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Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:06:57 -0500, BAR wrote:
When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Interesting article yesterday about Obama's lack of leaderhip. And it was a left winger who wrote it. The wheels of the bus are coming off - slowly and surely. |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health manifesto will create. My question is: When? Steve |
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On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote:
Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work. No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser like you, Ingersoll. |
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On Nov 6, 9:56*am, H the K wrote:
On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote: Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work. No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser like you, Ingersoll. You should expect 12.5% unemployment by June 2010. Us employers have gone on strike against the Obamination and his cronies who caused the economic meltdown. As long as Dodd, Frank and Obama are still in office or still have power, nobody will invest. At least Corzine who benefited from the meltdown got kicked out. So, you can either vote people out in the 2010 election or learn to say "Welcome to WalMart". |
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On 11/6/09 10:35 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:56 am, H the wrote: On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote: Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work. No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser like you, Ingersoll. You should expect 12.5% unemployment by June 2010. Us employers have gone on strike against the Obamination and his cronies who caused the economic meltdown. As long as Dodd, Frank and Obama are still in office or still have power, nobody will invest. At least Corzine who benefited from the meltdown got kicked out. So, you can either vote people out in the 2010 election or learn to say "Welcome to WalMart". Hehehe. Are you and SW Tom taking the same meds? You come across as crazy as he does. |
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"BAR" wrote in message
. .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Thank you George W. Bush for screwing up an economy and getting us embroiled in a war of choice. Thank you for sending 1000s to die for no good reason. When is it going to be time for you to man up and accept the facts. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"SteveB" wrote in message
... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health manifesto will create. My question is: When? Steve The unemployment claims are dropping every month from a high of 700K to 190K last month. I know this bothers you, but things are getting better, or rather, the rate of unemployment is slowing. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Nov 6, 9:56 am, H the K wrote: On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote: Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work. No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser like you, Ingersoll. You should expect 12.5% unemployment by June 2010. Us employers have gone on strike against the Obamination and his cronies who caused the economic meltdown. As long as Dodd, Frank and Obama are still in office or still have power, nobody will invest. At least Corzine who benefited from the meltdown got kicked out. So, you can either vote people out in the 2010 election or learn to say "Welcome to WalMart". Reply: Completely untrue. the unemployment rate will still climb slightly, but as productivity increases at some point no significant gains can be had with current employees, orders (which are increasing) will force companies to hire. The turning point should be mid-2010. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Nov 6, 1:51*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 9:56 am, H the K wrote: On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote: Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work. No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser like you, Ingersoll. You should expect 12.5% unemployment by June 2010. *Us employers have gone on strike against the Obamination and his cronies who caused the economic meltdown. *As long as Dodd, Frank and Obama are still in office or still have power, nobody will invest. *At least Corzine who benefited from the meltdown got kicked out. So, you can either vote people out in the 2010 election or learn to say "Welcome to WalMart". Reply: Completely untrue. the unemployment rate will still climb slightly, but as productivity increases at some point no significant gains can be had with current employees, orders (which are increasing) will force companies to hire. The turning point should be mid-2010. -- Nom=de=Plume We should all feel so good, the second derivative is getting smaller, ie the rate of increase is getting smaller. Note, unemployment is still getting larger and is far beyond anything Obama said would happen under his porkulus that has done so much to cause unemployment. Of course with his ideas on punishing small business by hitting em with an 8% tax for not supplying health care, you can expect unemployment to jump sharply if they pass this monstrosity. Most employers know they can do well with fewer employees and when they consider this 8% they will immediately cut employees. Outsourcing to no benefit independent contractors will be far cheaper than employees and using software or robots to do stuff will be much more attractive than new employees. Obama is providing the incentive to produce permanent unemployment above 10%. Even burger flippers will be replaced by machines and all the Wal Mart greeters will be replaced by cutesy "HelloKitty" style robots who will not require bennies. Welcome to Obamanomics where only party members have jobs. I refuse to hire and refuse to invest in Obama's Soros inspired socialist economy. