On Oct 25, 9:12*am, "Cricket" wrote:
"John Kuthe" wrote in message

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On Oct 25, 6:31 am, Rich wrote:



On Oct 24, 8:55 pm, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:

In a previous article, Rich said:

clogging up pages and pages of text on the usenet group
recreation.boats.paddle as the following posting I am including

You know, if you're going to complain about somebody flooding a
newsgroup,
it would probably be a good idea to get the name of the newsgroup right.

This is rec.boats.paddle. There is no such heirarchy as "recreation".

Actualy we are both correct. rec.boats.paddle is an accepted
abbreviation but if you sign up for this group the first broad
catagory is "recreation" not rec. Type them both into a google search
and it takes you to the same place. Gotta love it.....

Rich

Rich

And already we are seeing a return the the RBP chatter of olde!

Pointlessly arguments about things that have nothing to do with
boating! :-)

John Kuthe...

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Yeah, but it shows numbers so people actually stop and check (even
SponsonBoy's post do that), and then they're here
and might stay.

And I'd be pretty amazed at any ISP that didn't know that "rec" stood for
"recreation", but whatever.

It's way too cold and nasty here for much paddling, so gotta amuse ourselves
somehow. *One disadvantage to plastic boat -
in the "olden days" you could spend the winter discussing major repairs and
tear-downs. *Now, not so much...

Too cold? Why, is the water solid?

I live in Missouri, and my home river is the Saint Francis. If the
water's liquid, people paddle! I've paddled in below 0 Celsius temps
and had ice forming on my paddle, and when it was raining ice too. But
as long as the water's liquid, and exists...

John Kuthe...

"John Kuthe" wrote in message
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On Oct 25, 9:12 am, "Cricket" wrote:
"John Kuthe" wrote in message
Rich

Too cold? Why, is the water solid?

I live in Missouri, and my home river is the Saint Francis. If the
water's liquid, people paddle! I've paddled in below 0 Celsius temps
and had ice forming on my paddle, and when it was raining ice too. But
as long as the water's liquid, and exists...

John Kuthe...

I'm not a fan of cold and wet when it's coming down from above too. I can
stay out of the water, mostly - but down the back of my neck - I don't even
ride in that weather if I can help it, and the horse puts out considerable
heat (those Aussie coats that hang down over the saddle? Little heat
risers, they are... ;)

Plus going by myself *and* that cold is a bad idea - and I'm *damn* sure I
don't know anyone else who will go. Used to be a bunch who went out every
Jan 1, down the Kalamazoo river (for a short stretch) - and then retired to
Su Casa, a local very tasty Mexican restaurant which (very relevant) serves
beer.

Then no one could say they'd been out earlier that year...but I don't
remember them ever saying they went right back out the next weekend... ;D

The Kalamazoo is the only river you can count on being liquid at that time
of year, so I don't feel too bad abandoning the rest 'til something
resembling spring.

Cricket

On Oct 25, 6:00�pm, John Kuthe wrote:
On Oct 25, 9:12�am, "Cricket" wrote:





"John Kuthe" wrote in message

....
On Oct 25, 6:31 am, Rich wrote:

On Oct 24, 8:55 pm, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:

In a previous article, Rich said:

clogging up pages and pages of text on the usenet group
recreation.boats.paddle as the following posting I am including

You know, if you're going to complain about somebody flooding a
newsgroup,
it would probably be a good idea to get the name of the newsgroup right.

This is rec.boats.paddle. There is no such heirarchy as "recreation".

Actualy we are both correct. rec.boats.paddle is an accepted
abbreviation but if you sign up for this group the first broad
catagory is "recreation" not rec. Type them both into a google search
and it takes you to the same place. Gotta love it.....

Rich

Rich

And already we are seeing a return the the RBP chatter of olde!

Pointlessly arguments about things that have nothing to do with
boating! :-)

John Kuthe...

################################################## #########################�##

Yeah, but it shows numbers so people actually stop and check (even
SponsonBoy's post do that), and then they're here
and might stay.

