We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already
39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets
that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't
snow.

On Dec 5, 4:15*pm, Loogypicker wrote:
We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already
39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets
that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't
snow.

It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind,
and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about
40-45 and rain, *UGH!*

On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:04:24 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 5, 4:15Â*pm, Loogypicker wrote:
We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already
39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets
that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't
snow.

It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind,
and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about
40-45 and rain, *UGH!*

I'm thinking about getting a heater for the garage - just to take the
chill off while doing car work.
Any suggestions?
Only have 15 amp going there, and I don't want to beef that up now,
because I could run into trouble - old conduit under a new sidewalk.
Might have to dig the old stuff out if the wires won't pull through.
Running a natural gas line out there for a wall unit will be a big job
too.
I was thinking some kind of gasoline heat exchanger burning outside
with the heat vented to the garage. I'd have to figure out a way to
make a vent in the garage wall or door that wouldn't look too bad.
Probably can't work that out. Cosmetics.
When I did one painting job in an unheated repair garage with my
brother we had a couple gas heaters going. Memory is dim, but they
were salamander looking things, and put out good heat. Problem was we
about died breathing that crap.
Gave you a sore throat right away.
Anyway, I just picked up a water pump and alt for my '93 Grand Am and
have to replace them so I can dump my '90 Corsica, so I was thinking a
heater would be nice.
Used to do stuff like replace a starter on the street, laying on a
piece of cardboard, snow blowing on me, wind howling, etc.
Didn't think twice. Now here I am wanting my garage heated.
Okay, think I'll just dress real heavy in layers, and come in the
house to warm up once in a while. That'll work.
It was good to thrash that out and get it solved.
Thanks guys.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:04:24 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 5, 4:15 pm, Loogypicker wrote:
We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already
39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets
that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't
snow.

It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind,
and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about
40-45 and rain, *UGH!*

I'm thinking about getting a heater for the garage - just to take the
chill off while doing car work.
Any suggestions?
Only have 15 amp going there, and I don't want to beef that up now,
because I could run into trouble - old conduit under a new sidewalk.
Might have to dig the old stuff out if the wires won't pull through.
Running a natural gas line out there for a wall unit will be a big job
too.
I was thinking some kind of gasoline heat exchanger burning outside
with the heat vented to the garage. I'd have to figure out a way to
make a vent in the garage wall or door that wouldn't look too bad.
Probably can't work that out. Cosmetics.
When I did one painting job in an unheated repair garage with my
brother we had a couple gas heaters going. Memory is dim, but they
were salamander looking things, and put out good heat. Problem was we
about died breathing that crap.
Gave you a sore throat right away.
Anyway, I just picked up a water pump and alt for my '93 Grand Am and
have to replace them so I can dump my '90 Corsica, so I was thinking a
heater would be nice.
Used to do stuff like replace a starter on the street, laying on a
piece of cardboard, snow blowing on me, wind howling, etc.
Didn't think twice. Now here I am wanting my garage heated.
Okay, think I'll just dress real heavy in layers, and come in the
house to warm up once in a while. That'll work.
It was good to thrash that out and get it solved.
Thanks guys.

--Vic

My brothers-in-law who do drywall work always had the salamander heaters. I
remember borrowing one way back in the late '70s for my basement.
Most people around here who live outside the city and have detatched garages
put in some type of wood burning stove.

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:04:24 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


On Dec 5, 4:15 pm, wrote:

We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already
39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets
that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't
snow.