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Nov 6, 1:51 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 9:56 am, H the K wrote: On 11/6/09 9:39 AM, Tosk wrote: Well, at 10.2 % unemployment, the stimulous didn't work. No amount of "stimulous" will convince a real employer to hire a loser like you, Ingersoll. You should expect 12.5% unemployment by June 2010. Us employers have gone on strike against the Obamination and his cronies who caused the economic meltdown. As long as Dodd, Frank and Obama are still in office or still have power, nobody will invest. At least Corzine who benefited from the meltdown got kicked out. So, you can either vote people out in the 2010 election or learn to say "Welcome to WalMart". Reply: Completely untrue. the unemployment rate will still climb slightly, but as productivity increases at some point no significant gains can be had with current employees, orders (which are increasing) will force companies to hire. The turning point should be mid-2010. -- Nom=de=Plume We should all feel so good, the second derivative is getting smaller, ie the rate of increase is getting smaller. Note, unemployment is Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. still getting larger and is far beyond anything Obama said would happen under his porkulus that has done so much to cause unemployment. Of course with his ideas on punishing small business by The problems are pretty bad. The stimulus (started during Bush's tenure) did make a difference on many things, including financial stability and job loss. hitting em with an 8% tax for not supplying health care, you can expect unemployment to jump sharply if they pass this monstrosity. A public option or stiff healthcare company regulations will lower costs. Please show me where it says it would "punish" small business. Most employers know they can do well with fewer employees and when they consider this 8% they will immediately cut employees. Up to a point, but then they'll need to expand if the company wants to grow. This is basic economics. Outsourcing to no benefit independent contractors will be far cheaper than employees and using software or robots to do stuff will be much more attractive than new employees. Obama is providing the incentive Outsourcing has always been less expensive for non-core functions... at least in modern times. That's no argument for or against HC reform, except that independents would have affordable coverage available with a public option. to produce permanent unemployment above 10%. Even burger flippers will be replaced by machines and all the Wal Mart greeters will be replaced by cutesy "HelloKitty" style robots who will not require bennies. Welcome to Obamanomics where only party members have jobs. Totally ridiculous comment. Why don't you just start out with calling him a socialist. Then, we wouldn't have to wade through the previous stuff. I refuse to hire and refuse to invest in Obama's Soros inspired socialist economy. Feel free to move to whatever country would better represent your economic views. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 11/6/09 2:16 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
I refuse to hire and refuse to invest in Obama's Soros inspired socialist economy. Of course, if your midget company had any work to do... |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment. Even the simps should be able to comprehend... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...oyment.html?hp |
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On Nov 6, 4:06*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment. Even the simps should be able to comprehend... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...economy/unempl... Only an Obama voter could think that punishing small business, (the part of the economy that always starts to hire first at the end of a recession) with an 8% tax for not offering health insurance to employees will encourage them to hire. Morons, this will encourage small business to lay people off AND encourage other small businesses to get by without getting bigger. Why grow if the penalty for growth is an 8% tax and endless health insurance paperwork. It will also keep people from even wanting to start their own businesses. The "stimulus" offered by Bush was supposed to be used to buy "toxic mortgages" but was instead funelled to Obama cronies with nearly no such mortgages bought, they are still on the books. Now, Barney Frank wants to force the insurance industry to use similar low standards to force them to sell insurance to bad risks, a guarantee the insurance companies will collapse. |
