favor of Blackwater running the TSA?? I don't think so...


Blackwater is the group protecting Hillary right now so somebody likes
them.
There was still no reason why the actual screeners could not be
contracted and working under TSA guidance. The way it is, we own those
people forever, even if they came up with a lot less labor intensive
way to screen passengers. If anything, having 45,000 minimally
skilled employees, you can't fire, will stifle innovation. "Thinking"
was never a job requirement for this job.


If the contract were let based on technical ability and not low bid I'd
agree. Low bid is where these people came from when Washington "fixed" our
security by making them all federal employees.
As it is, TSA, our first line of defense, looks like a social program
staffed with jerkoffs that are as likely to steal out of your luggage than
screen for hazardous goods.



Gee... I wonder who did that....


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Somalia in the Midwest
 

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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Dec 26, 10:28 pm, Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 10:25 PM, Rob wrote:



Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 8:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:17:44 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

TSA

Again Jon Stewart points out things the real news missed

Obama still hasn't filled the office of director of TSA.

Bush's TSA is a department of idiots. The best thing Obama could do is
restructure it, replace every bit of management, and retrain the
entire staff. Leaving SF for Chicago and then DC a couple of weeks
ago, I ran into a TSA'er who spent five minutes shining a blue
flashlight onto my state driver's license. She was looking in the
wrong place for the "invisible" part. So I said, "Want to examine one
of my concealed carry permits?" They all have my photo on them, too. I
thought she was going to loogy her pants.

Sure. You know that never happened you ****ing liar.

Carry on...

Another example of Rob's "debate" skills.

The Obamination has had nearly a year to appoint somebody to TSA and
to alter it in any way he chooses but he does NOTHING so this incident
happens. Pure Dem incompetence.


Completely untrue.

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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:00:39 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:52:57 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:17:44 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:


TSA

Again Jon Stewart points out things the real news missed

Obama still hasn't filled the office of director of TSA.



They have an acting director. It's not like there's no one in charge.

I wonder why the Senate hasn't gotten around to it... perhaps it's been
the
obstructionism going on by the Republicans, who are continually
threatening
the filibuster, even with Defense bills? Nah, couldn't be that...


The TSA is an executive branch department. Obama has to appoint the
director.
I am not even sure they have to be ratified by the senate at that
level. It would be a rubber stamp thing anyway.


It's an appointment and it needs to be approved by the senate. It's being
held up, as I said, by the right-wing.

If you're not sure, look it up instead of guessing.


OK that was easy, there is no hit on TSA confirmation on Thomas.
There has not been a bill with those words introduced in the senate or
the house.
Now back to you. Who's confirmation IS being held up?


The Senate. Try again.

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Somalia in the Midwest
 

On 26/12/2009 9:38 PM, Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 11:30 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Dec 26, 10:28 pm, wrote:
On 12/26/09 10:25 PM, Rob wrote:



Harry wrote:
On 12/26/09 8:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:17:44 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

TSA

Again Jon Stewart points out things the real news missed

Obama still hasn't filled the office of director of TSA.

Bush's TSA is a department of idiots. The best thing Obama could do is
restructure it, replace every bit of management, and retrain the
entire staff. Leaving SF for Chicago and then DC a couple of weeks
ago, I ran into a TSA'er who spent five minutes shining a blue
flashlight onto my state driver's license. She was looking in the
wrong place for the "invisible" part. So I said, "Want to examine one
of my concealed carry permits?" They all have my photo on them, too. I
thought she was going to loogy her pants.

Sure. You know that never happened you ****ing liar.

Carry on...

Another example of Rob's "debate" skills.

The Obamination has had nearly a year to appoint somebody to TSA and
to alter it in any way he chooses but he does NOTHING so this incident
happens. Pure Dem incompetence.


So, in your simple little frogwatch brain, you think that because there
is no chief administrator at TSA, terrorist wanna-be's are free to have
their way with our planes? Is that what you think?

The way to alter the TSA is to scrap it and start over. It was the
product of the incompetent Bush admin, and a clean sheet of paper is
needed to design something that can be competent at its job.

So we can replace Bush incompetance with Obamanation incompetance?

Somalia in the Midwest
 

On 26/12/2009 10:52 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:17:44 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:


TSA

Again Jon Stewart points out things the real news missed

Obama still hasn't filled the office of director of TSA.



They have an acting director. It's not like there's no one in charge.

I wonder why the Senate hasn't gotten around to it... perhaps it's been the
obstructionism going on by the Republicans, who are continually threatening
the filibuster, even with Defense bills? Nah, couldn't be that...

Given the senate is democratic majority, it must be democratic
infighting for pork spending. No one thinks the position is worth the pork.