And I'd be pretty amazed at any ISP that didn't know that "rec" stood for
"recreation", but whatever.

It's way too cold and nasty here for much paddling, so gotta amuse ourselves
somehow. �One disadvantage to plastic boat -
in the "olden days" you could spend the winter discussing major repairs and
tear-downs. �Now, not so much...

Too cold? Why, is the water solid?

I live in Missouri, and my home river is the Saint Francis. If the
water's liquid, people paddle! I've paddled in below 0 Celsius temps
and had ice forming on my paddle, and when it was raining ice too. But
as long as the water's liquid, and exists...

John Kuthe...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John, I have paddled the St. Francis River in the past, as well as the
Little SF, Big Creek, the Eleven Point and the Current when I was in
the area. All lovely rivers, and I look forward to doing them again
someday. As a Michigan-based paddler, we never put the canoes away
for the winter. There are spots that stay ope in the cities, and a
few natural-flow rivers that are spring-fed. I remember a couple
winters ago a bunch of us with boats on top pulled into a restaurant
in February and wiped out the parking lot for the snow machines that
came later. Boy, did we get some strange looks!

Now, how about starting a BOATING controversy that has nothing to do
with sp******ns or ISPs. How about reviving the straps vs. ropes
arguement and we'll have a showdown between the trucker's hitchers and
the cam bucklers?

Rich

On Oct 25, 6:02*pm, Rich wrote:
On Oct 25, 6:00 pm, John Kuthe wrote:



On Oct 25, 9:12 am, "Cricket" wrote:

"John Kuthe" wrote in message

....
On Oct 25, 6:31 am, Rich wrote:

On Oct 24, 8:55 pm, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:

In a previous article, Rich said:

clogging up pages and pages of text on the usenet group
recreation.boats.paddle as the following posting I am including

You know, if you're going to complain about somebody flooding a
newsgroup,
it would probably be a good idea to get the name of the newsgroup right.

This is rec.boats.paddle. There is no such heirarchy as "recreation".

Actualy we are both correct. rec.boats.paddle is an accepted
abbreviation but if you sign up for this group the first broad
catagory is "recreation" not rec. Type them both into a google search
and it takes you to the same place. Gotta love it.....

Rich

Rich

And already we are seeing a return the the RBP chatter of olde!

Pointlessly arguments about things that have nothing to do with
boating! :-)

John Kuthe...

################################################## ###########################

Yeah, but it shows numbers so people actually stop and check (even
SponsonBoy's post do that), and then they're here
and might stay.

And I'd be pretty amazed at any ISP that didn't know that "rec" stood for
"recreation", but whatever.

It's way too cold and nasty here for much paddling, so gotta amuse ourselves
somehow. One disadvantage to plastic boat -
in the "olden days" you could spend the winter discussing major repairs and
tear-downs. Now, not so much...

Too cold? Why, is the water solid?

I live in Missouri, and my home river is the Saint Francis. If the
water's liquid, people paddle! I've paddled in below 0 Celsius temps
and had ice forming on my paddle, and when it was raining ice too. But
as long as the water's liquid, and exists...

John Kuthe...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John, I have paddled the St. Francis River in the past, as well as the
Little SF, Big Creek, the Eleven Point and the Current when I was in
the area. *All lovely rivers, and I look forward to doing them again
someday. *As a Michigan-based paddler, we never put the canoes away
for the winter. *There are spots that stay ope in the cities, and a
few natural-flow rivers that are spring-fed. *I remember a couple
winters ago a bunch of us with boats on top pulled into a restaurant
in February and wiped out the parking lot for the snow machines that
came later. *Boy, did we get some strange looks!

Now, how about starting a BOATING controversy that has nothing to do
with sp******ns or ISPs. *How about reviving the straps vs. ropes
arguement and we'll have a showdown between the trucker's hitchers and
the cam bucklers?

Rich

Straps vs. Ropes!! I'm a dyed in the wool ROPER!!!

