On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:20:34 -0700, Howard Brazee
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:47:47 -0600, Jerry Zinn
wrote:

The Democrat health care plan will provide for illegal
immigrants who break the law to invade the US, destroy your
property, rape your daughters, shoot your sons and steal your
money - twice.

What utter nonsense! The plan doesn't and it should.

It would be great if you had more compassion and less stupidity and
ignorance.


It doesn't. In fact it is quite a bit more restrictive than our
current "socialized" medical system of employer subsidized insurance
and hospitals that charge us enough to pay for the uninsured.

It's time to stop watching FOX and try to understand what a real
healthcare system is. You do realize we are 37th in the world in
providing healthcare. Or is that to difficult for you to accept as
with the earlier post you prefer to remain ignorant and hatefull.

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:17:09 -0800, "Bobster"
wrote:


"Jerry Zinn" wrote in message
news

The Democrat health care plan will provide for illegal
immigrants who break the law to invade the US, destroy your
property, rape your daughters, shoot your sons and steal your
money - twice.

What utter nonsense! The plan doesn't and it should.

The Democrat healthcare bill SHOULD provide for illegal aliens to invade the
US and rape your daughters?

Where's this "cliff" in Texas?

DCI

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:51:30 -0600, Jerry Zinn
wrote:

It doesn't. In fact it is quite a bit more restrictive than our
current "socialized" medical system of employer subsidized insurance
and hospitals that charge us enough to pay for the uninsured.

It's time to stop watching FOX and try to understand what a real
healthcare system is. You do realize we are 37th in the world in
providing healthcare. Or is that to difficult for you to accept as
with the earlier post you prefer to remain ignorant and hatefull.

For a particular value of "providing healthcare". One very big
criterion in that particular measurement is cost. It costs a lot of
money to have so many Cat-scan machines all over the country, for
instance. Lowering our score because we spend so much money on them
is of questionable value.

BTW, I don't watch FOX, and I want universal health care done right -
not the one that the medical industry is paying Congress for. I
suppose it is better than the status quo though.

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"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:10:17 -0700, Howard Brazee
wrote:


For a particular value of "providing healthcare". One very big
criterion in that particular measurement is cost. It costs a lot of
money to have so many Cat-scan machines all over the country, for
instance. Lowering our score because we spend so much money on them
is of questionable value.

BTW, I don't watch FOX, and I want universal health care done right -
not the one that the medical industry is paying Congress for. I
suppose it is better than the status quo though.

Sorry about the FOX reference.

You make a valid point about the Cat-scan equipment. I would add MRI
and shared high-value equipment among "competing" hospitals. For a
thoughtful exploration of healthcare refer to T. R. Reid's current
book."The Healing of America".

Second, Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, have been bought by
the medical industry especially Insurance and PARMA. That includes
the WH!

The thing to do immediately is to ****-can the current process and
move immediately to Single Payer -- Medicare for all. Even with its
problems the cost to correct Medicare is well worth it.

Jerry Zinn wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:10:17 -0700, Howard Brazee
wrote:

For a particular value of "providing healthcare". One very big
criterion in that particular measurement is cost. It costs a lot of
money to have so many Cat-scan machines all over the country, for
instance. Lowering our score because we spend so much money on them
is of questionable value.

BTW, I don't watch FOX, and I want universal health care done right -
not the one that the medical industry is paying Congress for. I
suppose it is better than the status quo though.

Sorry about the FOX reference.

You make a valid point about the Cat-scan equipment. I would add MRI
and shared high-value equipment among "competing" hospitals. For a
thoughtful exploration of healthcare refer to T. R. Reid's current
book."The Healing of America".

Second, Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, have been bought by
the medical industry especially Insurance and PARMA. That includes
the WH!

The thing to do immediately is to ****-can the current process and
move immediately to Single Payer -- Medicare for all. Even with its
problems the cost to correct Medicare is well worth it.


Unfortunately, this country doesn't have the balls to take such a
progressive step.


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