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jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:46 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
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Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
I see from your statement, that if you did graduate college, it was
not in
the hard science disciplines.

I see you're mistaken. I was a double major... biology and English
lit. The
former is one of the requirements for being a patent attorney.

I also see that you have no logical argument, thus your pathetic
attempt to
put me down.

Man up Bill.


You said nothing about degrees. So a patent attorney needs only a
biology degree?


You need to have a bs in order to become a patent agent. Biology
qualifies. There are very specific requirements. I also have a JD/MBA
also if that makes you feel better. Thus, I'm a patent attorney, not
just an agent. The pass rate for the exam is about 40%.

Here's a link that'll boil it down for you in steps even you can
comprehend..

http://inventors.about.com/od/patent...t_Attorney.htm

I was category A with a bio degree.

http://patbar.com/FAQ-patent-bar-exam.shtml#data-18

--
Nom=de=Plume

When I was dealing with the patent attorney for my patent, I came to the
conclusion that patent attorney has to be one of the most boring, least
mentally stimulating endeavors a JD can get involved in.
Do you really believe she has a JD?

Nope. Do not believe she sells high end clothes. May not even be a she.


A jealous ass who cannot abide a debate adversary's personal success.

Most of these dweebs can't deal with the fact that Harry does well,
I'm an employer or you have a JD and sell high end clothes.

It makes 'em crazy like a drowning swimmer. They'll use anything
within their grasp to keep their noses above the surface.



This is Usenet, full of exaggerations and outright lies.
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:46 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
I see from your statement, that if you did graduate college, it
was not in
the hard science disciplines.

I see you're mistaken. I was a double major... biology and English
lit. The
former is one of the requirements for being a patent attorney.

I also see that you have no logical argument, thus your pathetic
attempt to
put me down.

Man up Bill.


You said nothing about degrees. So a patent attorney needs only a
biology degree?


You need to have a bs in order to become a patent agent. Biology
qualifies. There are very specific requirements. I also have a JD/MBA
also if that makes you feel better. Thus, I'm a patent attorney, not
just an agent. The pass rate for the exam is about 40%.

Here's a link that'll boil it down for you in steps even you can
comprehend..

http://inventors.about.com/od/patent...t_Attorney.htm

I was category A with a bio degree.

http://patbar.com/FAQ-patent-bar-exam.shtml#data-18

--
Nom=de=Plume

When I was dealing with the patent attorney for my patent, I came to
the conclusion that patent attorney has to be one of the most boring,
least mentally stimulating endeavors a JD can get involved in.
Do you really believe she has a JD?
Nope. Do not believe she sells high end clothes. May not even be a
she.


A jealous ass who cannot abide a debate adversary's personal success.

Most of these dweebs can't deal with the fact that Harry does well,
I'm an employer or you have a JD and sell high end clothes.

It makes 'em crazy like a drowning swimmer. They'll use anything
within their grasp to keep their noses above the surface.



This is Usenet, full of exaggerations and outright lies.



That's certainly true. Bill is welcome to call me a liar if he thinks
that'll help his self-esteem.


--
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:46 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
I see from your statement, that if you did graduate college, it
was not in
the hard science disciplines.

I see you're mistaken. I was a double major... biology and English
lit. The
former is one of the requirements for being a patent attorney.

I also see that you have no logical argument, thus your pathetic
attempt to
put me down.

Man up Bill.


You said nothing about degrees. So a patent attorney needs only a
biology degree?


You need to have a bs in order to become a patent agent. Biology
qualifies. There are very specific requirements. I also have a
JD/MBA also if that makes you feel better. Thus, I'm a patent
attorney, not just an agent. The pass rate for the exam is about
40%.