It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind,
and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about
40-45 and rain, *UGH!*

I'm thinking about getting a heater for the garage - just to take the
chill off while doing car work.
Any suggestions?
Only have 15 amp going there, and I don't want to beef that up now,
because I could run into trouble - old conduit under a new sidewalk.
Might have to dig the old stuff out if the wires won't pull through.
Running a natural gas line out there for a wall unit will be a big job
too.
I was thinking some kind of gasoline heat exchanger burning outside
with the heat vented to the garage. I'd have to figure out a way to
make a vent in the garage wall or door that wouldn't look too bad.
Probably can't work that out. Cosmetics.
When I did one painting job in an unheated repair garage with my
brother we had a couple gas heaters going. Memory is dim, but they
were salamander looking things, and put out good heat. Problem was we
about died breathing that crap.
Gave you a sore throat right away.
Anyway, I just picked up a water pump and alt for my '93 Grand Am and
have to replace them so I can dump my '90 Corsica, so I was thinking a
heater would be nice.
Used to do stuff like replace a starter on the street, laying on a
piece of cardboard, snow blowing on me, wind howling, etc.
Didn't think twice. Now here I am wanting my garage heated.
Okay, think I'll just dress real heavy in layers, and come in the
house to warm up once in a while. That'll work.
It was good to thrash that out and get it solved.
Thanks guys.

--Vic


Newer kerosene heaters are very good for you application. The
tube-shaped "salamanders" are better suited for more open environments.

Rob

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:06:34 -0500, Rob wrote:



Newer kerosene heaters are very good for you application. The
tube-shaped "salamanders" are better suited for more open environments.

I'll check into that. Last ones I've used didn't put out much heat,
but maybe a big one will help enough to make it worthwhile.

--Vic

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:35:09 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:06:34 -0500, Rob wrote:



Newer kerosene heaters are very good for you application. The
tube-shaped "salamanders" are better suited for more open environments.

I'll check into that. Last ones I've used didn't put out much heat, but
maybe a big one will help enough to make it worthwhile.

--Vic

They have propane space heaters, that will put out a fair deal of heat.
I wouldn't suggest them for use on a daily basis $$$, but for taking the
chill out on an occasional basis, they are considerably cleaner than most
space heaters.

In article ,
says...

Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:04:24 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


On Dec 5, 4:15 pm, wrote:

We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already
39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets
that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't
snow.

It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind,
and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about
40-45 and rain, *UGH!*

I'm thinking about getting a heater for the garage - just to take the
chill off while doing car work.
Any suggestions?
Only have 15 amp going there, and I don't want to beef that up now,
because I could run into trouble - old conduit under a new sidewalk.
Might have to dig the old stuff out if the wires won't pull through.
Running a natural gas line out there for a wall unit will be a big job
too.
I was thinking some kind of gasoline heat exchanger burning outside
with the heat vented to the garage. I'd have to figure out a way to
make a vent in the garage wall or door that wouldn't look too bad.
Probably can't work that out. Cosmetics.
When I did one painting job in an unheated repair garage with my
brother we had a couple gas heaters going. Memory is dim, but they
were salamander looking things, and put out good heat. Problem was we
about died breathing that crap.
Gave you a sore throat right away.
Anyway, I just picked up a water pump and alt for my '93 Grand Am and
have to replace them so I can dump my '90 Corsica, so I was thinking a
heater would be nice.
Used to do stuff like replace a starter on the street, laying on a
piece of cardboard, snow blowing on me, wind howling, etc.
Didn't think twice. Now here I am wanting my garage heated.
Okay, think I'll just dress real heavy in layers, and come in the
house to warm up once in a while. That'll work.
It was good to thrash that out and get it solved.
Thanks guys.

--Vic


Newer kerosene heaters are very good for you application. The
tube-shaped "salamanders" are better suited for more open environments.

Rob

Those Salamander types are good but they need to be used outside. I used
them in my barn for building a couple of times but you had to keep
enough air flow. If you start to feel buzzed or drunk, and you aren't
drinking beer, get out fast. I would start the things and leave the shop
to heat up and shut down the heater before I went in, open a window too.
Then I would go in and do the gluing and let it all cool. You had to
work fast as yo didn't want to reheat the stuff after you lay it down,
it will gas out and make air bubbles...

I would not use a salamander directly in an area I was working at the
time.