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On 11/6/09 4:41 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 6, 4:06 pm, wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment. Even the simps should be able to comprehend... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...economy/unempl... Only an Obama voter could think that punishing small business, (the part of the economy that always starts to hire first at the end of a recession) with an 8% tax for not offering health insurance to employees will encourage them to hire. Morons, this will encourage small business to lay people off AND encourage other small businesses to get by without getting bigger. Why grow if the penalty for growth is an 8% tax and endless health insurance paperwork. It will also keep people from even wanting to start their own businesses. The "stimulus" offered by Bush was supposed to be used to buy "toxic mortgages" but was instead funelled to Obama cronies with nearly no such mortgages bought, they are still on the books. Now, Barney Frank wants to force the insurance industry to use similar low standards to force them to sell insurance to bad risks, a guarantee the insurance companies will collapse. I think all you over the edge righties would feel a lot better if you just picked up and moved to a place more to your liking...a country you could run on your own terms...a country like south africa before apartheid ended, eh? No one would miss any of you. |
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H the K wrote:
On 11/6/09 4:41 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 6, 4:06 pm, wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment. Even the simps should be able to comprehend... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...economy/unempl... Only an Obama voter could think that punishing small business, (the part of the economy that always starts to hire first at the end of a recession) with an 8% tax for not offering health insurance to employees will encourage them to hire. Morons, this will encourage small business to lay people off AND encourage other small businesses to get by without getting bigger. Why grow if the penalty for growth is an 8% tax and endless health insurance paperwork. It will also keep people from even wanting to start their own businesses. The "stimulus" offered by Bush was supposed to be used to buy "toxic mortgages" but was instead funelled to Obama cronies with nearly no such mortgages bought, they are still on the books. Now, Barney Frank wants to force the insurance industry to use similar low standards to force them to sell insurance to bad risks, a guarantee the insurance companies will collapse. I think all you over the edge righties would feel a lot better if you just picked up and moved to a place more to your liking...a country you could run on your own terms...a country like south africa before apartheid ended, eh? No one would miss any of you. Better yet. You can go to Costa Rica and hook up with one of those busty Cheeky Fahitas. you fawn over. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Nov 6, 4:06 pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment. Even the simps should be able to comprehend... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...economy/unempl... Only an Obama voter could think that punishing small business, (the part of the economy that always starts to hire first at the end of a recession) with an 8% tax for not offering health insurance to employees will encourage them to hire. Morons, this will encourage small business to lay people off AND encourage other small businesses to get by without getting bigger. Why grow if the penalty for growth is an 8% tax and endless health insurance paperwork. It will also keep people from even wanting to start their own businesses. The "stimulus" offered by Bush was supposed to be used to buy "toxic mortgages" but was instead funelled to Obama cronies with nearly no such mortgages bought, they are still on the books. Now, Barney Frank wants to force the insurance industry to use similar low standards to force them to sell insurance to bad risks, a guarantee the insurance companies will collapse. Reply: Nice rant, but has very little to do with reality. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 4:06 pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment. Even the simps should be able to comprehend... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...economy/unempl... Only an Obama voter could think that punishing small business, (the part of the economy that always starts to hire first at the end of a recession) with an 8% tax for not offering health insurance to employees will encourage them to hire. Morons, this will encourage small business to lay people off AND encourage other small businesses to get by without getting bigger. Why grow if the penalty for growth is an 8% tax and endless health insurance paperwork. It will also keep people from even wanting to start their own businesses. The "stimulus" offered by Bush was supposed to be used to buy "toxic mortgages" but was instead funelled to Obama cronies with nearly no such mortgages bought, they are still on the books. Now, Barney Frank wants to force the insurance industry to use similar low standards to force them to sell insurance to bad risks, a guarantee the insurance companies will collapse. Reply: Nice rant, but has very little to do with reality. -- Nom=de=Plume Actually has a lot to do with reality and history. When I was a kid, there were ushers at the movie theater. Most of those went away when the minimum wage was implemented. All those jobs the kids did starting out and learning how to be a worker disappeared. Raise the cost of business too much, and the business will disappear. Just like in California. Raise the sales tax to 9.75%. Probably a boom in internet sales. People like me that were planing a trip anyway, replaced the tires in another state. Saved 4.5% on $800. Wife said too