Here's a link that'll boil it down for you in steps even you can
comprehend..

http://inventors.about.com/od/patent...t_Attorney.htm

I was category A with a bio degree.

http://patbar.com/FAQ-patent-bar-exam.shtml#data-18

--
Nom=de=Plume

When I was dealing with the patent attorney for my patent, I came to
the conclusion that patent attorney has to be one of the most boring,
least mentally stimulating endeavors a JD can get involved in.
Do you really believe she has a JD?
Nope. Do not believe she sells high end clothes. May not even be a
she.

A jealous ass who cannot abide a debate adversary's personal success.

Most of these dweebs can't deal with the fact that Harry does well,
I'm an employer or you have a JD and sell high end clothes.

It makes 'em crazy like a drowning swimmer. They'll use anything
within their grasp to keep their noses above the surface.



This is Usenet, full of exaggerations and outright lies.



That's certainly true. Bill is welcome to call me a liar if he thinks
that'll help his self-esteem.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Nothing to do with my self esteem.


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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:46 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
I see from your statement, that if you did graduate college, it
was not in
the hard science disciplines.

I see you're mistaken. I was a double major... biology and
English lit. The
former is one of the requirements for being a patent attorney.

I also see that you have no logical argument, thus your pathetic
attempt to
put me down.

Man up Bill.


You said nothing about degrees. So a patent attorney needs only a
biology degree?


You need to have a bs in order to become a patent agent. Biology
qualifies. There are very specific requirements. I also have a
JD/MBA also if that makes you feel better. Thus, I'm a patent
attorney, not just an agent. The pass rate for the exam is about
40%.

Here's a link that'll boil it down for you in steps even you can
comprehend..

http://inventors.about.com/od/patent...t_Attorney.htm

I was category A with a bio degree.

http://patbar.com/FAQ-patent-bar-exam.shtml#data-18

--
Nom=de=Plume

When I was dealing with the patent attorney for my patent, I came to
the conclusion that patent attorney has to be one of the most
boring, least mentally stimulating endeavors a JD can get involved
in.
Do you really believe she has a JD?
Nope. Do not believe she sells high end clothes. May not even be a
she.

A jealous ass who cannot abide a debate adversary's personal success.

Most of these dweebs can't deal with the fact that Harry does well,
I'm an employer or you have a JD and sell high end clothes.

It makes 'em crazy like a drowning swimmer. They'll use anything
within their grasp to keep their noses above the surface.


This is Usenet, full of exaggerations and outright lies.



That's certainly true. Bill is welcome to call me a liar if he thinks
that'll help his self-esteem.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Nothing to do with my self esteem.


You have some? Good for you!!

--
Nom=de=Plume


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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:18:06 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:46 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
I see from your statement, that if you did graduate college, it was
not in
the hard science disciplines.

I see you're mistaken. I was a double major... biology and English
lit. The
former is one of the requirements for being a patent attorney.

I also see that you have no logical argument, thus your pathetic
attempt to
put me down.

Man up Bill.


You said nothing about degrees. So a patent attorney needs only a
biology degree?


You need to have a bs in order to become a patent agent. Biology
qualifies. There are very specific requirements. I also have a JD/MBA
also if that makes you feel better. Thus, I'm a patent attorney, not
just an agent. The pass rate for the exam is about 40%.

Here's a link that'll boil it down for you in steps even you can
comprehend..

http://inventors.about.com/od/patent...t_Attorney.htm

I was category A with a bio degree.

http://patbar.com/FAQ-patent-bar-exam.shtml#data-18

--
Nom=de=Plume

When I was dealing with the patent attorney for my patent, I came to the
conclusion that patent attorney has to be one of the most boring, least
mentally stimulating endeavors a JD can get involved in.
Do you really believe she has a JD?
Nope. Do not believe she sells high end clothes. May not even be a she.


A jealous ass who cannot abide a debate adversary's personal success.

Most of these dweebs can't deal with the fact that Harry does well,
I'm an employer or you have a JD and sell high end clothes.

It makes 'em crazy like a drowning swimmer. They'll use anything
within their grasp to keep their noses above the surface.



This is Usenet, full of exaggerations and outright lies.


