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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:40:44 -0400, Tosk
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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:00:27 -0400, H the K
wrote:

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And where do you stand exactly in the class struggle, Harry? You
inarguably have made it quite clear that you deem it to be an insult
to be cast with the lower classes. What style of progressivism do you
subscribe to, Harry? One of elitism?



You apparently are not a careful reader.

I assume we are not discussing Marxism here.

I stand "exactly" with the middle class, with those who are trying to
maintain their standing in it, and with those who are trying to achieve
it. I believe in extending a hand to those in the lower socioeconomic
classes who are *working* to achieve "middleclassdom." That "hand"
should include a way to pay for decent, readily available health care
insurance/coverage for themselves and their families, good public
schools, safety on the job, job retraining if they need it, et cetera.

I believe this country rises or falls on the success of the middle
class. I don't believe a right-wing financial oligarchy serves this
country. I believe that economic policy should promote expansion of the
middle class.


This is really rather depressing. If there is an attitude that can
subdue the spirit of individuality and a charter that denies the
individual the mobility to do with his life as he pleases, this screed
embodies it. What was once a burgeoning optimism in the youth of a
foundling nation in whose design lay the seminal notion of the
empowerment of the individual, there is now a gloomy surrender to the
premise that the individual must subordinate his potential to the
state, for the good of the state and the security of all. The
pretense of a duty to the state by the individual for the common good
is nothing more than a perfidious ploy to bridal any passion for
individuality and personal responsibility. The extended hand of the
collective is the hand that robs the individual, and it serves as a
cruel metaphor for the villiany of unbounded aspirations. It is an
unwarranted disdain for the successes of the inspired individual that
drives this pernicious philosophy, a comportment that disguises itself
as dutiful compassion. Fortunately, that 'compassion' has been
exposed in this thread for what it is - envy, superciliousness,
condescending patronage, contempt, and hate. Describing one's loyalty
to the middle class does not palliate a personal loathing of the less
fortunate, and it does not elevate the world of insults that defines
you.

Bye now.

Harry has been exposed yet again for the self centered, self indulgent
piece of crap he really is... But what's new, most of us have known that
for years..

According to our irascible JPS, I'm the self-centered, self-indulgent
piece of refuse. I wouldn't want to deny him the pleasure of
castigating me, now.

Well, I am sure there is a more eloquent way to say it, but let's just
stick with "killfile".

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:28:23 -0400, Jim wrote:

H the K wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/l62hpc


You posted a self portrait. Delicious!

I haven't taken the time to view the graphic; but, from what you've
described I can surmise that Harry has taken the forbidden path to the
ad hominem, a true exercise in futility.

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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:05:26 -0500, wrote:



You just don't know how to enjoy yourself, Harry, do you? No, I
don't use a thesaurus, and I'm being completely honest. I don't have
to. And any journeyed student of English would be able to tell
immediately if a person is using a thesaurus since in such cases the
words chosen will often be chosen awkwardly and will not play well in
the sentence. Your "suspicion" denotes angst more than it speaks to
your immaculate credentials.

You might find a thesaurus handy. I'd prefer that you use scissors.
But perhaps I should elucidate this in a different manner more fitting
to the audience.
The employment of a thesaurus can obfuscate or clarify the flights of
fancy a overly self-indulgent mind often takes in composing prose - or
poetry.
If the thesaurus is retrieved in a deliberate and thoughtful manner -
which is quite appropriate and fitting given the other requirements of
writing useful prose - that action may at least give one pause to
consider if what is being said is more important than how it is being
said.
In other words - will anybody want to wade through this?
That pause and added thought can be productive if it serves to improve
the result.
But usually only if the thesaurus is put back on the bookshelf.
Of course if the pause is simply used to pore through the thesaurus
for more words to use, those words may be, as you say, inserted
awkwardly - or perhaps misapplied to a picture only one can see.
Which could well be an improvement to the writer's eye, though
instilling a more pyrrhic aspect to the work, since the result is
usually that even fewer will read it, and thus the war is lost.
Bottom line, proper use of the thesaurus is tricky.
Hey, that's why scissors are better.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:05:26 -0500, wrote:


You just don't know how to enjoy yourself, Harry, do you? No, I
don't use a thesaurus, and I'm being completely honest. I don't have
to. And any journeyed student of English would be able to tell
immediately if a person is using a thesaurus since in such cases the
words chosen will often be chosen awkwardly and will not play well in
the sentence. Your "suspicion" denotes angst more than it speaks to
your immaculate credentials.

