Running out of IP addresses.
Similar to phone numbers needing an area code to meet the expanding
need.
Think we got a few years left before a software fix will address it.
When that fix goes in, there's a chance that all computers accessing
the net - which is most now - will crash.
The world will come to a standstill, except for the panic in the
streets.
I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd
confluence of events, eh wot?

--Vic

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:02:50 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Running out of IP addresses.
Similar to phone numbers needing an area code to meet the expanding
need.
Think we got a few years left before a software fix will address it.
When that fix goes in, there's a chance that all computers accessing
the net - which is most now - will crash.
The world will come to a standstill, except for the panic in the
streets.
I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd
confluence of events, eh wot?


A solution has been in place for some time: IPv6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6

Most internet hardware made in the last few years is fully IPv6
compliant, and private sub-nets like your home router are easily
upgradable if needed.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
Running out of IP addresses.
Similar to phone numbers needing an area code to meet the expanding
need.
Think we got a few years left before a software fix will address it.
When that fix goes in, there's a chance that all computers accessing
the net - which is most now - will crash.
The world will come to a standstill, except for the panic in the
streets.
I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd
confluence of events, eh wot?

--Vic

IPv6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6

hth,
JT

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:26:34 -0800, "JT"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
Running out of IP addresses.
Similar to phone numbers needing an area code to meet the expanding
need.
Think we got a few years left before a software fix will address it.
When that fix goes in, there's a chance that all computers accessing
the net - which is most now - will crash.
The world will come to a standstill, except for the panic in the
streets.
I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd
confluence of events, eh wot?

--Vic

IPv6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6

hth,
JT

Hope this helps?
No! It's a disaster coming!
I'm going to start stocking up on routers now before they're sold out!

From the link you provided:
"As with the year-2000 compatibility, IPv6 compatibility is mainly a
software/firmware issue. However, unlike the year-2000 issue, there
seems to be virtually no effort to ensure compatibility of older
equipment and software by manufacturers. Furthermore, even
compatibility of products now available is unlikely for many types of
software and equipment. This is caused by only a recent realisation
that IPv4 exhaustion is imminent, and the hope that we will be able to
get by for a relatively long time with a combined IPv4/IPv6 situation.
There is a tug-of-war going on in the internet community whether the
transition will/should be rapid or long. Specifically, an important
question is whether almost all internet servers should be ready to
serve to new IPv6-only clients by 2012. Universal access to IPv6-only
servers will be even more of a challenge."

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:26:34 -0800, "JT"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
Running out of IP addresses.
Similar to phone numbers needing an area code to meet the expanding
need.
Think we got a few years left before a software fix will address it.
When that fix goes in, there's a chance that all computers accessing
the net - which is most now - will crash.
The world will come to a standstill, except for the panic in the
streets.
I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd
confluence of events, eh wot?

--Vic

IPv6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6

hth,
JT

Hope this helps?
No! It's a disaster coming!
I'm going to start stocking up on routers now before they're sold out!

From the link you provided:
"As with the year-2000 compatibility, IPv6 compatibility is mainly a
software/firmware issue. However, unlike the year-2000 issue, there
seems to be virtually no effort to ensure compatibility of older
equipment and software by manufacturers. Furthermore, even
compatibility of products now available is unlikely for many types of
software and equipment. This is caused by only a recent realisation
that IPv4 exhaustion is imminent, and the hope that we will be able to
get by for a relatively long time with a combined IPv4/IPv6 situation.
There is a tug-of-war going on in the internet community whether the
transition will/should be rapid or long. Specifically, an important
question is whether almost all internet servers should be ready to
serve to new IPv6-only clients by 2012. Universal access to IPv6-only
servers will be even more of a challenge."



I'm sure the Mayans can fix it.


--
Nom=de=Plume

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:02:50 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd
confluence of events, eh wot?

Nope-a-rooney dude-a-reeno...

New protocol designed and implimented a couple of years or so ago I
believe. I'm sure our resident Super Genius Paste Eater already has
it implimented in all his computers.

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:09:56 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:02:50 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd
confluence of events, eh wot?

Nope-a-rooney dude-a-reeno...

New protocol designed and implimented a couple of years or so ago I
believe. I'm sure our resident Super Genius Paste Eater already has
it implimented in all his computers.

Hey, dildo -- all computers the last two years have an IPv6 stack.
It'll take years to convert to IPv6 and both with be able to run
concurrently. So, even a hoser like you will be fine.

It's not PCs that are at risk but the IPv4 devices that are in the
field when the transition to IPv6 is complete.

Keep up, your personal slags will have more bite.

jps wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:09:56 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:02:50 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd
confluence of events, eh wot?
Nope-a-rooney dude-a-reeno...

New protocol designed and implimented a couple of years or so ago I
believe. I'm sure our resident Super Genius Paste Eater already has
it implimented in all his computers.

Hey, dildo -- all computers the last two years have an IPv6 stack.
It'll take years to convert to IPv6 and both with be able to run
concurrently. So, even a hoser like you will be fine.

The real problem is there is no real need to change. Why toss out the
telco/cable infrastructure when you dont need to? Just to make Cisco
richer? Hardly.

Look at IP4 as 2^32 points of presence. 4,294 million addresses, just
shy of one per person on the planet. 1/4 is pure technical waste,
upper, lower brodcast/router and 2 IPs in the mddle for one household.
Makes a little over a billion addresses.

Next, you have political waste, 1/2 of the existing space is pure dark.
Some companies are cyber squating on large blocks of IP addresses
like real-estate speculators waiting for political balls to re-allocate it.

And companies, even organzations the size f the US government can use
reserved address space and run the who organization on as little as 1000
IPs quite easily. In fact, it would help thier security issues to do so.

In your home all 6 residents might have a PC, but on the internet it is
one public IP.

Don't oversell IP6. Nice academic excercise. IP4 has a ong way to go
yet. And many technical issues remain on the conversion.

It's not PCs that are at risk but the IPv4 devices that are in the
field when the transition to IPv6 is complete.

Keep up, your personal slags will have more bite.

Correct, but add changing some 100's of millions of devices and PCs all
at once. Not going to happen. In the mean time it is limited pretty
much to academia on private networks, often tunneled through IP4 to make
it woek. Unless you have enough cash to rent/buy your own fiber.

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says...

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:02:50 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd
confluence of events, eh wot?

Nope-a-rooney dude-a-reeno...

New protocol designed and implimented a couple of years or so ago I
believe. I'm sure our resident Super Genius Paste Eater already has
it implimented in all his computers.

Back when I was doing CM work for a router company, in the very early
90's, all the talk was about the impending disaster that was to come by
the running out of IPv4 addresses. It was predicted that all IPv4
addresses would be allocated my 1993. It was the crisis before Y2K was a
crisis.

IPv6 was the winner over several other proposals at the time.

http://ipv6.com/articles/general/timeline-of-ipv6.htm

NAT and the recovery of some of the Class A address space had enabled
IPv4 to survive these past 16 to 18 years without interrupting your
USENET pleasure.