'Debate adversary' in that context is one of the biggest I've seen
yet. Vacuous minded space cadet would be much more descriptive of the
plum. But, she (he, it?) does seem to have entranced a few hereabouts.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H


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On Dec 22, 3:52*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:18:06 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:46 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Jim" wrote in message
. ..
Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Rob" wrote in message
news:TrOdnYURssdeD7DWnZ2dnUVZ_t1i4p2d@gigane ws.com...
nom=de=plume wrote:
I see from your statement, that if you did graduate college, it was
not in
the hard science disciplines.


I see you're mistaken. I was a double major... biology and English
lit. The
former is one of the requirements for being a patent attorney.


I also see that you have no logical argument, thus your pathetic
attempt to
put me down.


Man up Bill.


You said nothing about degrees. *So a patent attorney needs only a
biology degree?


You need to have a bs in order to become a patent agent. Biology
qualifies. There are very specific requirements. I also have a JD/MBA
also if that makes you feel better. Thus, I'm a patent attorney, not
just an agent. The pass rate for the exam is about 40%.


Here's a link that'll boil it down for you in steps even you can
comprehend..


http://inventors.about.com/od/patent...t_Attorney.htm


I was category A with a bio degree.


http://patbar.com/FAQ-patent-bar-exam.shtml#data-18


--
Nom=de=Plume


When I was dealing with the patent attorney for my patent, I came to the
conclusion that patent attorney has to be one of the most boring, least
mentally stimulating endeavors a JD can get involved in.
Do you really believe she has a JD?
Nope. *Do not believe she sells high end clothes. *May not even be a she.


A jealous ass who cannot abide a debate adversary's personal success.


Most of these dweebs can't deal with the fact that Harry does well,
I'm an employer or you have a JD and sell high end clothes.


It makes 'em crazy like a drowning swimmer. They'll *use anything
within their grasp to keep their noses above the surface.


This is Usenet, full of exaggerations and outright lies.


'Debate adversary' in that context is one of the biggest I've seen
yet. Vacuous minded space cadet would be much more descriptive of the
plum. But, she (he, it?) does seem to have entranced a few hereabouts.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


This from the person who whines constantly about name calling, even
when someone didn't do such.
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"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:18:06 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:46 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
I see from your statement, that if you did graduate college, it
was
not in
the hard science disciplines.

I see you're mistaken. I was a double major... biology and English
lit. The
former is one of the requirements for being a patent attorney.

I also see that you have no logical argument, thus your pathetic
attempt to
put me down.

Man up Bill.


You said nothing about degrees. So a patent attorney needs only a
biology degree?


You need to have a bs in order to become a patent agent. Biology
qualifies. There are very specific requirements. I also have a
JD/MBA
also if that makes you feel better. Thus, I'm a patent attorney, not
just an agent. The pass rate for the exam is about 40%.

Here's a link that'll boil it down for you in steps even you can
comprehend..

http://inventors.about.com/od/patent...t_Attorney.htm

I was category A with a bio degree.

http://patbar.com/FAQ-patent-bar-exam.shtml#data-18

--
Nom=de=Plume

When I was dealing with the patent attorney for my patent, I came to
the
conclusion that patent attorney has to be one of the most boring,
least
mentally stimulating endeavors a JD can get involved in.
Do you really believe she has a JD?
Nope. Do not believe she sells high end clothes. May not even be a
she.

A jealous ass who cannot abide a debate adversary's personal success.

Most of these dweebs can't deal with the fact that Harry does well,
I'm an employer or you have a JD and sell high end clothes.

It makes 'em crazy like a drowning swimmer. They'll use anything
within their grasp to keep their noses above the surface.



This is Usenet, full of exaggerations and outright lies.


'Debate adversary' in that context is one of the biggest I've seen
yet. Vacuous minded space cadet would be much more descriptive of the
plum. But, she (he, it?) does seem to have entranced a few hereabouts.
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H



Like you, apparently. Ewww...