You might find a thesaurus handy. I'd prefer that you use scissors.
But perhaps I should elucidate this in a different manner more fitting
to the audience.
The employment of a thesaurus can obfuscate or clarify the flights of
fancy a overly self-indulgent mind often takes in composing prose - or
poetry.
If the thesaurus is retrieved in a deliberate and thoughtful manner -
which is quite appropriate and fitting given the other requirements of
writing useful prose - that action may at least give one pause to
consider if what is being said is more important than how it is being
said.
In other words - will anybody want to wade through this?
That pause and added thought can be productive if it serves to improve
the result.
But usually only if the thesaurus is put back on the bookshelf.
Of course if the pause is simply used to pore through the thesaurus
for more words to use, those words may be, as you say, inserted
awkwardly - or perhaps misapplied to a picture only one can see.
Which could well be an improvement to the writer's eye, though
instilling a more pyrrhic aspect to the work, since the result is
usually that even fewer will read it, and thus the war is lost.
Bottom line, proper use of the thesaurus is tricky.
Hey, that's why scissors are better.

--Vic

Keep it up. This kind of stuff drives Krausie nuts. Lol lol

On 10/30/09 9:57 AM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:05:26 -0500, wrote:



You just don't know how to enjoy yourself, Harry, do you? No, I
don't use a thesaurus, and I'm being completely honest. I don't have
to. And any journeyed student of English would be able to tell
immediately if a person is using a thesaurus since in such cases the
words chosen will often be chosen awkwardly and will not play well in
the sentence. Your "suspicion" denotes angst more than it speaks to
your immaculate credentials.



You might find a thesaurus handy. I'd prefer that you use scissors.
But perhaps I should elucidate this in a different manner more fitting
to the audience.
The employment of a thesaurus can obfuscate or clarify the flights of
fancy a overly self-indulgent mind often takes in composing prose - or
poetry.
If the thesaurus is retrieved in a deliberate and thoughtful manner -
which is quite appropriate and fitting given the other requirements of
writing useful prose - that action may at least give one pause to
consider if what is being said is more important than how it is being
said.
In other words - will anybody want to wade through this?
That pause and added thought can be productive if it serves to improve
the result.
But usually only if the thesaurus is put back on the bookshelf.
Of course if the pause is simply used to pore through the thesaurus
for more words to use, those words may be, as you say, inserted
awkwardly - or perhaps misapplied to a picture only one can see.
Which could well be an improvement to the writer's eye, though
instilling a more pyrrhic aspect to the work, since the result is
usually that even fewer will read it, and thus the war is lost.
Bottom line, proper use of the thesaurus is tricky.
Hey, that's why scissors are better.

--Vic


:)

Our boy jpj likes to torture English.

On Oct 30, 9:28*am, Jim wrote:
H the K wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/l62hpc

You posted a self portrait. Delicious!

Harry's much fatter than that!

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:57:04 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:05:26 -0500, wrote:



You just don't know how to enjoy yourself, Harry, do you? No, I
don't use a thesaurus, and I'm being completely honest. I don't have
to. And any journeyed student of English would be able to tell
immediately if a person is using a thesaurus since in such cases the
words chosen will often be chosen awkwardly and will not play well in
the sentence. Your "suspicion" denotes angst more than it speaks to
your immaculate credentials.