On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:23:23 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:04:24 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 5, 4:15*pm, Loogypicker wrote:
We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already
39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets
that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't
snow.

It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind,
and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about
40-45 and rain, *UGH!*

I'm thinking about getting a heater for the garage - just to take the
chill off while doing car work.
Any suggestions?
Only have 15 amp going there, and I don't want to beef that up now,
because I could run into trouble - old conduit under a new sidewalk.
Might have to dig the old stuff out if the wires won't pull through.
Running a natural gas line out there for a wall unit will be a big job
too.
I was thinking some kind of gasoline heat exchanger burning outside
with the heat vented to the garage. I'd have to figure out a way to
make a vent in the garage wall or door that wouldn't look too bad.
Probably can't work that out. Cosmetics.
When I did one painting job in an unheated repair garage with my
brother we had a couple gas heaters going. Memory is dim, but they
were salamander looking things, and put out good heat. Problem was we
about died breathing that crap.
Gave you a sore throat right away.
Anyway, I just picked up a water pump and alt for my '93 Grand Am and
have to replace them so I can dump my '90 Corsica, so I was thinking a
heater would be nice.
Used to do stuff like replace a starter on the street, laying on a
piece of cardboard, snow blowing on me, wind howling, etc.
Didn't think twice. Now here I am wanting my garage heated.
Okay, think I'll just dress real heavy in layers, and come in the
house to warm up once in a while. That'll work.
It was good to thrash that out and get it solved.
Thanks guys.

--Vic

Get yourself one of these.

http://tinyurl.com/ykxht2t

They're handy, can go to where you're working, and are big enough to
knock off the chill. We've got a smaller one we use in the camper
trailer and in the garage. It will heat the camper trailer nicely, but
I use it just to knock the chill in the garage. Since I'm usually
working in one place, it does well.
--

John H

On Dec 5, 9:23*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:04:24 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Dec 5, 4:15*pm, Loogypicker wrote:
We aren't used to a high of 45! The sun is setting, and it's already
39. Going to get to the 20's tonight. Good thing is that when it gets
that cold here once or so a year, it's clear so it usually doesn't
snow.

It was down to about 17 last night here in S. IL. good thing now wind,
and the night was clear.. in a couple days it will be a high of about
40-45 and rain, *UGH!*

I'm thinking about getting a heater for the garage - just to take the
chill off while doing car work.
Any suggestions?
Only have 15 amp going there, and I don't want to beef that up now,
because I could run into trouble - old conduit under a new sidewalk.
Might have to dig the old stuff out if the wires won't pull through.
Running a natural gas line out there for a wall unit will be a big job
too.
I was thinking some kind of gasoline heat exchanger burning outside
with the heat vented to the garage. *I'd have to figure out a way to
make a vent in the garage wall or door that wouldn't look too bad.
Probably can't work that out. *Cosmetics.
When I did one painting job in an unheated repair garage with my
brother we had a couple gas heaters going. *Memory is dim, but they
were salamander looking things, and put out good heat. *Problem was we
about died breathing that crap.
Gave you a sore throat right away.
Anyway, I just picked up a water pump and alt for my '93 Grand Am and
have to replace them so I can dump my '90 Corsica, so I was thinking a
heater would be nice.
Used to do stuff like replace a starter on the street, laying on a
piece of cardboard, snow blowing on me, wind howling, etc.
Didn't think twice. *Now here I am wanting my garage heated.
Okay, think I'll just dress real heavy in layers, and come in the
house to warm up once in a while. *That'll work.
It was good to thrash that out and get it solved.
Thanks guys.

--Vic

I've got one of those kerosene wick heaters for my garage. They do a
fantastic job, and also is nice when to power goes out in an ice
storm. I remember when I lived in western NY and had to change a water
pump on a very cold night in the dead of winter. My fingers didn't
have any skin on them because they'd stick to the frozen parts.