bad we were not planing a trip to Oregon. Want a nice paint job on your car? Take it out of state. Body shops can only use water based color paints now. But the home painter without a spray booth and filters can use the good paint. |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health manifesto will create. My question is: When? Steve The unemployment claims are dropping every month from a high of 700K to 190K last month. I know this bothers you, but things are getting better, or rather, the rate of unemployment is slowing. -- Nom=de=Plume The rate of unemployment should now be negative according to the reasons for the stimulus package. |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Thank you George W. Bush for screwing up an economy and getting us embroiled in a war of choice. Thank you for sending 1000s to die for no good reason. When is it going to be time for you to man up and accept the facts. -- Nom=de=Plume Economy was already screwing up and primed to really implode before George got in. George did not help the situation at all. As one of the financial comentators said today. Bill Clinton was a better Republican than George Bush. |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:45:26 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health manifesto will create. My question is: When? Steve The unemployment claims are dropping every month from a high of 700K to 190K last month. I know this bothers you, but things are getting better, or rather, the rate of unemployment is slowing. -- Nom=de=Plume The rate of unemployment should now be negative according to the reasons for the stimulus package. By who's measure? |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Thank you George W. Bush for screwing up an economy and getting us embroiled in a war of choice. Thank you for sending 1000s to die for no good reason. When is it going to be time for you to man up and accept the facts. -- Nom=de=Plume Economy was already screwing up and primed to really implode before George got in. George did not help the situation at all. As one of the financial comentators said today. Bill Clinton was a better Republican than George Bush. Have a look at this and see if you continue to agree with the above... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...oyment.html?hp |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:07:04 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:45:26 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health manifesto will create. My question is: When? Steve The unemployment claims are dropping every month from a high of 700K to 190K last month. I know this bothers you, but things are getting better, or rather, the rate of unemployment is slowing. -- Nom=de=Plume The rate of unemployment should now be negative according to the reasons for the stimulus package. By who's measure? O and the crew pushing the "stimulus" package. Thats who. I can't imagine you wanting to read such propaganda. Can you point me to any place that has such information? |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:45:26 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health manifesto will create. My question is: When? Steve The unemployment claims are dropping every month from a high of 700K to 190K last month. I know this bothers you, but things are getting better, or rather, the rate of unemployment is slowing. -- Nom=de=Plume The rate of unemployment should now be negative according to the reasons for the stimulus package. By who's measure? O and the crew pushing the "stimulus" package. Thats who. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Thank you George W. Bush for screwing up an economy and getting us embroiled in a war of choice. Thank you for sending 1000s to die for no good reason. When is it going to be time for you to man up and accept the facts. -- Nom=de=Plume Economy was already screwing up and primed to really implode before George got in. George did not help the situation at all. As one of the financial comentators said today. Bill Clinton was a better Republican than George Bush. Have a look at this and see if you continue to agree with the above... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...oyment.html?hp And that has what to do with the discussion? |
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:13:13 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Thank you George W. Bush for screwing up an economy and getting us embroiled in a war of choice. Thank you for sending 1000s to die for no good reason. When is it going to be time for you to man up and accept the facts. -- Nom=de=Plume Economy was already screwing up and primed to really implode before George got in. George did not help the situation at all. As one of the financial comentators said today. Bill Clinton was a better Republican than George Bush. Have a look at this and see if you continue to agree with the above... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...oyment.html?hp And that has what to do with the discussion? Why the hell would GW Bush demand those gigantic tax cuts if we were headed towards the ****ter? Didn't he know any better? |
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On Nov 6, 3:50*pm, H the K wrote:
On 11/6/09 4:41 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 6, 4:06 pm, *wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume" *wrote: Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment. Even the simps should be able to comprehend... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...economy/unempl.... Only an Obama voter could think that punishing small business, (the part of the economy that always starts to hire first at the end of a recession) with an 8% tax for not offering health insurance to employees will encourage them to hire. *Morons, this will encourage small business to lay people off AND encourage other small businesses to get by without getting bigger. *Why grow if the penalty for growth is an 8% tax and endless health insurance paperwork. *It will also keep people from even wanting to start their own businesses. The "stimulus" offered by Bush was supposed to be used to buy "toxic mortgages" but was instead funelled to Obama cronies with nearly no such mortgages bought, they are still on the books. *Now, Barney Frank wants to force the insurance industry to use similar low standards to force them to sell insurance to bad risks, a guarantee the insurance companies will collapse. I think all you over the edge righties would feel a lot better if you just picked up and moved to a place more to your liking...a country you could run on your own terms...a country like south africa before apartheid ended, eh? No one would miss any of you. I think all you over the edge lefties would feel a lot better if you just picked up and moved to a place more to your liking...a country you could run on your own terms...a country like Russia before C.C.C.P. ended, eh? No one would miss any of you. |
Thank You Obama, Pelosi and Reid
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, says... On Nov 6, 3:50*pm, H the K wrote: On 11/6/09 4:41 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 6, 4:06 pm, *wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume" *wrote: Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment. Even the simps should be able to comprehend... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...economy/unempl... Only an Obama voter could think that punishing small business, (the part of the economy that always starts to hire first at the end of a recession) with an 8% tax for not offering health insurance to employees will encourage them to hire. *Morons, this will encourage small business to lay people off AND encourage other small businesses to get by without getting bigger. *Why grow if the penalty for growth is an 8% tax and endless health insurance paperwork. *It will also keep people from even wanting to start their own businesses. The "stimulus" offered by Bush was supposed to be used to buy "toxic mortgages" but was instead funelled to Obama cronies with nearly no such mortgages bought, they are still on the books. *Now, Barney Frank wants to force the insurance industry to use similar low standards to force them to sell insurance to bad risks, a guarantee the insurance companies will collapse. I think all you over the edge righties would feel a lot better if you just picked up and moved to a place more to your liking...a country you could run on your own terms...a country like south africa before apartheid ended, eh? No one would miss any of you. I think all you over the edge lefties would feel a lot better if you just picked up and moved to a place more to your liking...a country you could run on your own terms...a country like Russia before C.C.C.P. ended, eh? No one would miss any of you. And, you don't have to worry about finding a job, they will tell you what to do, when to do it and how to do it. I hear that they have a great winter playground too, snowboarding and skiing all year round. They might just let you work there. |
Thank You Obama, Pelosi and Reid
On Nov 7, 5:03*am, TopBassDog wrote:
On Nov 6, 3:50*pm, H the K wrote: On 11/6/09 4:41 PM, Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 6, 4:06 pm, *wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume" *wrote: Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment. Even the simps should be able to comprehend... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...economy/unempl.... Only an Obama voter could think that punishing small business, (the part of the economy that always starts to hire first at the end of a recession) with an 8% tax for not offering health insurance to employees will encourage them to hire. *Morons, this will encourage small business to lay people off AND encourage other small businesses to get by without getting bigger. *Why grow if the penalty for growth is an 8% tax and endless health insurance paperwork. *It will also keep people from even wanting to start their own businesses. The "stimulus" offered by Bush was supposed to be used to buy "toxic mortgages" but was instead funelled to Obama cronies with nearly no such mortgages bought, they are still on the books. *Now, Barney Frank wants to force the insurance industry to use similar low standards to force them to sell insurance to bad risks, a guarantee the insurance companies will collapse. I think all you over the edge righties would feel a lot better if you just picked up and moved to a place more to your liking...a country you could run on your own terms...a country like south africa before apartheid ended, eh? No one would miss any of you. I think all you over the edge lefties would feel a lot better if you *just picked up and moved to a place more to your liking...a country you *could run on your own terms...a country like Russia before *C.C.C.P. ended, eh? *No one would miss any of you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, unhinged right wing speak at it's finest! |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 4:06 pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment. Even the simps should be able to comprehend... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...economy/unempl... Only an Obama voter could think that punishing small business, (the part of the economy that always starts to hire first at the end of a recession) with an 8% tax for not offering health insurance to employees will encourage them to hire. Morons, this will encourage small business to lay people off AND encourage other small businesses to get by without getting bigger. Why grow if the penalty for growth is an 8% tax and endless health insurance paperwork. It will also keep people from even wanting to start their own businesses. The "stimulus" offered by Bush was supposed to be used to buy "toxic mortgages" but was instead funelled to Obama cronies with nearly no such mortgages bought, they are still on the books. Now, Barney Frank wants to force the insurance industry to use similar low standards to force them to sell insurance to bad risks, a guarantee the insurance companies will collapse. Reply: Nice rant, but has very little to do with reality. -- Nom=de=Plume Actually has a lot to do with reality and history. When I was a kid, there were ushers at the movie theater. Most of those went away when the minimum wage was implemented. All those jobs the kids did starting out and learning how to be a worker disappeared. Raise the cost of business too much, and the business will disappear. Just like in California. Raise the sales tax to 9.75%. Probably a boom in internet sales. People like me that were planing a trip anyway, replaced the tires in another state. Saved 4.5% on $800. Wife said too bad we were not planing a trip to Oregon. Want a nice paint job on your car? Take it out of state. Body shops can only use water based color paints now. But the home painter without a spray booth and filters can use the good paint. I think he was talking about some notion of a tax on small business re heathcare. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Thank You Obama, Pelosi and Reid
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health manifesto will create. My question is: When? Steve The unemployment claims are dropping every month from a high of 700K to 190K last month. I know this bothers you, but things are getting better, or rather, the rate of unemployment is slowing. -- Nom=de=Plume The rate of unemployment should now be negative according to the reasons for the stimulus package. No. It typically takes a year at a minimum for job numbers to turn positive. In a deep recession, it takes even longer. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:45:26 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health manifesto will create. My question is: When? Steve The unemployment claims are dropping every month from a high of 700K to 190K last month. I know this bothers you, but things are getting better, or rather, the rate of unemployment is slowing. -- Nom=de=Plume The rate of unemployment should now be negative according to the reasons for the stimulus package. By who's measure? O and the crew pushing the "stimulus" package. Thats who. Nope. Show us where either said that. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Thank You Obama, Pelosi and Reid
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Thank you George W. Bush for screwing up an economy and getting us embroiled in a war of choice. Thank you for sending 1000s to die for no good reason. When is it going to be time for you to man up and accept the facts. -- Nom=de=Plume Economy was already screwing up and primed to really implode before George got in. George did not help the situation at all. As one of the financial comentators said today. Bill Clinton was a better Republican than George Bush. And then... to the rescue, Bush and his immense tax cut for the rich... that really, really helped! He made a potential salvageable situation much, much worse. We were on track to having a surplus. Did you forget that part? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"jps" wrote in message
... On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:13:13 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Thank you George W. Bush for screwing up an economy and getting us embroiled in a war of choice. Thank you for sending 1000s to die for no good reason. When is it going to be time for you to man up and accept the facts. -- Nom=de=Plume Economy was already screwing up and primed to really implode before George got in. George did not help the situation at all. As one of the financial comentators said today. Bill Clinton was a better Republican than George Bush. Have a look at this and see if you continue to agree with the above... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...oyment.html?hp And that has what to do with the discussion? Why the hell would GW Bush demand those gigantic tax cuts if we were headed towards the ****ter? Didn't he know any better? No. He didn't. He was being advised by Cheney who did. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Thank You Obama, Pelosi and Reid