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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:46 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
I see from your statement, that if you did graduate college,
it was not in
the hard science disciplines.

I see you're mistaken. I was a double major... biology and
English lit. The
former is one of the requirements for being a patent attorney.

I also see that you have no logical argument, thus your
pathetic attempt to
put me down.

Man up Bill.


You said nothing about degrees. So a patent attorney needs only
a biology degree?


You need to have a bs in order to become a patent agent. Biology
qualifies. There are very specific requirements. I also have a
JD/MBA also if that makes you feel better. Thus, I'm a patent
attorney, not just an agent. The pass rate for the exam is about
40%.

Here's a link that'll boil it down for you in steps even you can
comprehend..

http://inventors.about.com/od/patent...t_Attorney.htm

I was category A with a bio degree.

http://patbar.com/FAQ-patent-bar-exam.shtml#data-18

--
Nom=de=Plume

When I was dealing with the patent attorney for my patent, I came
to the conclusion that patent attorney has to be one of the most
boring, least mentally stimulating endeavors a JD can get involved
in.
Do you really believe she has a JD?
Nope. Do not believe she sells high end clothes. May not even be a
she.

A jealous ass who cannot abide a debate adversary's personal success.

Most of these dweebs can't deal with the fact that Harry does well,
I'm an employer or you have a JD and sell high end clothes.

It makes 'em crazy like a drowning swimmer. They'll use anything
within their grasp to keep their noses above the surface.


This is Usenet, full of exaggerations and outright lies.


That's certainly true. Bill is welcome to call me a liar if he thinks
that'll help his self-esteem.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Nothing to do with my self esteem.


You have some? Good for you!!

--
Nom=de=Plume


Damn, I think I am going to stop responding to you. Not only are you
stupid, can not comprehend what you read, and most likely a liar if the
order of Harry, you are infatuated with me. And you are not my type.


Well Bill, you're the one who seems to have a problem communicating.

You claim that I'm not a patent attorney, then show you how simple it is to
search for patents on PTO site, find something under Bill McKee, which is
the only name you've supplied, you claim it's not you, but you don't give
any other clues beyond, "I have a patent" under "some name."

You claimed that I didn't graduate from college with a hard science
discipline, which I would need to be a patent agent (attorney requires a
JD), then when I tell you I did, you then claim that that is supposedly
qualification for being a patent attorney (which it isn't, as I've said).

You claim that being a patent agent (or patent attorney) is a boring job,
and this is supposedly from your "observations" of one you supposedly dealt
with at some point about some patent.

Then, you claim that either I am Harry or I am "most likely a liar if the
order of Harry," which is barely English.

So, you're right. I'm not your type, because that would imply that I'm
brainless, which it seems to me is the only kind of woman you could possibly
stand.

Please feel free to stop communicating with me whenever you're ready!

Love ya and happy holidays!

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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:46 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
I see from your statement, that if you did graduate college, it
was not in
the hard science disciplines.

I see you're mistaken. I was a double major... biology and
English lit. The
former is one of the requirements for being a patent attorney.

I also see that you have no logical argument, thus your pathetic
attempt to
put me down.

Man up Bill.


You said nothing about degrees. So a patent attorney needs only
a biology degree?


You need to have a bs in order to become a patent agent. Biology
qualifies. There are very specific requirements. I also have a
JD/MBA also if that makes you feel better. Thus, I'm a patent
attorney, not just an agent. The pass rate for the exam is about
40%.

Here's a link that'll boil it down for you in steps even you can
comprehend..

http://inventors.about.com/od/patent...t_Attorney.htm

I was category A with a bio degree.

http://patbar.com/FAQ-patent-bar-exam.shtml#data-18

--
Nom=de=Plume

When I was dealing with the patent attorney for my patent, I came
to the conclusion that patent attorney has to be one of the most
boring, least mentally stimulating endeavors a JD can get involved
in.
Do you really believe she has a JD?
Nope. Do not believe she sells high end clothes. May not even be a
she.

