On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:44:32 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:01:16 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:


On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:08:39 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Speaking of electronics, have you been on 20 meters lately? The
sunspots are coming back. We are open to the North East for 2 or 3
hours every day, California and the PNW later in the afternoon. I've
actually made a few contacts on 15 meters lately.

Yeah - I've been listening - had a long path QSO with a JA on 30
meters which was a shocker. That's rather unusual.

I'm not sure its sunspots though - at least not at this stage of Cycle
24. I think what's happening is that we're seeing some flare activity
in the Helium I sphere which created a coronal hole - that would cause
an increase in magenetosphere energy here on Earth. As of today, none
of the major observatories have seen any sunspot activity at all. In
fact, the active/minor/severe potential at mid and high latitudes is
at .05/.01/.01 respectively. No spots. :)

I was reading today that the solar jet stream is finally moving into
position towards the sun's equator - two years or so later than it
normally does. That portends increased sunspot activity. How long
that lasts though is a question - it may be the last "umph" before it
enters another Maunder Minimum as some have speculated. The timing is
right.

http://dxinfo.ea3bhk.com/Propagation-Forecast/Yet-Another-New-Solar-Cycle-Sunspot-Group.html

Ok - you show me where they are that would create a solar flux of 75
with a corresponding A index of 9 and a K index of 2?. :)

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...024/latest.jpg

If they are talking about Region 1033, here's the forecast.

Updated 2009 Nov 21 2201 UTC

Joint USAF/NOAA Report of Solar and Geophysical Activity

SDF Number 325 Issued at 2200Z on 21 Nov 2009

Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 20/2100Z to
21/2100Z: Solar activity was very low. Region 1033 (N18E07) remains a
Bxo-beta region. No significant flares were observed during the past
24 hours. The SOHO/C2 images observed a slow moving (around 200 km/s)
Earth directed CME at 21/0755Z. EIT images also showed a wave pattern,
associated with the CME, located in the vicinity of a filament channel
around S40E30.

Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to remain very low
with a slight chance for a C-class flare.

Geophysical Activity Summary 20/2100Z to 21/2100Z: The geomagnetic
field was quiet to unsettled. Observations from the ACE spacecraft
indicate the continued influence of a recurrent coronal hole high
speed stream. Solar wind speed rose through the period from 430 -575
km/s with Bz fluctuations from -8 to +9 nT.

Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to be
predominantly quiet for the next three days (22-24 November).

That's hardly a good start for Cycle 24.

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:32 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:01:16 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Yeah - I've been listening - had a long path QSO with a JA on 30 meters
which was a shocker. That's rather unusual.

I'm not sure its sunspots though - at least not at this stage of Cycle
24. I think what's happening is that we're seeing some flare activity
in the Helium I sphere which created a coronal hole - that would cause
an increase in magenetosphere energy here on Earth. As of today, none
of the major observatories have seen any sunspot activity at all. In
fact, the active/minor/severe potential at mid and high latitudes is at
.05/.01/.01 respectively. No spots. :)

I was reading today that the solar jet stream is finally moving into
position towards the sun's equator - two years or so later than it
normally does. That portends increased sunspot activity. How long that
lasts though is a question - it may be the last "umph" before it enters
another Maunder Minimum as some have speculated. The timing is right.

Huh?? ;-)

Huh what? That the sun has a region of high speed gas they call a jet
stream at the 7Km depth level which causes sunspots or the Maunder
Minimum?

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:19:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:32 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:01:16 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Yeah - I've been listening - had a long path QSO with a JA on 30
meters which was a shocker. That's rather unusual.

I'm not sure its sunspots though - at least not at this stage of Cycle
24. I think what's happening is that we're seeing some flare activity
in the Helium I sphere which created a coronal hole - that would cause
an increase in magenetosphere energy here on Earth. As of today, none
of the major observatories have seen any sunspot activity at all. In
fact, the active/minor/severe potential at mid and high latitudes is
at .05/.01/.01 respectively. No spots. :)

I was reading today that the solar jet stream is finally moving into
position towards the sun's equator - two years or so later than it
normally does. That portends increased sunspot activity. How long
that lasts though is a question - it may be the last "umph" before it
enters another Maunder Minimum as some have speculated. The timing is
right.

Huh?? ;-)

Huh what? That the sun has a region of high speed gas they call a jet
stream at the 7Km depth level which causes sunspots or the Maunder
Minimum?

All of the above. Something about Hams. ;-)

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:22:26 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:19:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:32 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:01:16 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Yeah - I've been listening - had a long path QSO with a JA on 30
meters which was a shocker. That's rather unusual.

I'm not sure its sunspots though - at least not at this stage of Cycle
24. I think what's happening is that we're seeing some flare activity
in the Helium I sphere which created a coronal hole - that would cause
an increase in magenetosphere energy here on Earth. As of today, none
of the major observatories have seen any sunspot activity at all. In
fact, the active/minor/severe potential at mid and high latitudes is
at .05/.01/.01 respectively. No spots. :)

I was reading today that the solar jet stream is finally moving into
position towards the sun's equator - two years or so later than it
normally does. That portends increased sunspot activity. How long
that lasts though is a question - it may be the last "umph" before it
enters another Maunder Minimum as some have speculated. The timing is
right.

Huh?? ;-)

Huh what? That the sun has a region of high speed gas they call a jet
stream at the 7Km depth level which causes sunspots or the Maunder
Minimum?

All of the above. Something about Hams. ;-)

ROFTL!!!

"I'm not a solar scientist nor do I play one on TV..."

