[jps]

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:31:32 -0500, H the K
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On 11/20/09 1:19 PM, wrote:

So, I take it that you decline to submit evidential material to
confirm his role as a community organizer?


Jesus can be whatever you want..., just as "the bible" can prove or
disprove any belief you have.

As an example, to me, if he existed at all, Jesus was a pretty cool
dude
with some socially acceptable ideas about his fellow man who spent
his
life preaching his vision of Judaism to Jews in the general area in
which he supposedly lived, and who had no idea or desire to convert
Jews
or pagans to a new religion. As with every other religion,
Christianity
is a creation of man.

If Jesus was a pretty cool dude, then he's so simply because you've
created Him that way in your own mind?


Can't speak for Harry, but He was a "cool dude" because of his
message
of
peace, acceptance, and healing.

His message like this?

NAS Mark 9:19 And He *answered them and *said, "O unbelieving
generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up with
you? Bring him to Me!"


As I said... out of context. You're starting to sound silly. If you
don't
like Jesus' message, why not just say so.

You don't seem to know what His message is. And I'm certain that you
are unable to articulate what the context of Mark 9:19 is.


I'm sure you're able to tell us. In any case, this has nothing to do with
the vitriol from the right. Or, maybe it does.

Hopefully you're not ready to venture into the ignoble domain of the
circumstantial ad hominem. Few go there and return to the land of
reason.


Not sure what you're talking about. It's a fact that what I said was
accurate about the right. Don't you remember Rudy's little convention
speech.

Circumstantial ad hominem?

As if he hasn't provided enough direct proof of his fundy idiocy?

I know, we can figure it out by having a bible quoting contest!

[Candy Man]

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:31:32 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/20/09 1:19 PM, wrote:

So, I take it that you decline to submit evidential material to
confirm his role as a community organizer?


Jesus can be whatever you want..., just as "the bible" can prove
or
disprove any belief you have.

As an example, to me, if he existed at all, Jesus was a pretty
cool
dude
with some socially acceptable ideas about his fellow man who spent
his
life preaching his vision of Judaism to Jews in the general area
in
which he supposedly lived, and who had no idea or desire to
convert
Jews
or pagans to a new religion. As with every other religion,
Christianity
is a creation of man.

If Jesus was a pretty cool dude, then he's so simply because
you've
created Him that way in your own mind?


Can't speak for Harry, but He was a "cool dude" because of his
message
of
peace, acceptance, and healing.

His message like this?

NAS Mark 9:19 And He *answered them and *said, "O unbelieving
generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up
with
you? Bring him to Me!"


As I said... out of context. You're starting to sound silly. If you
don't
like Jesus' message, why not just say so.

You don't seem to know what His message is. And I'm certain that you
are unable to articulate what the context of Mark 9:19 is.


I'm sure you're able to tell us. In any case, this has nothing to do
with
the vitriol from the right. Or, maybe it does.

Hopefully you're not ready to venture into the ignoble domain of the
circumstantial ad hominem. Few go there and return to the land of
reason.


Not sure what you're talking about. It's a fact that what I said was
accurate about the right. Don't you remember Rudy's little convention
speech.

Circumstantial ad hominem?

As if he hasn't provided enough direct proof of his fundy idiocy?

I know, we can figure it out by having a bible quoting contest!

ROFL! What contest, dude? You haven't quoted or cited anything! you've
tied yourself into knots trying to keep up. how do you know the guys a
fundy anyway? Just because he's done the research and you havent? Your a
winner alright!

[jps]

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:08:02 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:31:32 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/20/09 1:19 PM, wrote:

So, I take it that you decline to submit evidential material to
confirm his role as a community organizer?


Jesus can be whatever you want..., just as "the bible" can prove
or
disprove any belief you have.

As an example, to me, if he existed at all, Jesus was a pretty
cool
dude
with some socially acceptable ideas about his fellow man who spent
his
life preaching his vision of Judaism to Jews in the general area
in
which he supposedly lived, and who had no idea or desire to
convert
Jews
or pagans to a new religion. As with every other religion,
Christianity
is a creation of man.

If Jesus was a pretty cool dude, then he's so simply because
you've
created Him that way in your own mind?


Can't speak for Harry, but He was a "cool dude" because of his
message
of
peace, acceptance, and healing.

His message like this?

NAS Mark 9:19 And He *answered them and *said, "O unbelieving
generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up
with
you? Bring him to Me!"


As I said... out of context. You're starting to sound silly. If you
don't
like Jesus' message, why not just say so.

You don't seem to know what His message is. And I'm certain that you
are unable to articulate what the context of Mark 9:19 is.


