On Nov 4, 6:14*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:11:58 -0500, NotNow wrote:
Please read completely. Don't kill the messenger, don't give anecdotal
crap, but respond with good, solid science to refute each of the points.

*http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0219-01.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific...al_oscillation

I'll condense it for you.

1750: PDO displays an unusually strong oscillation.[2]
1905: After a strong swing, PDO changed to a "warm" phase.
1946: PDO changed to a "cool" phase. [See the blue section of the
graph on the right]
1977: PDO changed to a "warm" phase.[3]
1998: PDO index showed several years of "cool" values, but did not
remain in that pattern.[4]
2008: The early stages of a cool phase of the basin-wide Pacific
Decadal Oscillation

That does NOTHING to scientifically prove that man has had no impact
on global warming.

Loogypicker wrote:
On Nov 4, 6:14 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:11:58 -0500, NotNow wrote:
Please read completely. Don't kill the messenger, don't give anecdotal
crap, but respond with good, solid science to refute each of the points.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0219-01.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific...al_oscillation

I'll condense it for you.

1750: PDO displays an unusually strong oscillation.[2]
1905: After a strong swing, PDO changed to a "warm" phase.
1946: PDO changed to a "cool" phase. [See the blue section of the
graph on the right]
1977: PDO changed to a "warm" phase.[3]
1998: PDO index showed several years of "cool" values, but did not
remain in that pattern.[4]
2008: The early stages of a cool phase of the basin-wide Pacific
Decadal Oscillation

That does NOTHING to scientifically prove that man has had no impact
on global warming.

If you follow all of the long term sciences such as Archeology,
Paleontology, etc. you will see that all of them show the long term
cyclic variation in the climate. In fact from those same sciences, the
climate is now at a 100k year peak, and is about to take the plunge to a
much colder climate.

One of the recent studies that confirmed this trend was the study of the
settlement in what is now the English Channel and the North Sea.

If these algorian and obamodytes really believed in global warming they
would be supporting the operations of nuclear plant, be 100% behind the
construction of new nuclear plants, and not closing the western waste
storage facility. The only possible conclusion from their actions is
that climate change is nothing more that a new way to tax the American
Voter.

On Nov 5, 11:04*am, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Nov 4, 6:14 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:11:58 -0500, NotNow wrote:
Please read completely. Don't kill the messenger, don't give anecdotal
crap, but respond with good, solid science to refute each of the points.
*http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0219-01.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific...al_oscillation

I'll condense it for you.

1750: PDO displays an unusually strong oscillation.[2]
1905: After a strong swing, PDO changed to a "warm" phase.
1946: PDO changed to a "cool" phase. [See the blue section of the
graph on the right]
1977: PDO changed to a "warm" phase.[3]
1998: PDO index showed several years of "cool" values, but did not
remain in that pattern.[4]
2008: The early stages of a cool phase of the basin-wide Pacific
Decadal Oscillation

That does NOTHING to scientifically prove that man has had no impact
on global warming.

If you follow all of the long term sciences such as Archeology,
Paleontology, etc. you will see that all of them show the long term
cyclic variation in the climate. *In fact from those same sciences, the
climate is now at a 100k year peak, and is about to take the plunge to a
much colder climate.

One of the recent studies that confirmed this trend was the study of the
* settlement in what is now the English Channel and the North Sea.

If these algorian and obamodytes really believed in global warming they
would be supporting the operations of nuclear plant, be 100% behind the
construction of new nuclear plants, and not closing the western waste
storage facility. *The only possible conclusion from their actions is
that climate change is nothing more that a new way to tax the American
Voter.

Loogy: Are you asking someone to prove a negative?

In article 1ea92096-0803-421c-ae9d-d5dbc4ab9014
@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 5, 11:04*am, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Nov 4, 6:14 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:11:58 -0500, NotNow wrote:
Please read completely. Don't kill the messenger, don't give anecdotal
crap, but respond with good, solid science to refute each of the points.
*http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0219-01.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific...al_oscillation

I'll condense it for you.