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:43:30 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Thank you George W. Bush for screwing up an economy and getting us embroiled in a war of choice. Thank you for sending 1000s to die for no good reason. When is it going to be time for you to man up and accept the facts. -- Nom=de=Plume Economy was already screwing up and primed to really implode before George got in. George did not help the situation at all. As one of the financial comentators said today. Bill Clinton was a better Republican than George Bush. And then... to the rescue, Bush and his immense tax cut for the rich... that really, really helped! He made a potential salvageable situation much, much worse. We were on track to having a surplus. Did you forget that part? Surpluses are to be spent in the world of GW Bush. He never had to account for anything in his professional life. Failures were always covered by daddy and his friends. US resources were just another daddy-type account to draw on for GW. Didn't hear these dildo Republicans bitching then. "It's our money!!!" they screamed. Turns out it was China's... |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:07:04 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:45:26 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Before the campaign, all we heard was jobs, jobs, jobs. Now all we hear about are how many jobs were created or "saved". Inflated imaginings are what they are. And now we are all hearing about how many jobs this health manifesto will create. My question is: When? Steve The unemployment claims are dropping every month from a high of 700K to 190K last month. I know this bothers you, but things are getting better, or rather, the rate of unemployment is slowing. -- Nom=de=Plume The rate of unemployment should now be negative according to the reasons for the stimulus package. By who's measure? O and the crew pushing the "stimulus" package. Thats who. I can't imagine you wanting to read such propaganda. Can you point me to any place that has such information? Google. |
Thank You Obama, Pelosi and Reid
"jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:13:13 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "BAR" wrote in message . .. Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Jobles...0-pct-for-apf- 563122944.html?x=0&.v=8 But of course Obama will whine that it is Bush's fault. http://in.reuters.com/article/worldN...43692420091104 When is it time to man up and accept the reins of leadership and responsibility. I can see it now. The year is 2012 and Obama is saying if you give me another 4 years we can finally get started on getting undone what Bush did. Thank you George W. Bush for screwing up an economy and getting us embroiled in a war of choice. Thank you for sending 1000s to die for no good reason. When is it going to be time for you to man up and accept the facts. -- Nom=de=Plume Economy was already screwing up and primed to really implode before George got in. George did not help the situation at all. As one of the financial comentators said today. Bill Clinton was a better Republican than George Bush. Have a look at this and see if you continue to agree with the above... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...oyment.html?hp And that has what to do with the discussion? Why the hell would GW Bush demand those gigantic tax cuts if we were headed towards the ****ter? Didn't he know any better? Because, as I said Bush was worse than Clinton. Neither helped the economy. Clinton looked good because Greenspan let a bubble build. |
Thank You Obama, Pelosi and Reid
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 4:06 pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:06:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Thus, things are moving in the right direction. Job numbers take time to reverse. NY Times did a good set of graphics on the state of unemployment. Even the simps should be able to comprehend... http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...economy/unempl... Only an Obama voter could think that punishing small business, (the part of the economy that always starts to hire first at the end of a recession) with an 8% tax for not offering health insurance to employees will encourage them to hire. Morons, this will encourage small business to lay people off AND encourage other small businesses to get by without getting bigger. Why grow if the penalty for growth is an 8% tax and endless health insurance paperwork. It will also keep people from even wanting to start their own businesses. The "stimulus" offered by Bush was supposed to be used to buy "toxic mortgages" but was instead funelled to Obama cronies with nearly no such mortgages bought, they are still on the books. Now, Barney Frank wants to force the insurance industry to use similar low standards to force them to sell insurance to bad risks, a guarantee the insurance companies will collapse. Reply: Nice rant, but has very little to do with reality. -- Nom=de=Plume Actually has a lot to do with reality and history. When I was a kid, there were ushers at the movie theater. Most of those went away when the minimum wage was implemented. All those jobs the kids did starting out and learning how to be a worker disappeared. Raise the cost of business too much, and the business will disappear. Just like in California. Raise the sales tax to 9.75%. Probably a boom in internet sales. People like me that were planing a trip anyway, replaced the tires in another state. Saved 4.5% on $800. Wife said too bad we were not planing a trip to Oregon. Want a nice paint job on your car? Take it out of state. Body shops can only use water based color paints now. But the home painter without a spray booth and filters can use the good paint. I think he was talking about some notion of a tax on small business re heathcare. -- Nom=de=Plume He may have been, but it is all cost to the business. And if a business can not make a decent profit, then the business will close. |
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