I'm sure you're able to tell us. In any case, this has nothing to do
with
the vitriol from the right. Or, maybe it does.

Hopefully you're not ready to venture into the ignoble domain of the
circumstantial ad hominem. Few go there and return to the land of
reason.


Not sure what you're talking about. It's a fact that what I said was
accurate about the right. Don't you remember Rudy's little convention
speech.

Circumstantial ad hominem?

As if he hasn't provided enough direct proof of his fundy idiocy?

I know, we can figure it out by having a bible quoting contest!

ROFL! What contest, dude? You haven't quoted or cited anything! you've
tied yourself into knots trying to keep up. how do you know the guys a
fundy anyway? Just because he's done the research and you havent? Your a
winner alright!

I live in the modern world have no regard for those who need bible
passages to guide their existence.

The passages he's quoting could be interpretted to mean whatever
argument he'd like to make. It's a ruse. Evidently, you buy into
bull**** easily since you think he's actually made a point.

He or I could quote several passages that confirm your behavior is
reason for you to be stoned to death.

I prefer dictionary definitions, and from my knowledge of the
historical accounts of his life, the one posted here for community
organizer fits Jesus fine.

The bible is full of easily manipulated phrases that the disingenuous
use to impart false value to poorly constructed arguments.

Jesus was a community organizer.

Here, learn something about him...

http://www.lcurve.org/writings/BiblicalLiberal.htm

[achmed[_2_]]

jps wrote:

The bible is full of easily manipulated phrases that the disingenuous
use to impart false value to poorly constructed arguments.

Jesus was a community organizer.

Here, learn something about him...

http://www.lcurve.org/writings/BiblicalLiberal.htm

You are right The link you posted is pure liberal spin.

[Candy Man]

I could quote several passages that confirm your behavior is
reason for you to be stoned to death.

You can? Ok then. show me. I'm here all week.

Or are you going to pull another dodge?

[jps]

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:38:20 -0600, "Candy Man"
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I could quote several passages that confirm your behavior is
reason for you to be stoned to death.

You can? Ok then. show me. I'm here all week.

Or are you going to pull another dodge?

I didn't offer to, I said I could. No sock puppet is worth the
investment of time. Have a nice weekend.

[Candy Man]

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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:38:20 -0600, "Candy Man"
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I could quote several passages that confirm your behavior is
reason for you to be stoned to death.

You can? Ok then. show me. I'm here all week.

Or are you going to pull another dodge?

I didn't offer to, I said I could. No sock puppet is worth the
investment of time. Have a nice weekend.

You must be heading out for a car show. Nice dodge.

[TopBassDog]

On Nov 21, 8:16*pm, jps wrote:
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:31:32 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/20/09 1:19 PM, wrote:

So, I take it that you decline to submit evidential material to
confirm his role as a community organizer?

Jesus can be whatever you want..., just as "the bible" can prove
or
disprove any belief you have.

As an example, to me, if he existed at all, Jesus was a pretty
cool
dude
with some socially acceptable ideas about his fellow man who spent
his
life preaching his vision of Judaism to Jews in the general area
in
which he supposedly lived, and who had no idea or desire to
convert
Jews
or pagans to a new religion. As with every other religion,
Christianity
is a creation of man.

If Jesus was a pretty cool dude, then he's so simply because
you've
created Him that way in your own mind?

Can't speak for Harry, but He was a "cool dude" because of *his
message
of
peace, acceptance, and healing.

His message like this?

NAS Mark 9:19 And He *answered them and *said, "O unbelieving
generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up
with
you? Bring him to Me!"

As I said... out of context. You're starting to sound silly. If you
don't
like Jesus' message, why not just say so.

You don't seem to know what His message is. *And I'm certain that you
are unable to articulate what the context of Mark 9:19 is.

I'm sure you're able to tell us. In any case, this has nothing to do
with
the vitriol from the right. Or, maybe it does.

Hopefully you're not ready to venture into the ignoble domain of the
circumstantial ad hominem. *Few go there and return to the land of
reason.

Not sure what you're talking about. It's a fact that what I said was
accurate about the right. Don't you remember Rudy's little convention
speech.

Circumstantial ad hominem?

As if he hasn't provided enough direct proof of his fundy idiocy?

I know, we can figure it out by having a bible quoting contest!

ROFL! *What contest, dude? *You haven't quoted or cited anything! *you've
tied yourself into knots trying to keep up. *how do you know the guys a
fundy anyway? *Just because he's done the research and you havent? *Your a
winner alright!

I live in the modern world have no regard for those who need bible
passages to guide their existence.

The passages he's quoting could be interpretted to mean whatever
argument he'd like to make. *It's a ruse. *Evidently, you buy into
bull**** easily since you think he's actually made a point.

