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Speaking of Y2K - New Crisis Coming
Running out of IP addresses.
Similar to phone numbers needing an area code to meet the expanding need. Think we got a few years left before a software fix will address it. When that fix goes in, there's a chance that all computers accessing the net - which is most now - will crash. The world will come to a standstill, except for the panic in the streets. I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd confluence of events, eh wot? --Vic |
Speaking of Y2K - New Crisis Coming
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:02:50 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: Running out of IP addresses. Similar to phone numbers needing an area code to meet the expanding need. Think we got a few years left before a software fix will address it. When that fix goes in, there's a chance that all computers accessing the net - which is most now - will crash. The world will come to a standstill, except for the panic in the streets. I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd confluence of events, eh wot? A solution has been in place for some time: IPv6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6 Most internet hardware made in the last few years is fully IPv6 compliant, and private sub-nets like your home router are easily upgradable if needed. |
Speaking of Y2K - New Crisis Coming
"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... Running out of IP addresses. Similar to phone numbers needing an area code to meet the expanding need. Think we got a few years left before a software fix will address it. When that fix goes in, there's a chance that all computers accessing the net - which is most now - will crash. The world will come to a standstill, except for the panic in the streets. I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd confluence of events, eh wot? --Vic IPv6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6 hth, JT |
Speaking of Y2K - New Crisis Coming
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:26:34 -0800, "JT"
wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . Running out of IP addresses. Similar to phone numbers needing an area code to meet the expanding need. Think we got a few years left before a software fix will address it. When that fix goes in, there's a chance that all computers accessing the net - which is most now - will crash. The world will come to a standstill, except for the panic in the streets. I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd confluence of events, eh wot? --Vic IPv6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6 hth, JT Hope this helps? No! It's a disaster coming! I'm going to start stocking up on routers now before they're sold out! From the link you provided: "As with the year-2000 compatibility, IPv6 compatibility is mainly a software/firmware issue. However, unlike the year-2000 issue, there seems to be virtually no effort to ensure compatibility of older equipment and software by manufacturers. Furthermore, even compatibility of products now available is unlikely for many types of software and equipment. This is caused by only a recent realisation that IPv4 exhaustion is imminent, and the hope that we will be able to get by for a relatively long time with a combined IPv4/IPv6 situation. There is a tug-of-war going on in the internet community whether the transition will/should be rapid or long. Specifically, an important question is whether almost all internet servers should be ready to serve to new IPv6-only clients by 2012. Universal access to IPv6-only servers will be even more of a challenge." |
Speaking of Y2K - New Crisis Coming
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:02:50 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote: I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd confluence of events, eh wot? Nope-a-rooney dude-a-reeno... New protocol designed and implimented a couple of years or so ago I believe. I'm sure our resident Super Genius Paste Eater already has it implimented in all his computers. |
Speaking of Y2K - New Crisis Coming
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:09:56 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:02:50 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd confluence of events, eh wot? Nope-a-rooney dude-a-reeno... New protocol designed and implimented a couple of years or so ago I believe. I'm sure our resident Super Genius Paste Eater already has it implimented in all his computers. Hey, dildo -- all computers the last two years have an IPv6 stack. It'll take years to convert to IPv6 and both with be able to run concurrently. So, even a hoser like you will be fine. It's not PCs that are at risk but the IPv4 devices that are in the field when the transition to IPv6 is complete. Keep up, your personal slags will have more bite. |
Speaking of Y2K - New Crisis Coming
jps wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:09:56 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:02:50 -0600, Vic Smith wrote: I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd confluence of events, eh wot? Nope-a-rooney dude-a-reeno... New protocol designed and implimented a couple of years or so ago I believe. I'm sure our resident Super Genius Paste Eater already has it implimented in all his computers. Hey, dildo -- all computers the last two years have an IPv6 stack. It'll take years to convert to IPv6 and both with be able to run concurrently. So, even a hoser like you will be fine. The real problem is there is no real need to change. Why toss out the telco/cable infrastructure when you dont need to? Just to make Cisco richer? Hardly. Look at IP4 as 2^32 points of presence. 4,294 million addresses, just shy of one per person on the planet. 1/4 is pure technical waste, upper, lower brodcast/router and 2 IPs in the mddle for one household. Makes a little over a billion addresses. Next, you have political waste, 1/2 of the existing space is pure dark. Some companies are cyber squating on large blocks of IP addresses like real-estate speculators waiting for political balls to re-allocate it. And companies, even organzations the size f the US government can use reserved address space and run the who organization on as little as 1000 IPs quite easily. In fact, it would help thier security issues to do so. In your home all 6 residents might have a PC, but on the internet it is one public IP. Don't oversell IP6. Nice academic excercise. IP4 has a ong way to go yet. And many technical issues remain on the conversion. It's not PCs that are at risk but the IPv4 devices that are in the field when the transition to IPv6 is complete. Keep up, your personal slags will have more bite. Correct, but add changing some 100's of millions of devices and PCs all at once. Not going to happen. In the mean time it is limited pretty much to academia on private networks, often tunneled through IP4 to make it woek. Unless you have enough cash to rent/buy your own fiber. |
Speaking of Y2K - New Crisis Coming
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:26:34 -0800, "JT" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message . .. Running out of IP addresses. Similar to phone numbers needing an area code to meet the expanding need. Think we got a few years left before a software fix will address it. When that fix goes in, there's a chance that all computers accessing the net - which is most now - will crash. The world will come to a standstill, except for the panic in the streets. I wonder if this happens in 2012. Probably. This is really an odd confluence of events, eh wot? --Vic IPv6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6 hth, JT Hope this helps? No! It's a disaster coming! I'm going to start stocking up on routers now before they're sold out! From the link you provided: "As with the year-2000 compatibility, IPv6 compatibility is mainly a software/firmware issue. However, unlike the year-2000 issue, there seems to be virtually no effort to ensure compatibility of older equipment and software by manufacturers. Furthermore, even compatibility of products now available is unlikely for many types of software and equipment. This is caused by only a recent realisation that IPv4 exhaustion is imminent, and the hope that we will be able to get by for a relatively long time with a combined IPv4/IPv6 situation. There is a tug-of-war going on in the internet community whether the transition will/should be rapid or long. Specifically, an important question is whether almost all internet servers should be ready to serve to new IPv6-only clients by 2012. Universal access to IPv6-only servers will be even more of a challenge." I'm sure the Mayans can fix it. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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