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think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds?


It doesn't have to. Each wheel is supporting about 1600 lbs.


I think a bottle jack would do just fine for his application. They are
pretty cheap and they don't take up much space. You just need to make
sure the base is stable before lifting anything.
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:59 -0500, Rob wrote:

Eddie wrote:
I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie


It can't hurt to keep then from developing a flat spot. They also sell
covers to keep the sun from deteriorating the rubber. I see RV with
these frequently.

A good floor jack and some stacked 4X4 wood blocks (or jack stands) will
do the job.

Rob

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie


Get the jack stands. They aren't that expensive, and are very adjustable. A
3 ton floor jack will be plenty to do the lifting you need to get the
jack-stands in place. Those aren't very expensive either. For the tires, get
a box of heavy duty contractors bags from Home Depot, and put them around
them. You'll find good uses for the rest of them in due time.

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Get the jack stands. They aren't that expensive, and are very adjustable.


I wouldn't trust jack stands for this. Yes, they will handle the load, but
for plain stability and safety, I'd crib.

But that's just me. I've never seen jack stands under a boat at a boat
yard, but I have seen lots of cribbing.

Stev


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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:59 -0500, Rob wrote:

Eddie wrote:
I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie


It can't hurt to keep then from developing a flat spot. They also sell
covers to keep the sun from deteriorating the rubber. I see RV with
these frequently.

A good floor jack and some stacked 4X4 wood blocks (or jack stands) will
do the job.

Rob

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie

What Wayne said and:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66725 and
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=38846



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"Eddie" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:59 -0500, Rob wrote:

Eddie wrote:
I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie


It can't hurt to keep then from developing a flat spot. They also sell
covers to keep the sun from deteriorating the rubber. I see RV with
these frequently.

A good floor jack and some stacked 4X4 wood blocks (or jack stands) will
do the job.

Rob

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie

What Wayne said and:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66725 and
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=38846


The big problem with those jackstands is they are not stable on black
top, they must be used on cement or similar or the edges can dig in and
spill over. This is much more dangerous in the summer months. REad up
before using them for anything you are going to be under or you don't
want to fall over.




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In article m,
says...

"Eddie" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:59 -0500, Rob wrote:

Eddie wrote:
I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and
ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat
and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie


It can't hurt to keep then from developing a flat spot. They also sell
covers to keep the sun from deteriorating the rubber. I see RV with
these frequently.

A good floor jack and some stacked 4X4 wood blocks (or jack stands)
will
do the job.

Rob
Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie

What Wayne said and:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66725
and
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=38846


The big problem with those jackstands is they are not stable on black
top, they must be used on cement or similar or the edges can dig in and
spill over. This is much more dangerous in the summer months. REad up
before using them for anything you are going to be under or you don't
want to fall over.


Yeah, that would suck - saved the springs and tires but the boat sank in the
parking lot!
Eddie wrote that it'll be stored on a concrete pad.
Could probably get some weight off by lowering the tongue (trailer jack),
placing concrete blocks/boards/etc just behind the rear spring hangers and
then raising the tongue.


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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:59 -0500, wrote:


Eddie wrote:

I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie


It can't hurt to keep then from developing a flat spot. They also sell
covers to keep the sun from deteriorating the rubber. I see RV with
these frequently.

A good floor jack and some stacked 4X4 wood blocks (or jack stands) will
do the job.

Rob

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie

What Wayne said and:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66725 and
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=38846

The big problem with those jackstands is they are not stable on black
top, they must be used on cement or similar or the edges can dig in and
spill over. This is much more dangerous in the summer months. REad up
before using them for anything you are going to be under or you don't
want to fall over.



A 3' X 3' piece of 3/4" CDX will help with that.

Rob
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:34:39 -0800, Eddie
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:55:59 -0500, Rob wrote:

Eddie wrote:
I have a Regal, dry weight around 8,200lbs. It sits on a three-axle
trailer, weight approx. 1,500 lbs. I have six so-so tires and will
have the boat sitting on a cement pad for the next 6 mo. or so doing
some major and minor work on it. I'm thinking that with all that
weight on the tires that if they lose air I may have a hard time
putting air in them where it sits. I suppose I could call AAA and ask
for a truck that has an air compressor. So my question is, could I
put a couple of floor jacks to help support the weight of the boat and
trailer? I've seen where cars that are stored for a long time have
something to remove the weight under the car. Has anyone done this?
I'm thinking that I'd need minimum four with each having a 2-ton
capacity. I'd have to figure out a way to lift the boat up to slide
the jacks under it.
Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Eddie


It can't hurt to keep then from developing a flat spot. They also sell
covers to keep the sun from deteriorating the rubber. I see RV with
these frequently.

A good floor jack and some stacked 4X4 wood blocks (or jack stands) will
do the job.

Rob

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie


A regular 2 1/2 ton cheapo floor jack will have no problem lifting a
corner. You could even pick up a cheap bottle jack to lift an axle.
You just want the weight off the tires. Won't take much.
Might be cheaper to rent a jack if you have no other use for it.
You just want to lift enough to get a stand under the axle.
Better jack and put the stand at the right spot too, or you could do
damage.
If you have 4'x4's laying around, use them. Good jackstands are
better, since they have a smaller footprint and can adjust to an inch
or two instead of 4. Likely won't have to lift as high.
Personally, I wouldn't worry about the tires getting a flat spot in
that short a time. You could pick up a 12v compressor to top them off
if they start losing air. I don't like them, but they work. Slow.
20 bucks or so. Easiest path I see. Or a portable air tank you fill
up at a gas station if you can't get your car near the trailer to use
the 12v compressor.
Don't know what you mean by "so-so" tires.
To me, tires are either "good" or should be replaced.
Not the place to cut corners.

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"Eddie" wrote

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie


A 5 ton jack is a small jack. I have two twelves. And many smaller ones.
We used four 100 ton for derrick leveling, all hooked together so they all
matched level.

I'd crib it with GOOD wood for stability in case of bumping or shifting, and
I'd also check the pressure weekly, and if you have variance, pull the tire
and get it fixed so it doesn't go out on you on the freeway. Truck places
usually have hardwood cribbing. Also check the bearings while you have it
up in the air. Tire covers can be made of plywood. Not snazzy, but
functional, and you can paint them, and they'll then look snazzy. Spray
paint some gang **** on there before someone else does, tho.

Steve


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"Eddie" wrote

Rob, think there's a floor jack out there that will lift 10k pounds? I
know the pros have 'em, but I was thinking of either borrowing from a
neighbor, or buying one at Kragen's.
Wonder which is cheaper to buy, 4X4 wood or jack stands?
As for the tire covers, good idea, I have them for my TT. Online from
WalMart. Will get some as soon as I find out the tire size.
Thanks!
Eddie


A 5 ton jack is a small jack. I have two twelves. And many smaller ones.
We used four 100 ton for derrick leveling, all hooked together so they all
matched level.

I'd crib it with GOOD wood for stability in case of bumping or shifting, and
I'd also check the pressure weekly, and if you have variance, pull the tire
and get it fixed so it doesn't go out on you on the freeway. Truck places
usually have hardwood cribbing. Also check the bearings while you have it
up in the air. Tire covers can be made of plywood. Not snazzy, but
functional, and you can paint them, and they'll then look snazzy. Spray
paint some gang **** on there before someone else does, tho.

Steve

LOL.

Here's just a sample of how pretty plywood can be made to look.

http://www.co.washington.or.us/sheri...s/ganggraf.jpg
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