1750: PDO displays an unusually strong oscillation.[2]
1905: After a strong swing, PDO changed to a "warm" phase.
1946: PDO changed to a "cool" phase. [See the blue section of the
graph on the right]
1977: PDO changed to a "warm" phase.[3]
1998: PDO index showed several years of "cool" values, but did not
remain in that pattern.[4]
2008: The early stages of a cool phase of the basin-wide Pacific
Decadal Oscillation

That does NOTHING to scientifically prove that man has had no impact
on global warming.

If you follow all of the long term sciences such as Archeology,
Paleontology, etc. you will see that all of them show the long term
cyclic variation in the climate. *In fact from those same sciences, the
climate is now at a 100k year peak, and is about to take the plunge to a
much colder climate.

One of the recent studies that confirmed this trend was the study of the
* settlement in what is now the English Channel and the North Sea.

If these algorian and obamodytes really believed in global warming they
would be supporting the operations of nuclear plant, be 100% behind the
construction of new nuclear plants, and not closing the western waste
storage facility. *The only possible conclusion from their actions is
that climate change is nothing more that a new way to tax the American
Voter.

Loogy: Are you asking someone to prove a negative?

It seems that is a big part of his offense on this issue. Part of the
problem is partisanship. He seems to trust "his" scientists over any
others, his are right, everyone else is wrong. At least we stopped
hearing the "settled science" bull****... For now anyway.

--
Wafa free again.

Tosk wrote:
In article 1ea92096-0803-421c-ae9d-d5dbc4ab9014
@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says...
On Nov 5, 11:04 am, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Nov 4, 6:14 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:11:58 -0500, NotNow wrote:
Please read completely. Don't kill the messenger, don't give anecdotal
crap, but respond with good, solid science to refute each of the points.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0219-01.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific...al_oscillation
I'll condense it for you.
1750: PDO displays an unusually strong oscillation.[2]
1905: After a strong swing, PDO changed to a "warm" phase.
1946: PDO changed to a "cool" phase. [See the blue section of the
graph on the right]
1977: PDO changed to a "warm" phase.[3]
1998: PDO index showed several years of "cool" values, but did not
remain in that pattern.[4]
2008: The early stages of a cool phase of the basin-wide Pacific
Decadal Oscillation
That does NOTHING to scientifically prove that man has had no impact
on global warming.
If you follow all of the long term sciences such as Archeology,
Paleontology, etc. you will see that all of them show the long term
cyclic variation in the climate. In fact from those same sciences, the
climate is now at a 100k year peak, and is about to take the plunge to a
much colder climate.

One of the recent studies that confirmed this trend was the study of the
settlement in what is now the English Channel and the North Sea.

If these algorian and obamodytes really believed in global warming they
would be supporting the operations of nuclear plant, be 100% behind the
construction of new nuclear plants, and not closing the western waste
storage facility. The only possible conclusion from their actions is
that climate change is nothing more that a new way to tax the American
Voter.
Loogy: Are you asking someone to prove a negative?

It seems that is a big part of his offense on this issue. Part of the
problem is partisanship. He seems to trust "his" scientists over any
others, his are right, everyone else is wrong. At least we stopped
hearing the "settled science" bull****... For now anyway.


No, it's not proving a negative. Show me your "science" that states that
A) Global Warming is not occuring
B) Man's pollution has no affect on global warming.

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:26:08 -0500, NotNow wrote:

Tosk wrote:
In article 1ea92096-0803-421c-ae9d-d5dbc4ab9014
@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, says...
On Nov 5, 11:04 am, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Nov 4, 6:14 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:11:58 -0500, NotNow wrote:
Please read completely. Don't kill the messenger, don't give anecdotal
crap, but respond with good, solid science to refute each of the points.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0219-01.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific...al_oscillation
I'll condense it for you.
1750: PDO displays an unusually strong oscillation.[2]
1905: After a strong swing, PDO changed to a "warm" phase.
1946: PDO changed to a "cool" phase. [See the blue section of the
graph on the right]
1977: PDO changed to a "warm" phase.[3]
1998: PDO index showed several years of "cool" values, but did not
remain in that pattern.[4]
2008: The early stages of a cool phase of the basin-wide Pacific
Decadal Oscillation
That does NOTHING to scientifically prove that man has had no impact
on global warming.
If you follow all of the long term sciences such as Archeology,
Paleontology, etc. you will see that all of them show the long term
cyclic variation in the climate. In fact from those same sciences, the
climate is now at a 100k year peak, and is about to take the plunge to a
much colder climate.

