In article ,
om says...

...is it worth $29.95? Anyone use it? Supposedly it's good for
amateurs like me.

I would never use it. When I get clogged up I do a format and rebuild.
Over the years I have probably averaged twice a year.

On Dec 16, 5:44*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...



...is it worth $29.95? Anyone use it? Supposedly it's good for
amateurs like me.

I would never use it. When I get clogged up I do a format and rebuild.
Over the years I have probably averaged twice a year.

I use it all of the time. Autodesk products such as Autocad and Revit
Structure dump a LOT of crap in the registry. Registry Mechanic cleans
it up in a few minutes. Adobe Acrobat does the same thing, by the way.

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:22:43 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:44:31 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

...is it worth $29.95? Anyone use it? Supposedly it's good for
amateurs like me.

I would never use it. When I get clogged up I do a format and rebuild.
Over the years I have probably averaged twice a year.

As infinitely painful as it is.... this is the best advice.

I've never had to do a reformat just to unclog a computer. Maybe I've
just been lucky.
--

John H

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:00:54 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:38:40 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:22:43 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:44:31 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

...is it worth $29.95? Anyone use it? Supposedly it's good for
amateurs like me.

I would never use it. When I get clogged up I do a format and rebuild.
Over the years I have probably averaged twice a year.

As infinitely painful as it is.... this is the best advice.

I've never had to do a reformat just to unclog a computer. Maybe I've
just been lucky.

There is one ugly Trojan/worm/virus out there that will probably have
you reloading the system.
I got it opening an active x page on a web site about caster scooters.
McAfee was popping up warnings faster than the engine could handle
them, I suppose and something got through. I tried a half dozen
different scanners and removers for the various messages I was getting
but nothing stopped the root failure. This thing was grabbing anything
that made a call to change the registry or any other system
maintenance task and popping up a gray box message that was, itself
bogus. It wouldn't even run regedit in command line, safe mode. You
couldn't get to anything close to system restore. The desktop was
hijacked and said "your system is corrupted".
Real ugly stuff. I think they also sent a payload of other crap along
with the original virus.Every scanner I ran, found and said it removed
something but still no joy.
I finally just low leveled, repartitioned and reformatted the C:
drive.

I count myself among the lucky. I've not had a virus that I know of.
--

Have a Blessed Chrismahanukwanzakah and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:38:40 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:22:43 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:44:31 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

...is it worth $29.95? Anyone use it? Supposedly it's good for
amateurs like me.

I would never use it. When I get clogged up I do a format and rebuild.
Over the years I have probably averaged twice a year.

As infinitely painful as it is.... this is the best advice.

I've never had to do a reformat just to unclog a computer. Maybe I've
just been lucky.

There is one ugly Trojan/worm/virus out there that will probably have
you reloading the system.
I got it opening an active x page on a web site about caster scooters.
McAfee was popping up warnings faster than the engine could handle
them, I suppose and something got through. I tried a half dozen
different scanners and removers for the various messages I was getting
but nothing stopped the root failure. This thing was grabbing anything
that made a call to change the registry or any other system
maintenance task and popping up a gray box message that was, itself
bogus. It wouldn't even run regedit in command line, safe mode. You
couldn't get to anything close to system restore. The desktop was
hijacked and said "your system is corrupted".
Real ugly stuff. I think they also sent a payload of other crap along
with the original virus.Every scanner I ran, found and said it removed
something but still no joy.
I finally just low leveled, repartitioned and reformatted the C:
drive.

Man, it's been a long time since I got something like that... Knock on
wood....

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:22:43 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:44:31 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

...is it worth $29.95? Anyone use it? Supposedly it's good for
amateurs like me.

I would never use it. When I get clogged up I do a format and rebuild.
Over the years I have probably averaged twice a year.

As infinitely painful as it is.... this is the best advice.

If you're a simple user like The Freak, I might agree. For those who
have lots of applications they use and would have to reinstall, it's a
bloody waste of time.