Having followed this for years, you do start to pick up on things here
and there. Recently, there has been some great solar space science
done at diifferent wavelengths in the past ten or so years which has
really powered up Earth weather science and some very interesting
correlations with the decadal and multidecadal ocean oscillations.

Live long enough, you'll pick up stuff if you're scientifically
oriented. :)

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:20:50 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:22:26 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:19:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:10:32 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:01:16 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Yeah - I've been listening - had a long path QSO with a JA on 30
meters which was a shocker. That's rather unusual.

I'm not sure its sunspots though - at least not at this stage of Cycle
24. I think what's happening is that we're seeing some flare activity
in the Helium I sphere which created a coronal hole - that would cause
an increase in magenetosphere energy here on Earth. As of today, none
of the major observatories have seen any sunspot activity at all. In
fact, the active/minor/severe potential at mid and high latitudes is
at .05/.01/.01 respectively. No spots. :)

I was reading today that the solar jet stream is finally moving into
position towards the sun's equator - two years or so later than it
normally does. That portends increased sunspot activity. How long
that lasts though is a question - it may be the last "umph" before it
enters another Maunder Minimum as some have speculated. The timing is
right.

Huh?? ;-)

Huh what? That the sun has a region of high speed gas they call a jet
stream at the 7Km depth level which causes sunspots or the Maunder
Minimum?

All of the above. Something about Hams. ;-)

ROFTL!!!

"I'm not a solar scientist nor do I play one on TV..."

Having followed this for years, you do start to pick up on things here
and there. Recently, there has been some great solar space science
done at diifferent wavelengths in the past ten or so years which has
really powered up Earth weather science and some very interesting
correlations with the decadal and multidecadal ocean oscillations.

Live long enough, you'll pick up stuff if you're scientifically
oriented. :)

Your knowledge of things scientific would be much better demonstrated
if you simply stated, "I also believe everything Al Gore said."
--

John H

On 11/22/09 1:17 AM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:44:32 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:01:16 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:


On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:08:39 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Speaking of electronics, have you been on 20 meters lately? The
sunspots are coming back. We are open to the North East for 2 or 3
hours every day, California and the PNW later in the afternoon. I've
actually made a few contacts on 15 meters lately.

Yeah - I've been listening - had a long path QSO with a JA on 30
meters which was a shocker. That's rather unusual.

I'm not sure its sunspots though - at least not at this stage of Cycle
24. I think what's happening is that we're seeing some flare activity
in the Helium I sphere which created a coronal hole - that would cause
an increase in magenetosphere energy here on Earth. As of today, none
of the major observatories have seen any sunspot activity at all. In
fact, the active/minor/severe potential at mid and high latitudes is
at .05/.01/.01 respectively. No spots. :)

I was reading today that the solar jet stream is finally moving into
position towards the sun's equator - two years or so later than it
normally does. That portends increased sunspot activity. How long
that lasts though is a question - it may be the last "umph" before it
enters another Maunder Minimum as some have speculated. The timing is
right.

http://dxinfo.ea3bhk.com/Propagation-Forecast/Yet-Another-New-Solar-Cycle-Sunspot-Group.html

Ok - you show me where they are that would create a solar flux of 75
with a corresponding A index of 9 and a K index of 2?. :)

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...024/latest.jpg

If they are talking about Region 1033, here's the forecast.

Updated 2009 Nov 21 2201 UTC

Joint USAF/NOAA Report of Solar and Geophysical Activity

SDF Number 325 Issued at 2200Z on 21 Nov 2009

Analysis of Solar Active Regions and Activity from 20/2100Z to
21/2100Z: Solar activity was very low. Region 1033 (N18E07) remains a
Bxo-beta region. No significant flares were observed during the past
24 hours. The SOHO/C2 images observed a slow moving (around 200 km/s)
Earth directed CME at 21/0755Z. EIT images also showed a wave pattern,
associated with the CME, located in the vicinity of a filament channel
around S40E30.

Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to remain very low
with a slight chance for a C-class flare.

Geophysical Activity Summary 20/2100Z to 21/2100Z: The geomagnetic
field was quiet to unsettled. Observations from the ACE spacecraft
indicate the continued influence of a recurrent coronal hole high
speed stream. Solar wind speed rose through the period from 430 -575
km/s with Bz fluctuations from -8 to +9 nT.

Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to be
predominantly quiet for the next three days (22-24 November).

That's hardly a good start for Cycle 24.


SW Tom-Tom's been playing with his flux capacitor...again.



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always, have a nice, simple-minded day.

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:17:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

That's hardly a good start for Cycle 24.

We'll see. All I know is that propagation has improved significantly
from where it was 6 months ago and the SFI numbers seem to support
that conclusion.

H the K wrote:
On 11/22/09 1:17 AM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

That's hardly a good start for Cycle 24.


SW Tom-Tom's been playing with his flux capacitor...again.




It is good to see that Mr Francis is resisting the desperate attempts of
Mr Krause to engage him.

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:36:01 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:17:38 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

That's hardly a good start for Cycle 24.

We'll see. All I know is that propagation has improved significantly
from where it was 6 months ago and the SFI numbers seem to support
that conclusion.

Wellllll......... :)

Granted, long path on 30 meters is a good start for sure - I haven't
seen that happen since they opened up the band.

This is a great program, by the way, for spotting band openings.

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/propview/

And the best part is IT'S FREE!!!

Free's for me. :)

On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:22:51 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

This is a great program, by the way, for spotting band openings.

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/propview/

And the best part is IT'S FREE!!!

Free's for me. :)

Thanks. As we used to say in NY, free is a VERY good price. -)