He or I could quote several passages that confirm your behavior is
reason for you to be stoned to death.

I prefer dictionary definitions, and from my knowledge of the
historical accounts of his life, the one posted here for community
organizer fits Jesus fine. *

The bible is full of easily manipulated phrases that the disingenuous
use to impart false value to poorly constructed arguments.

Jesus was a community organizer.

Here, learn something about him...

http://www.lcurve.org/writings/BiblicalLiberal.htm

David Chandler never mentioned community "organizer" or "organizing"
in that link.

Take your own advice and learn more yourself.. The Christ was, and is
a Liberator, not a liberal.

There is a difference.

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:31:32 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/20/09 1:19 PM, wrote:

So, I take it that you decline to submit evidential material to
confirm his role as a community organizer?


Jesus can be whatever you want..., just as "the bible" can prove
or
disprove any belief you have.

As an example, to me, if he existed at all, Jesus was a pretty
cool
dude
with some socially acceptable ideas about his fellow man who
spent
his
life preaching his vision of Judaism to Jews in the general area
in
which he supposedly lived, and who had no idea or desire to
convert
Jews
or pagans to a new religion. As with every other religion,
Christianity
is a creation of man.

If Jesus was a pretty cool dude, then he's so simply because
you've
created Him that way in your own mind?


Can't speak for Harry, but He was a "cool dude" because of his
message
of
peace, acceptance, and healing.

His message like this?

NAS Mark 9:19 And He *answered them and *said, "O unbelieving
generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up
with
you? Bring him to Me!"


As I said... out of context. You're starting to sound silly. If you
don't
like Jesus' message, why not just say so.

You don't seem to know what His message is. And I'm certain that you
are unable to articulate what the context of Mark 9:19 is.


I'm sure you're able to tell us. In any case, this has nothing to do
with
the vitriol from the right. Or, maybe it does.

Hopefully you're not ready to venture into the ignoble domain of the
circumstantial ad hominem. Few go there and return to the land of
reason.


Not sure what you're talking about. It's a fact that what I said was
accurate about the right. Don't you remember Rudy's little convention
speech.

Circumstantial ad hominem?

As if he hasn't provided enough direct proof of his fundy idiocy?

I know, we can figure it out by having a bible quoting contest!

ROFL! What contest, dude? You haven't quoted or cited anything! you've
tied yourself into knots trying to keep up. how do you know the guys a
fundy anyway? Just because he's done the research and you havent? Your a
winner alright!

Research? He quoted some passages out of context.

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:31:32 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/20/09 1:19 PM, wrote:

So, I take it that you decline to submit evidential material
to
confirm his role as a community organizer?


Jesus can be whatever you want..., just as "the bible" can prove
or
disprove any belief you have.

As an example, to me, if he existed at all, Jesus was a pretty
cool
dude
with some socially acceptable ideas about his fellow man who
spent
his
life preaching his vision of Judaism to Jews in the general area
in
which he supposedly lived, and who had no idea or desire to
convert
Jews
or pagans to a new religion. As with every other religion,
Christianity
is a creation of man.

If Jesus was a pretty cool dude, then he's so simply because
you've
created Him that way in your own mind?


Can't speak for Harry, but He was a "cool dude" because of his
message
of
peace, acceptance, and healing.

His message like this?

NAS Mark 9:19 And He *answered them and *said, "O unbelieving
generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I put up
with
you? Bring him to Me!"


As I said... out of context. You're starting to sound silly. If you
don't
like Jesus' message, why not just say so.

You don't seem to know what His message is. And I'm certain that
you
are unable to articulate what the context of Mark 9:19 is.


I'm sure you're able to tell us. In any case, this has nothing to do
with
the vitriol from the right. Or, maybe it does.

Hopefully you're not ready to venture into the ignoble domain of the
circumstantial ad hominem. Few go there and return to the land of
reason.


Not sure what you're talking about. It's a fact that what I said was
accurate about the right. Don't you remember Rudy's little convention
speech.

Circumstantial ad hominem?

As if he hasn't provided enough direct proof of his fundy idiocy?

I know, we can figure it out by having a bible quoting contest!

ROFL! What contest, dude? You haven't quoted or cited anything! you've
tied yourself into knots trying to keep up. how do you know the guys a
fundy anyway? Just because he's done the research and you havent? Your
a winner alright!

Research? He quoted some passages out of context.


Everything he quoted directly contradicted you what guys are saying so that
tells me that the guy has done his homework. you and jps haven't shown how
what he has quoted is out of context in anyway at all. That tells me that
you guys don't have a clue.