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Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
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Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
On Nov 3, 10:22*am, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. *Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...9/10/26/barack... I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. No, no. He's doing it because he's a liberal, hates his country and doesn't want anything good. Just wait and see. The conservatives here will go there! |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
jps wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message
... jps wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. Not really. Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
On 11/3/09 3:15 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
jps wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. Cheney is a terrorist. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
On 11/3/09 4:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is an idiot. Yours are really dull. :) |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
"H the K" wrote in message
... On 11/3/09 3:15 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote: jps wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. Cheney is a terrorist. Don't know... but healthcare reform is worse, apparently. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...han-terrorism/ -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
On 11/3/09 4:25 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"H the wrote in message ... On 11/3/09 3:15 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote: jps wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. Cheney is a terrorist. Don't know... but healthcare reform is worse, apparently. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...han-terrorism/ In republicanworld, she's mainstream. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
wrote in message
... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. That would not ring so hollow if Obama would stop the wars How's he supposed to do that? Snap his fingers? It takes a while. We're certainly drawing down in Iraq. A decision is pending in Afg. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
wrote in message
... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is an idiot. BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt Gingrich's cell phone? No idea. I never heard it, and I think there's a diff. between "operatives" (fairly nebulous) and the gov't. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
"H the K" wrote in message
... On 11/3/09 4:19 PM, wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is an idiot. Yours are really dull. :) Well, so are mine. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
On 11/3/09 4:32 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. That would not ring so hollow if Obama would stop the wars How's he supposed to do that? Snap his fingers? It takes a while. We're certainly drawing down in Iraq. A decision is pending in Afg. Considering what just happened in Afghanistan in regard to the election re-run, I'm hoping Obama resists the pressure to send in 40,000 more troops, or any number resembling 40,000. Afghanistan is not a nation, it is a collection of territories run by warlords, with a central government run by a crook. Pakistan is also a failed nation. The geography in that part of the world is pretty impossible. It's too bad Dubya blew our wad in Iraq. Had our military concentrated on Afghanistan and the Taliban and al Qaeda these past eight years, we might be in a much better position now. What we have is the mess an idiot like Bush leaves behind for others to clean up. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
On Nov 3, 4:19*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. *Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...9/10/26/barack.... I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is an idiot. BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt Gingrich's cell phone?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cite? |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "Keith Nuttle" wrote in message ... jps wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. Not really. Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. Sure, Harry, along with almost all the Democrats in Congress. lol lol |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
"H the K" wrote in message
... On 11/3/09 4:32 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. That would not ring so hollow if Obama would stop the wars How's he supposed to do that? Snap his fingers? It takes a while. We're certainly drawing down in Iraq. A decision is pending in Afg. Considering what just happened in Afghanistan in regard to the election re-run, I'm hoping Obama resists the pressure to send in 40,000 more troops, or any number resembling 40,000. Afghanistan is not a nation, it is a collection of territories run by warlords, with a central government run by a crook. Pakistan is also a failed nation. The geography in that part of the world is pretty impossible. It's too bad Dubya blew our wad in Iraq. Had our military concentrated on Afghanistan and the Taliban and al Qaeda these past eight years, we might be in a much better position now. What we have is the mess an idiot like Bush leaves behind for others to clean up. I don't know what the best course is. I think we should concentrate more on drones and special operations, but I'm not an expert. Obama is listening to lots of folks and I'm willing to give him the benefit of my doubt about the best decision... at least for now. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would MakeDickCheney Proud
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:50:43 -0800, Loogypicker wrote:
Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is an idiot. BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt Gingrich's cell phone?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cite? http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...or_giving.html |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
On Nov 3, 10:34*am, Loogypicker wrote:
No, no. He's doing it because he's a liberal, hates his country and doesn't want anything good. Just wait and see. The conservatives here will go there!- you forgot that he's an arab muslim socialist. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:14:21 -0800 (PST), wf3h
wrote: On Nov 3, 10:34*am, Loogypicker wrote: No, no. He's doing it because he's a liberal, hates his country and doesn't want anything good. Just wait and see. The conservatives here will go there!- you forgot that he's an arab muslim socialist. In the words of our esteemed opposition... Kill him!! |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:15:40 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote: jps wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. Cheney has already irritated me and I want him to pay. It's not one or the other. I want terrorists pursued and Cheney in prison. All other investigations into corrupt Republican assholes can wait for history. BTW, according to Congresswoman Virginia Foxx, the health care plan is more dangerous to the state of our country than any terrorist. She's from your side of the aisle. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:51:53 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... On 11/3/09 4:32 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. That would not ring so hollow if Obama would stop the wars How's he supposed to do that? Snap his fingers? It takes a while. We're certainly drawing down in Iraq. A decision is pending in Afg. Considering what just happened in Afghanistan in regard to the election re-run, I'm hoping Obama resists the pressure to send in 40,000 more troops, or any number resembling 40,000. Afghanistan is not a nation, it is a collection of territories run by warlords, with a central government run by a crook. Pakistan is also a failed nation. The geography in that part of the world is pretty impossible. It's too bad Dubya blew our wad in Iraq. Had our military concentrated on Afghanistan and the Taliban and al Qaeda these past eight years, we might be in a much better position now. What we have is the mess an idiot like Bush leaves behind for others to clean up. I don't know what the best course is. I think we should concentrate more on drones and special operations, but I'm not an expert. Obama is listening to lots of folks and I'm willing to give him the benefit of my doubt about the best decision... at least for now. He seems a lot smarter than those two fellows who just left. The bald one needs to go to jail, maybe bunk with Scooter for a white. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:30:02 -0500, H the K