A jealous ass who cannot abide a debate adversary's personal success.

Most of these dweebs can't deal with the fact that Harry does well,
I'm an employer or you have a JD and sell high end clothes.

It makes 'em crazy like a drowning swimmer. They'll use anything
within their grasp to keep their noses above the surface.


This is Usenet, full of exaggerations and outright lies.


That's certainly true. Bill is welcome to call me a liar if he thinks
that'll help his self-esteem.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Nothing to do with my self esteem.


You have some? Good for you!!

--
Nom=de=Plume


Damn, I think I am going to stop responding to you. Not only are you
stupid, can not comprehend what you read, and most likely a liar if the
order of Harry, you are infatuated with me. And you are not my type.


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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:58:46 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Rob" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
I see from your statement, that if you did graduate college,
it was not in
the hard science disciplines.

I see you're mistaken. I was a double major... biology and
English lit. The
former is one of the requirements for being a patent attorney.

I also see that you have no logical argument, thus your
pathetic attempt to
put me down.

Man up Bill.


You said nothing about degrees. So a patent attorney needs only
a biology degree?


You need to have a bs in order to become a patent agent. Biology
qualifies. There are very specific requirements. I also have a
JD/MBA also if that makes you feel better. Thus, I'm a patent
attorney, not just an agent. The pass rate for the exam is about
40%.

Here's a link that'll boil it down for you in steps even you can
comprehend..

http://inventors.about.com/od/patent...t_Attorney.htm

I was category A with a bio degree.

http://patbar.com/FAQ-patent-bar-exam.shtml#data-18

--
Nom=de=Plume

When I was dealing with the patent attorney for my patent, I came
to the conclusion that patent attorney has to be one of the most
boring, least mentally stimulating endeavors a JD can get involved
in.
Do you really believe she has a JD?
Nope. Do not believe she sells high end clothes. May not even be a
she.

A jealous ass who cannot abide a debate adversary's personal success.

Most of these dweebs can't deal with the fact that Harry does well,
I'm an employer or you have a JD and sell high end clothes.

It makes 'em crazy like a drowning swimmer. They'll use anything
within their grasp to keep their noses above the surface.


This is Usenet, full of exaggerations and outright lies.


That's certainly true. Bill is welcome to call me a liar if he thinks
that'll help his self-esteem.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Nothing to do with my self esteem.

You have some? Good for you!!

--
Nom=de=Plume


Damn, I think I am going to stop responding to you. Not only are you
stupid, can not comprehend what you read, and most likely a liar if the
order of Harry, you are infatuated with me. And you are not my type.


Well Bill, you're the one who seems to have a problem communicating.

You claim that I'm not a patent attorney, then show you how simple it is to
search for patents on PTO site, find something under Bill McKee, which is
the only name you've supplied, you claim it's not you, but you don't give
any other clues beyond, "I have a patent" under "some name."

You claimed that I didn't graduate from college with a hard science
discipline, which I would need to be a patent agent (attorney requires a
JD), then when I tell you I did, you then claim that that is supposedly
qualification for being a patent attorney (which it isn't, as I've said).

You claim that being a patent agent (or patent attorney) is a boring job,
and this is supposedly from your "observations" of one you supposedly dealt
with at some point about some patent.

Then, you claim that either I am Harry or I am "most likely a liar if the
order of Harry," which is barely English.

So, you're right. I'm not your type, because that would imply that I'm
brainless, which it seems to me is the only kind of woman you could possibly
stand.

Please feel free to stop communicating with me whenever you're ready!

Love ya and happy holidays!



They can't rip you from your ability to parse words and articulate
ideas clearly so they go after your bona fides by claiming you're a
liar.

The finely honed debate skills of simpletons. It's as I said, they'll
scramble for any outcropping for fear of drowning at the hands of a
perceived liberal.

Bill is gasping for air.
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