One of the recent studies that confirmed this trend was the study of the
settlement in what is now the English Channel and the North Sea.

If these algorian and obamodytes really believed in global warming they
would be supporting the operations of nuclear plant, be 100% behind the
construction of new nuclear plants, and not closing the western waste
storage facility. The only possible conclusion from their actions is
that climate change is nothing more that a new way to tax the American
Voter.
Loogy: Are you asking someone to prove a negative?

It seems that is a big part of his offense on this issue. Part of the
problem is partisanship. He seems to trust "his" scientists over any
others, his are right, everyone else is wrong. At least we stopped
hearing the "settled science" bull****... For now anyway.


No, it's not proving a negative. Show me your "science" that states that
A) Global Warming is not occuring
B) Man's pollution has no affect on global warming.

Loogy, don't the words 'not' and 'no' imply negativity? How can you
possibly say you aren't asking for the proof of a negative?

If and when you figure out how to do that, let jps know so he can
'prove' there is no God.
--
Loogy says:

Conservative = Good
Liberal = Bad

I agree. John H

In article ,
says...
No, it's not proving a negative. Show me your "science" that states that
A) Global Warming is not occuring

Aren't we in cooling phase. My HAVC system only puts out hot or cold,
not both at the same time.

B) Man's pollution has no affect on global warming.

Everytime I exhale or fart am I polluting?

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...
No, it's not proving a negative. Show me your "science" that states that
A) Global Warming is not occuring

Aren't we in cooling phase. My HAVC system only puts out hot or cold,
not both at the same time.

B) Man's pollution has no affect on global warming.

Everytime I exhale or fart am I polluting?


Yes. Every time. I'm sure there's a treatment to minimize the latter.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Nov 5, 6:49*pm, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

No, it's not proving a negative. Show me your "science" that states that
A) Global Warming is not occuring

Aren't we in cooling phase. My HAVC system only puts out hot or cold,
not both at the same time.

B) Man's pollution has no affect on global warming.

Everytime I exhale or fart am I polluting?

Are you really that ****ing stupid?

Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:04 am, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Nov 4, 6:14 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:11:58 -0500, NotNow wrote:
Please read completely. Don't kill the messenger, don't give anecdotal
crap, but respond with good, solid science to refute each of the points.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0219-01.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific...al_oscillation
I'll condense it for you.
1750: PDO displays an unusually strong oscillation.[2]
1905: After a strong swing, PDO changed to a "warm" phase.
1946: PDO changed to a "cool" phase. [See the blue section of the
graph on the right]
1977: PDO changed to a "warm" phase.[3]
1998: PDO index showed several years of "cool" values, but did not
remain in that pattern.[4]
2008: The early stages of a cool phase of the basin-wide Pacific
Decadal Oscillation
That does NOTHING to scientifically prove that man has had no impact
on global warming.
If you follow all of the long term sciences such as Archeology,
Paleontology, etc. you will see that all of them show the long term
cyclic variation in the climate. In fact from those same sciences, the
climate is now at a 100k year peak, and is about to take the plunge to a
much colder climate.

One of the recent studies that confirmed this trend was the study of the
settlement in what is now the English Channel and the North Sea.

If these algorian and obamodytes really believed in global warming they
would be supporting the operations of nuclear plant, be 100% behind the
construction of new nuclear plants, and not closing the western waste
storage facility. The only possible conclusion from their actions is
that climate change is nothing more that a new way to tax the American
Voter.

Loogy: Are you asking someone to prove a negative?

No.