Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
 

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:15:40 -0500, Keith Nuttle
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jps wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog
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http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002

I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is
that there are valid national security issues at stake.
We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the
boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them.
NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job.
If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the
office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee
Freeze, why do you care?
The reality is they were only looking at international calls to
countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official
line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at
least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if
they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or
out..

Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them
were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a
mistake by stopping the investigations.

Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in
favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me.
You have misplaced priorities.

Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you.

Cheney has already irritated me and I want him to pay. It's not one
or the other. I want terrorists pursued and Cheney in prison.

All other investigations into corrupt Republican assholes can wait for
history.

BTW, according to Congresswoman Virginia Foxx, the health care plan is
more dangerous to the state of our country than any terrorist.

She's from your side of the aisle.

Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
 

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:51:53 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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"H the K" wrote in message
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On 11/3/09 4:32 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon
thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives.

That would not ring so hollow if Obama would stop the wars


How's he supposed to do that? Snap his fingers? It takes a while. We're
certainly drawing down in Iraq. A decision is pending in Afg.



Considering what just happened in Afghanistan in regard to the election
re-run, I'm hoping Obama resists the pressure to send in 40,000 more
troops, or any number resembling 40,000. Afghanistan is not a nation, it
is a collection of territories run by warlords, with a central government
run by a crook. Pakistan is also a failed nation. The geography in that
part of the world is pretty impossible.

It's too bad Dubya blew our wad in Iraq. Had our military concentrated on
Afghanistan and the Taliban and al Qaeda these past eight years, we might
be in a much better position now.

What we have is the mess an idiot like Bush leaves behind for others to
clean up.


I don't know what the best course is. I think we should concentrate more on
drones and special operations, but I'm not an expert. Obama is listening to
lots of folks and I'm willing to give him the benefit of my doubt about the
best decision... at least for now.

He seems a lot smarter than those two fellows who just left. The bald
one needs to go to jail, maybe bunk with Scooter for a white.

Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
 

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:30:02 -0500, H the K
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On 11/3/09 4:25 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"H the wrote in message
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On 11/3/09 3:15 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
jps wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog
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I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape!



http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002


I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is
that there are valid national security issues at stake.
We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the
boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them.
NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job.
If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the
office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee
Freeze, why do you care?
The reality is they were only looking at international calls to
countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official
line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at
least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if
they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or
out..

Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of
them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama
made a mistake by stopping the investigations.

Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in
favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me.
You have misplaced priorities.

Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you.


Cheney is a terrorist.


Don't know... but healthcare reform is worse, apparently.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...han-terrorism/



In republicanworld, she's mainstream.

She's a ****ing loon. That woman should be bloodied by a troop of
candy-addled girl scouts looking for whomever stole their shipment of
cookies.

Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
 

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog
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I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape!



http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002


I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is
that there are valid national security issues at stake.
We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the
boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them.
NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job.
If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the
office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee
Freeze, why do you care?
The reality is they were only looking at international calls to
countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official
line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at
least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if
they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or
out..


Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them
were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a
mistake by stopping the investigations.


Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is
an idiot.
BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt
Gingrich's cell phone?

Stuck in partisan politics and bought and paid for minority media...

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Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
 

In article ,
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:50:43 -0800, Loogypicker wrote:


Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is
an idiot.
BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt
Gingrich's cell phone?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Cite?


http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...or_giving.html

Jesus Loogie. This is getting pretty bad. Almost everything you have
said today has been proven absolutely wrong, time to take off the
partisan blinders and admit it... Nothing wrong with learning you are
wrong, the problem comes when you are afraid to admit and accept it, and
move on...


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Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
 

On 11/3/09 7:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:33:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt
Gingrich's cell phone?


No idea. I never heard it, and I think there's a diff. between "operatives"
(fairly nebulous) and the gov't.

When members of the Florida Democratic party apparatus are following
the speaker of the house around and secretly recording conversations
on his cell phone it does have a certain "watergate" quality to it but
nobody seemed to care.


Was Newt in the process of dumping another wife with cancer?

Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
 

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:32:04 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon
thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives.

That would not ring so hollow if Obama would stop the wars


How's he supposed to do that? Snap his fingers? It takes a while. We're
certainly drawing down in Iraq. A decision is pending in Afg.

That's what Nixon said after he ran on a stop the war platform.
BTDT.



Perhaps, but I don't think you can equate the two in any real way. Well,
they were both pretty darn smart.

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Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
 

"John H." wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message
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jps wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog
wrote:

I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape!



http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002

I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is
that there are valid national security issues at stake.
We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the
boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them.
NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job.
If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the
office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee
Freeze, why do you care?
The reality is they were only looking at international calls to
countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official
line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at
least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if
they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or
out..

Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of
them
were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a
mistake by stopping the investigations.

Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in
favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me.
You have misplaced priorities.

Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you.


Not really. Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon
thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives.

Sure, Harry, along with almost all the Democrats in Congress.

lol lol


I posted it not Harry, as you know. Feel like attacking the messenger...
wonder where you got that from....


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Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
 

wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:33:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt
Gingrich's cell phone?


No idea. I never heard it, and I think there's a diff. between
"operatives"
(fairly nebulous) and the gov't.

When members of the Florida Democratic party apparatus are following
the speaker of the house around and secretly recording conversations
on his cell phone it does have a certain "watergate" quality to it but
nobody seemed to care.


Seems like more of a Linda Tripp mentality. If it's illegal to do that, they
should be arrested and prosecuted.

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Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
 

"H the K" wrote in message
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On 11/3/09 7:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:33:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt
Gingrich's cell phone?


No idea. I never heard it, and I think there's a diff. between
"operatives"
(fairly nebulous) and the gov't.

When members of the Florida Democratic party apparatus are following
the speaker of the house around and secretly recording conversations
on his cell phone it does have a certain "watergate" quality to it but
nobody seemed to care.


Was Newt in the process of dumping another wife with cancer?


Only if he was on the way to the hospital to visit her.

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