Andrew Sullivan on President Obama rejecting the war options for
Afghanistan:

"What strikes me about this is the enormous self-confidence this
reveals. Here is a young president, prepared to allow himself to be
portrayed as 'weak' or 'dithering' in the slow and meticulous arrival
at public policy. He is trusting the reality to help expose what we
need to do. He is allowing the debate -- however messy and confusing
and emotional -- to take its time and reveal the real choices in front
of us. This is politically risky, of course. Those who treat politics
as a contact-sport, whose insistence is on the 'game' of who wins
which news cycle, or who can spin each moment in a political storm as
a harbinger of whatever, will pounce and shriek and try to bounce the
president into a decision. And those who believe that what matters in
war is charging ahead regardless at all times will also grandstand
against the president's insistence on prudence."

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:23:43 -0800, jps wrote:

Andrew Sullivan

BBBAAWWWAAAHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!

"jps" wrote in message
news

Andrew Sullivan on President Obama rejecting the war options for
Afghanistan:

"What strikes me about this is the enormous self-confidence this
reveals. Here is a young president, prepared to allow himself to be
portrayed as 'weak' or 'dithering' in the slow and meticulous arrival
at public policy. He is trusting the reality to help expose what we
need to do. He is allowing the debate -- however messy and confusing
and emotional -- to take its time and reveal the real choices in front
of us. This is politically risky, of course. Those who treat politics
as a contact-sport, whose insistence is on the 'game' of who wins
which news cycle, or who can spin each moment in a political storm as
a harbinger of whatever, will pounce and shriek and try to bounce the
president into a decision. And those who believe that what matters in
war is charging ahead regardless at all times will also grandstand
against the president's insistence on prudence."


Did you read his piece about why Bush should apologize? .. I think it was in
the Atlantic... amazing piece. Useless, since Bush won't do that, but
still...

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:35:01 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
news

Andrew Sullivan on President Obama rejecting the war options for
Afghanistan:

"What strikes me about this is the enormous self-confidence this
reveals. Here is a young president, prepared to allow himself to be
portrayed as 'weak' or 'dithering' in the slow and meticulous arrival
at public policy. He is trusting the reality to help expose what we
need to do. He is allowing the debate -- however messy and confusing
and emotional -- to take its time and reveal the real choices in front
of us. This is politically risky, of course. Those who treat politics
as a contact-sport, whose insistence is on the 'game' of who wins
which news cycle, or who can spin each moment in a political storm as
a harbinger of whatever, will pounce and shriek and try to bounce the
president into a decision. And those who believe that what matters in
war is charging ahead regardless at all times will also grandstand
against the president's insistence on prudence."


Did you read his piece about why Bush should apologize? .. I think it was in
the Atlantic... amazing piece. Useless, since Bush won't do that, but
still...

Haven't seen it but will look for it.

Thanks.

"Schitt's Creek Paddle and Canoe" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:23:43 -0800, jps wrote:

Andrew Sullivan

BBBAAWWWAAAHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!


Because.... why? Are you afraid of him? Do you hate him? Why the distain?

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On 11/13/09 1:49 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Schitt's Creek Paddle and wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:23:43 -0800, wrote:

Andrew Sullivan

BBBAAWWWAAAHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!


Because.... why? Are you afraid of him? Do you hate him? Why the distain?



Because Sullivan is a real, articulate man of accomplishment and Tom is
a mustered-out old guy with a marine uniform in his closet.

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"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:35:01 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
news

Andrew Sullivan on President Obama rejecting the war options for
Afghanistan:

"What strikes me about this is the enormous self-confidence this
reveals. Here is a young president, prepared to allow himself to be
portrayed as 'weak' or 'dithering' in the slow and meticulous arrival
at public policy. He is trusting the reality to help expose what we
need to do. He is allowing the debate -- however messy and confusing
and emotional -- to take its time and reveal the real choices in front
of us. This is politically risky, of course. Those who treat politics
as a contact-sport, whose insistence is on the 'game' of who wins
which news cycle, or who can spin each moment in a political storm as
a harbinger of whatever, will pounce and shriek and try to bounce the
president into a decision. And those who believe that what matters in
war is charging ahead regardless at all times will also grandstand
against the president's insistence on prudence."


Did you read his piece about why Bush should apologize? .. I think it was
in
the Atlantic... amazing piece. Useless, since Bush won't do that, but
still...

Haven't seen it but will look for it.

Thanks.


Not sure if you can get it without subscribing, but here's the link...

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200910/bush-torture


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