Registry Mechanic does a decent job. Vista and Win 7 both do a good
job of keeping the disc defragged.

On 12/17/09 11:45 AM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:22:43 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:44:31 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In ,
om says...

...is it worth $29.95? Anyone use it? Supposedly it's good for
amateurs like me.

I would never use it. When I get clogged up I do a format and rebuild.
Over the years I have probably averaged twice a year.

As infinitely painful as it is.... this is the best advice.

If you're a simple user like The Freak, I might agree. For those who
have lots of applications they use and would have to reinstall, it's a
bloody waste of time.

Registry Mechanic does a decent job. Vista and Win 7 both do a good
job of keeping the disc defragged.


Two of the aspects of Windozes I don't miss:

the registry
the need to defrag hard drives

There is no registry in the Apple OS, and it is pretty simple to remove
a program and all its pieces and parts. Also, the OS seems to keep the
drive(s) pretty much defragged on its own.

Backups and restores are much easier, too.

But I still like Windoze.

Harry wrote:
On 12/17/09 11:45 AM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:22:43 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:44:31 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In ,
om says...

...is it worth $29.95? Anyone use it? Supposedly it's good for
amateurs like me.

I would never use it. When I get clogged up I do a format and rebuild.
Over the years I have probably averaged twice a year.

As infinitely painful as it is.... this is the best advice.

If you're a simple user like The Freak, I might agree. For those who
have lots of applications they use and would have to reinstall, it's a
bloody waste of time.

Registry Mechanic does a decent job. Vista and Win 7 both do a good
job of keeping the disc defragged.


Two of the aspects of Windozes I don't miss:

the registry
the need to defrag hard drives

There is no registry in the Apple OS, and it is pretty simple to remove
a program and all its pieces and parts. Also, the OS seems to keep the
drive(s) pretty much defragged on its own.

Backups and restores are much easier, too.

But I still like Windoze.


I know I don't like Windoze Registry, and that is an integral aspect of
Windoze, but after singing the praise of Vista, I am too embarrassed to
say what i really think of Windoze. I have always hoped that people
will forget that I switched to a Mac after 6 months of pucking with Vista.

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:08:19 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:52:29 -0500, Harry
wrote:

On 12/17/09 11:45 AM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:22:43 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:44:31 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In ,
om says...

...is it worth $29.95? Anyone use it? Supposedly it's good for
amateurs like me.

I would never use it. When I get clogged up I do a format and rebuild.
Over the years I have probably averaged twice a year.

As infinitely painful as it is.... this is the best advice.

If you're a simple user like The Freak, I might agree. For those who
have lots of applications they use and would have to reinstall, it's a
bloody waste of time.

Registry Mechanic does a decent job. Vista and Win 7 both do a good
job of keeping the disc defragged.


Two of the aspects of Windozes I don't miss:

the registry
the need to defrag hard drives

There is no registry in the Apple OS, and it is pretty simple to remove
a program and all its pieces and parts. Also, the OS seems to keep the
drive(s) pretty much defragged on its own.

Backups and restores are much easier, too.

But I still like Windoze.

That's where I was headed with this.... defragging is a fragging waste
of time.... better spend wiping and re-installing.

You must have a very small number of apps. Defragging can be done
while sleeping on an XP or earlier machine. Vista and 7 take care of
it themselves.

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:47:54 -0800, jps wrote:



You must have a very small number of apps. Defragging can be done
while sleeping on an XP or earlier machine. Vista and 7 take care of
it themselves.

Haven't done that in a long time with my XP machines.
In the pre-XP days I would do a backup to tape, then restore instead
of defragging.
The tape was written and restored/reindexed with data contiguous and
ran in about 1/3 the time of a defrag.
I restore from image occasionally now, and I'm not sure if Ghost
re-indexes and shuffles the data back on the tracks more efficiently
than what they were. Might, since the restore is always considerably
faster than making the image.
Defrag head seeking is inefficient as hell.

--Vic