wrote: On 11/3/09 4:25 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "H the wrote in message ... On 11/3/09 3:15 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote: jps wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. Cheney is a terrorist. Don't know... but healthcare reform is worse, apparently. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...han-terrorism/ In republicanworld, she's mainstream. She's a ****ing loon. That woman should be bloodied by a troop of candy-addled girl scouts looking for whomever stole their shipment of cookies. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
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says... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is an idiot. BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt Gingrich's cell phone? Stuck in partisan politics and bought and paid for minority media... -- Wafa free again. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
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says... On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:50:43 -0800, Loogypicker wrote: Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is an idiot. BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt Gingrich's cell phone?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cite? http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...or_giving.html Jesus Loogie. This is getting pretty bad. Almost everything you have said today has been proven absolutely wrong, time to take off the partisan blinders and admit it... Nothing wrong with learning you are wrong, the problem comes when you are afraid to admit and accept it, and move on... -- Wafa free again. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
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Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
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... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:32:04 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. That would not ring so hollow if Obama would stop the wars How's he supposed to do that? Snap his fingers? It takes a while. We're certainly drawing down in Iraq. A decision is pending in Afg. That's what Nixon said after he ran on a stop the war platform. BTDT. Perhaps, but I don't think you can equate the two in any real way. Well, they were both pretty darn smart. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
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... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Keith Nuttle" wrote in message ... jps wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. Not really. Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. Sure, Harry, along with almost all the Democrats in Congress. lol lol I posted it not Harry, as you know. Feel like attacking the messenger... wonder where you got that from.... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:33:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt Gingrich's cell phone? No idea. I never heard it, and I think there's a diff. between "operatives" (fairly nebulous) and the gov't. When members of the Florida Democratic party apparatus are following the speaker of the house around and secretly recording conversations on his cell phone it does have a certain "watergate" quality to it but nobody seemed to care. Seems like more of a Linda Tripp mentality. If it's illegal to do that, they should be arrested and prosecuted. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
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... On 11/3/09 7:32 PM, wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:33:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt Gingrich's cell phone? No idea. I never heard it, and I think there's a diff. between "operatives" (fairly nebulous) and the gov't. When members of the Florida Democratic party apparatus are following the speaker of the house around and secretly recording conversations on his cell phone it does have a certain "watergate" quality to it but nobody seemed to care. Was Newt in the process of dumping another wife with cancer? Only if he was on the way to the hospital to visit her. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
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... In article , says... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is an idiot. BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt Gingrich's cell phone? Stuck in partisan politics and bought and paid for minority media... -- Wafa free again. The Republicans... definitely. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
On 11/3/09 7:48 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"John wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Keith wrote in message ... jps wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. Not really. Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. Sure, Harry, along with almost all the Democrats in Congress. lol lol I posted it not Harry, as you know. Feel like attacking the messenger... wonder where you got that from.... herring is an asshole. Once you accept that, nothing he posts matters. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
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... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:51:53 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I don't know what the best course is. I think we should concentrate more on drones and special operations, but I'm not an expert. Obama is listening to lots of folks and I'm willing to give him the benefit of my doubt about the best decision... at least for now. We kill more innocent civilians than terrorists with those drones. It is a flawed strategy Like I said, I'm willing to let those with greater knowledge make the decision. That's why I live in a representative democracy. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:45:50 -0500, H the K wrote: On 11/3/09 4:32 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. That would not ring so hollow if Obama would stop the wars How's he supposed to do that? Snap his fingers? It takes a while. We're certainly drawing down in Iraq. A decision is pending in Afg. Considering what just happened in Afghanistan in regard to the election re-run, I'm hoping Obama resists the pressure to send in 40,000 more troops, or any number resembling 40,000. Afghanistan is not a nation, it is a collection of territories run by warlords, with a central government run by a crook. Pakistan is also a failed nation. The geography in that part of the world is pretty impossible. True It's too bad Dubya blew our wad in Iraq. Had our military concentrated on Afghanistan and the Taliban and al Qaeda these past eight years, we might be in a much better position now. Not so true. We would just have more body bags. We had an early opportunity in Afg. We had world-wide support, and Bush squandered it. It would have made a difference. The SU had no such support, and we were actively working against them. Wasn't anyone paying attention to what happened to the Soviets? They spared no expense and gave no quarter, using the most ruthless tactics, and still got their ass kicked. All "Joe Wilson's war" did was make it a little more costly for them and challenged their air superiority but they still never really held much ground, even before we gave Bin Laden the stingers. At the time, it was their Vietnam. Now it is ours. Air power will not will a guerilla war. Wilson's war made it much more costly for them. It's nothing like VN. Iraq is more like that, but even that is a flawed analogy. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:42:12 -0800, jps wrote: Cheney has already irritated me and I want him to pay. Obama can chose. Pursue Cheney and spend the next 3 years having that be the focus of his administration or do the other things he wants to do. I am old enough to remember a few of these witch hunts and I can say, nothing else happened when they were going on. With Nixon, the war dragged on 3 years longer than it needed to With Clinton, the corporations and the bankers set up the apparatus to loot the country. Bush institutionalized the looting. Clinton didn't help the situation, but he had limited control when the Rep. took over Congress. Reagan started it. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:48:22 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Keith Nuttle" wrote in message ... jps wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. Not really. Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. Sure, Harry, along with almost all the Democrats in Congress. lol lol I posted it not Harry, as you know. Feel like attacking the messenger... wonder where you got that from.... You continue to show what you are, and who you sound like. In this case, the messenger made up the message. You've nothing but hot air from others to lend credence to what you said. It's called 'bull****'. Enough of you. |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
"John H." wrote in message
... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:48:22 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:43:21 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Keith Nuttle" wrote in message ... jps wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:48:11 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:20:49 -0800 (PST), TopBassDog wrote: I can see you, but you cannot see me. Clear as Scotch tape! http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/decla...aspx?GT1=43002 I think the reason Obama is stopping the "wiretap" investigations is that there are valid national security issues at stake. We stand around and bitch that Bush should have stopped Atta and the boys and then criticize the way he could have stopped them. NSA has always "wiretapped" and they always will. That is their job. If they are not busting you for your affair with the girl in the office or that bag of grass you arranged to pick up at the Tastee Freeze, why do you care? The reality is they were only looking at international calls to countries with terrorist ties anyway, if you can believe the official line. I have seen the bug Clinton put in every telephone office (at least while it was in the box) and I bet they hear more than that if they want. It is capable of sniffing every packet that goes in or out.. Actually, they were listening to far more conversations and many of them were inside the US. It's pretty well documented. I think Obama made a mistake by stopping the investigations. Probably a matter of priority. If they stopped all investigations in favor of focusing on putting Cheney away, that'd work for me. You have misplaced priorities. Cheney will only irritate you, terrorist will kill you. Not really. Cheney has been responsible for the deaths of thousand upon thousands of American, Iraqi, and Afgani lives. Sure, Harry, along with almost all the Democrats in Congress. lol lol I posted it not Harry, as you know. Feel like attacking the messenger... wonder where you got that from.... You continue to show what you are, and who you sound like. In this case, the messenger made up the message. You've nothing but hot air from others to lend credence to what you said. It's called 'bull****'. Enough of you. Then plonk me if that's what you like. I don't understand why you're unable to have a rational discussion without attacking the messenger. I'm sorry if you can't think logically (or won't). -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make Dick Cheney Proud
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... On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:22:09 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:42:12 -0800, jps wrote: Cheney has already irritated me and I want him to pay. Obama can chose. Pursue Cheney and spend the next 3 years having that be the focus of his administration or do the other things he wants to do. I am old enough to remember a few of these witch hunts and I can say, nothing else happened when they were going on. With Nixon, the war dragged on 3 years longer than it needed to With Clinton, the corporations and the bankers set up the apparatus to loot the country. Bush institutionalized the looting. Clinton didn't help the situation, but he had limited control when the Rep. took over Congress. Reagan started it. You can demonize Bush all you want, I won't stop you but you have to know the enabling legislation was passed while we were all wondering about blue dresses, cigars and little white lies. Now that you brought it up, some of the other legislation that set the stage for this looting happened while we were worried about what Oliver North was up to. There is nothing like a good scandal to divert our attention from what is really important and to stop any real business going on that benefits the country. If Obama gets bogged down in some Cheney investigation, that will be the only thing he will be doing. Certainly true... I don't think Obama will get bogged down if the AG decides to proceed. We need to hold everyone accountable for their acts. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
thunder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:50:43 -0800, Loogypicker wrote: Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is an idiot. BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt Gingrich's cell phone?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cite? http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...or_giving.html Exactly!!! I was a CONFERENCE call......nothing was "bugged". |
Barack Obama's Idea of 'Government Transparency' Would Make DickCheney Proud
Tosk wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:50:43 -0800, Loogypicker wrote: Anyone who thinks nobody ever listens to their phone conversations is an idiot. BTW where was the outrage when democratic operatives were bugging Newt Gingrich's cell phone?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cite? http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...or_giving.html Jesus Loogie. This is getting pretty bad. Almost everything you have said today has been proven absolutely wrong, time to take off the partisan blinders and admit it... Nothing wrong with learning you are wrong, the problem comes when you are afraid to admit and accept it, and move on... Uh, if you were to read the article posted, there was NO BUGGING. It was a friggin' CONFERENCE call. Yes, it IS getting bad. |
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