On Dec 18, 1:55*pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
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When you build on the cliffs overlooking the ocean.
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleVie...26/ArticleID/4....

Unfortunate for these people, but your claim that it isn't global
warming
caused (or the opposite argument that it is) is meaningless, since any
one
event isn't proof or disproof of the fact of adverse climate change
caused
by humans.

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Nom=de=Plume

It is building within 100' of a the edge of sandstone cliffs. With a
pounding sea always there. About 10 years. maybe 20, they lost a whole set
of homes in to the sea just up the road.

But how does this suggest that global warming did or did not have
anything to do with it?

Build on sandstone cliffs at the oceans edge? *And you claim to be a soils
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I didn't comment on the viability of building on sandstone cliffs. I
want to know why you think that global warming couldn't have had
anything to do with this. Care to answer?

On Dec 18, 1:54*pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
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When you build on the cliffs overlooking the ocean.
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleVie...26/ArticleID/4....

Unfortunate for these people, but your claim that it isn't global
warming caused (or the opposite argument that it is) is meaningless,
since any one event isn't proof or disproof of the fact of adverse
climate change caused by humans.

--
Nom=de=Plume

It is building within 100' of a the edge of sandstone cliffs. *With a
pounding sea always there. *About 10 years. maybe 20, they lost a whole
set of homes in to the sea just up the road.

And your point? Are you making an argument for or against adverse climate
change?

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Nom=de=Plume

The climate is always changing. *10,000 years ago, Tahoe area was deep in an
ice age. *Glaciers, etc. *50,000 years ago, was probably a warm swamp.. *The
fact is the climate is always in flux. *But those like Al Gore, etc. are
using that change to make more millions off the people they claim to help..
Selling Carbon Credits? *Man being the cause of the major climate change is
lunacy.- Hide quoted text -

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If it is "lunacy", Bill, please show me what evidence you have that
man has had nothing to do with THIS CURRENT warming period.

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On Dec 18, 1:54 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
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When you build on the cliffs overlooking the ocean.
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleVie...26/ArticleID/4...

Unfortunate for these people, but your claim that it isn't global
warming caused (or the opposite argument that it is) is meaningless,
since any one event isn't proof or disproof of the fact of adverse
climate change caused by humans.

--
Nom=de=Plume

It is building within 100' of a the edge of sandstone cliffs. With a
pounding sea always there. About 10 years. maybe 20, they lost a whole
set of homes in to the sea just up the road.

And your point? Are you making an argument for or against adverse
climate
change?

--
Nom=de=Plume

The climate is always changing. 10,000 years ago, Tahoe area was deep in
an
ice age. Glaciers, etc. 50,000 years ago, was probably a warm swamp. The
fact is the climate is always in flux. But those like Al Gore, etc. are
using that change to make more millions off the people they claim to help.
Selling Carbon Credits? Man being the cause of the major climate change is
lunacy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If it is "lunacy", Bill, please show me what evidence you have that
man has had nothing to do with THIS CURRENT warming period.

Reply:
You show me where man is the cause.

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On Dec 18, 1:55 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"Loogypicker" wrote in message

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On Dec 18, 1:09 am, "Bill McKee" wrote:





"nom=de=plume" wrote in message

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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When you build on the cliffs overlooking the ocean.
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleVie...26/ArticleID/4...

Unfortunate for these people, but your claim that it isn't global
warming
caused (or the opposite argument that it is) is meaningless, since any
one
event isn't proof or disproof of the fact of adverse climate change
caused
by humans.

--
Nom=de=Plume

It is building within 100' of a the edge of sandstone cliffs. With a
pounding sea always there. About 10 years. maybe 20, they lost a whole
set
of homes in to the sea just up the road.

But how does this suggest that global warming did or did not have
anything to do with it?

Build on sandstone cliffs at the oceans edge? And you claim to be a soils
engineer type.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I didn't comment on the viability of building on sandstone cliffs. I
want to know why you think that global warming couldn't have had
anything to do with this. Care to answer?

Reply:
Nope. The question is too stupid after your first sentence.

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When you build on the cliffs overlooking the ocean.
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleVie...x/Default.aspx

Unfortunate for these people, but your claim that it isn't global
warming caused (or the opposite argument that it is) is meaningless,
since any one event isn't proof or disproof of the fact of adverse
climate change caused by humans.

--
Nom=de=Plume


It is building within 100' of a the edge of sandstone cliffs. With a
pounding sea always there. About 10 years. maybe 20, they lost a whole
set of homes in to the sea just up the road.



And your point? Are you making an argument for or against adverse climate
change?

--
Nom=de=Plume


The climate is always changing. 10,000 years ago, Tahoe area was deep in
an ice age. Glaciers, etc. 50,000 years ago, was probably a warm swamp.
The fact is the climate is always in flux. But those like Al Gore, etc.
are using that change to make more millions off the people they claim to
help. Selling Carbon Credits? Man being the cause of the major climate
change is lunacy.



That's right. The climate is always in flux. Unfortunately, we've increased
that naturally occuring variability due to our pollution. I know it's
difficult to accept, but it's a fact. Things are going to continue to get
much worse, and the only thing we can do is to drastically cut back and wait
for things to settle out.