You might find a thesaurus handy. I'd prefer that you use scissors.
But perhaps I should elucidate this in a different manner more fitting
to the audience.
The employment of a thesaurus can obfuscate or clarify the flights of
fancy a overly self-indulgent mind often takes in composing prose - or
poetry.
If the thesaurus is retrieved in a deliberate and thoughtful manner -
which is quite appropriate and fitting given the other requirements of
writing useful prose - that action may at least give one pause to
consider if what is being said is more important than how it is being
said.
In other words - will anybody want to wade through this?
That pause and added thought can be productive if it serves to improve
the result.
But usually only if the thesaurus is put back on the bookshelf.
Of course if the pause is simply used to pore through the thesaurus
for more words to use, those words may be, as you say, inserted
awkwardly - or perhaps misapplied to a picture only one can see.
Which could well be an improvement to the writer's eye, though
instilling a more pyrrhic aspect to the work, since the result is
usually that even fewer will read it, and thus the war is lost.
Bottom line, proper use of the thesaurus is tricky.
Hey, that's why scissors are better.

--Vic

Your thoughtful missive is certainly worthy of contemplation, Vic. A
Thesaurus does have its place, and I do use a thesaurus on occasion.
But, I personally don't have the inclination to invest time rummaging
through a thesaurus to post notes in rec.boats. This is more of a
distraction for me. I suppose there are better distractions. But,
some of the the posts in this NG are rather witty and informative, and
except for the the racalcitrant progressive remonstration (sorry),
these can make for a pleasant diversion.

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In article ,
says...

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:05:26 -0500, wrote:


You just don't know how to enjoy yourself, Harry, do you? No, I
don't use a thesaurus, and I'm being completely honest. I don't have
to. And any journeyed student of English would be able to tell
immediately if a person is using a thesaurus since in such cases the
words chosen will often be chosen awkwardly and will not play well in
the sentence. Your "suspicion" denotes angst more than it speaks to
your immaculate credentials.

You might find a thesaurus handy. I'd prefer that you use scissors.
But perhaps I should elucidate this in a different manner more fitting
to the audience.
The employment of a thesaurus can obfuscate or clarify the flights of
fancy a overly self-indulgent mind often takes in composing prose - or
poetry.
If the thesaurus is retrieved in a deliberate and thoughtful manner -
which is quite appropriate and fitting given the other requirements of
writing useful prose - that action may at least give one pause to
consider if what is being said is more important than how it is being
said.
In other words - will anybody want to wade through this?
That pause and added thought can be productive if it serves to improve
the result.
But usually only if the thesaurus is put back on the bookshelf.
Of course if the pause is simply used to pore through the thesaurus
for more words to use, those words may be, as you say, inserted
awkwardly - or perhaps misapplied to a picture only one can see.
Which could well be an improvement to the writer's eye, though
instilling a more pyrrhic aspect to the work, since the result is
usually that even fewer will read it, and thus the war is lost.
Bottom line, proper use of the thesaurus is tricky.
Hey, that's why scissors are better.

--Vic

Keep it up. This kind of stuff drives Krausie nuts. Lol lol

Don't worry, Krausie will plagiarize something better, you watch..

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:30:38 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:16:36 -0500, wrote:



Your thoughtful missive is certainly worthy of contemplation, Vic.

Nah.

A
Thesaurus does have its place, and I do use a thesaurus on occasion.
But, I personally don't have the inclination to invest time rummaging
through a thesaurus to post notes in rec.boats. This is more of a
distraction for me. I suppose there are better distractions. But,
some of the the posts in this NG are rather witty and informative, and
except for the the racalcitrant progressive remonstration (sorry),
these can make for a pleasant diversion.

I tossed my thesaurus when I found this group.
Find plenty of new words here.

--Vic


LOL!

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:16:36 -0500, wrote:


Your thoughtful missive is certainly worthy of contemplation, Vic.

Nah.
I agree.


A
Thesaurus does have its place, and I do use a thesaurus on occasion.
But, I personally don't have the inclination to invest time rummaging
through a thesaurus to post notes in rec.boats. This is more of a
distraction for me. I suppose there are better distractions. But,
some of the the posts in this NG are rather witty and informative, and
except for the the racalcitrant progressive remonstration (sorry),
these can make for a pleasant diversion.

I tossed my thesaurus when I found this group.
Find plenty of new words here.

--Vic


You betcha!