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Nom=de=Plume

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On Dec 18, 1:54 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
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When you build on the cliffs overlooking the ocean.
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleVie...26/ArticleID/4...

Unfortunate for these people, but your claim that it isn't global
warming caused (or the opposite argument that it is) is meaningless,
since any one event isn't proof or disproof of the fact of adverse
climate change caused by humans.

--
Nom=de=Plume

It is building within 100' of a the edge of sandstone cliffs. With a
pounding sea always there. About 10 years. maybe 20, they lost a whole
set of homes in to the sea just up the road.

And your point? Are you making an argument for or against adverse
climate
change?

--
Nom=de=Plume

The climate is always changing. 10,000 years ago, Tahoe area was deep in
an
ice age. Glaciers, etc. 50,000 years ago, was probably a warm swamp. The
fact is the climate is always in flux. But those like Al Gore, etc. are
using that change to make more millions off the people they claim to
help.
Selling Carbon Credits? Man being the cause of the major climate change
is
lunacy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If it is "lunacy", Bill, please show me what evidence you have that
man has had nothing to do with THIS CURRENT warming period.

Reply:
You show me where man is the cause.



That's been shown over and over. Why don't you just answer his question.

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Nom=de=Plume

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On Dec 18, 1:09 am, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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When you build on the cliffs overlooking the ocean.
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleVie...26/ArticleID/4...

Unfortunate for these people, but your claim that it isn't global
warming
caused (or the opposite argument that it is) is meaningless, since any
one
event isn't proof or disproof of the fact of adverse climate change
caused
by humans.

--
Nom=de=Plume

It is building within 100' of a the edge of sandstone cliffs. With a
pounding sea always there. About 10 years. maybe 20, they lost a whole
set
of homes in to the sea just up the road.

But how does this suggest that global warming did or did not have
anything to do with it?

Build on sandstone cliffs at the oceans edge? And you claim to be a soils
engineer type.

It doesn't suggest it nor does it disprove it. One incident can't be used
either for or against adverse, human-caused climate change.

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Nom=de=Plume

Bill McKee wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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When you build on the cliffs overlooking the ocean.
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleVie...x/Default.aspx
Unfortunate for these people, but your claim that it isn't global
warming caused (or the opposite argument that it is) is meaningless,
since any one event isn't proof or disproof of the fact of adverse
climate change caused by humans.

--
Nom=de=Plume

It is building within 100' of a the edge of sandstone cliffs. With a
pounding sea always there. About 10 years. maybe 20, they lost a whole
set of homes in to the sea just up the road.


And your point? Are you making an argument for or against adverse climate
change?

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Nom=de=Plume
Bill doesn't care...he just wants to start an argument.


Don, Don, Don. You are flaunting your stupidity again.


He does that a lot.

Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 18, 1:54 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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When you build on the cliffs overlooking the ocean.
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleVie...26/ArticleID/4...
Unfortunate for these people, but your claim that it isn't global
warming caused (or the opposite argument that it is) is meaningless,
since any one event isn't proof or disproof of the fact of adverse
climate change caused by humans.
--
Nom=de=Plume
It is building within 100' of a the edge of sandstone cliffs. With a
pounding sea always there. About 10 years. maybe 20, they lost a whole
set of homes in to the sea just up the road.
And your point? Are you making an argument for or against adverse climate
change?
--
Nom=de=Plume
The climate is always changing. 10,000 years ago, Tahoe area was deep in an
ice age. Glaciers, etc. 50,000 years ago, was probably a warm swamp. The
fact is the climate is always in flux. But those like Al Gore, etc. are
using that change to make more millions off the people they claim to help.
Selling Carbon Credits? Man being the cause of the major climate change is
lunacy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If it is "lunacy", Bill, please show me what evidence you have that
man has had nothing to do with THIS CURRENT warming period.

Please show evidence that you haven't been diddleing around with Tiger's
castoffs.

On Dec 18, 2:26*pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"Loogypicker" wrote in message

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On Dec 18, 1:55 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:





"Loogypicker" wrote in message

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On Dec 18, 1:09 am, "Bill McKee" wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
om...
When you build on the cliffs overlooking the ocean.
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleVie...26/ArticleID/4...

Unfortunate for these people, but your claim that it isn't global
warming
caused (or the opposite argument that it is) is meaningless, since any
one
event isn't proof or disproof of the fact of adverse climate change
caused
by humans.

--
Nom=de=Plume

It is building within 100' of a the edge of sandstone cliffs. With a
pounding sea always there. About 10 years. maybe 20, they lost a whole
set
of homes in to the sea just up the road.

But how does this suggest that global warming did or did not have
anything to do with it?

Build on sandstone cliffs at the oceans edge? And you claim to be a soils
engineer type.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I didn't comment on the viability of building on sandstone cliffs. I
want to know why you think that global warming couldn't have had
anything to do with this. Care to answer?

Reply:
Nope. *The question is too stupid after your first sentence.- Hide quoted text -

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Why? Just because something (reason A) had an effect, doesn't mean
that something else (reason B) didn't have ANY effect.

Reason A = building on poor subsoils
Reason B = global warming.