Cam buckles are for WIMPS! I put a double twist in my trucker's
hitches just to make them easier to untie! And besides, if straps are
so cool, how come no one makes macrame out of straps?

:-)

John Kuthe...

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:02:08 -0700 (PDT), Rich
wrote:

On Oct 25, 6:00?pm, John Kuthe wrote:
On Oct 25, 9:12?am, "Cricket" wrote:





"John Kuthe" wrote in message

...
On Oct 25, 6:31 am, Rich wrote:

On Oct 24, 8:55 pm, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:

In a previous article, Rich said:

clogging up pages and pages of text on the usenet group
recreation.boats.paddle as the following posting I am including

You know, if you're going to complain about somebody flooding a
newsgroup,
it would probably be a good idea to get the name of the newsgroup right.

This is rec.boats.paddle. There is no such heirarchy as "recreation".

Actualy we are both correct. rec.boats.paddle is an accepted
abbreviation but if you sign up for this group the first broad
catagory is "recreation" not rec. Type them both into a google search
and it takes you to the same place. Gotta love it.....

Rich

Rich

And already we are seeing a return the the RBP chatter of olde!

Pointlessly arguments about things that have nothing to do with
boating! :-)

John Kuthe...

################################################## #########################?##

Yeah, but it shows numbers so people actually stop and check (even
SponsonBoy's post do that), and then they're here
and might stay.

And I'd be pretty amazed at any ISP that didn't know that "rec" stood for
"recreation", but whatever.

It's way too cold and nasty here for much paddling, so gotta amuse ourselves
somehow. ?One disadvantage to plastic boat -
in the "olden days" you could spend the winter discussing major repairs and
tear-downs. ?Now, not so much...

Too cold? Why, is the water solid?

I live in Missouri, and my home river is the Saint Francis. If the
water's liquid, people paddle! I've paddled in below 0 Celsius temps
and had ice forming on my paddle, and when it was raining ice too. But
as long as the water's liquid, and exists...

John Kuthe...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John, I have paddled the St. Francis River in the past, as well as the
Little SF, Big Creek, the Eleven Point and the Current when I was in
the area. All lovely rivers, and I look forward to doing them again
someday. As a Michigan-based paddler, we never put the canoes away
for the winter. There are spots that stay ope in the cities, and a
few natural-flow rivers that are spring-fed. I remember a couple
winters ago a bunch of us with boats on top pulled into a restaurant
in February and wiped out the parking lot for the snow machines that
came later. Boy, did we get some strange looks!

Now, how about starting a BOATING controversy that has nothing to do
with sp******ns or ISPs. How about reviving the straps vs. ropes
arguement and we'll have a showdown between the trucker's hitchers and
the cam bucklers?

Rich

There's no point in discussing that, everyone knows that straps are
far better.

I prefer stropes, which are flat webbings that you still tie knots
into. The boats bounce all over hell, but nobody can accuse me of
taking sides......

Rich

"Rich" wrote in message
...
I prefer stropes, which are flat webbings that you still tie knots
into. The boats bounce all over hell, but nobody can accuse me of
taking sides......

Rich


My truck was an appliance deliver truck in it's (long ago) youth. So it's
got attachment points everywhere, and a rack behind the cab.

I toss my boats in the back, grab the bungees with the 'biners and hook 'em
up and go...

I laugh at your ropes and straps! Ha ha!!

(Always wished I could make that sound like the Monty Python version...)

On Oct 25, 10:47*pm, "Cricket" wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message

...

I prefer stropes, which are flat webbings that you still tie knots
into. *The boats bounce all over hell, but nobody can accuse me of
taking sides......

Rich

My truck was an appliance deliver truck in it's (long ago) youth. *So it's
got attachment points everywhere, and a rack behind the cab.

I toss my boats in the back, grab the bungees with the 'biners and hook 'em
up and go...

I laugh at your ropes and straps! *Ha ha!!

(Always wished I could make that sound like the Monty Python version...)

Bungees??!! I hope you have some super-reinforced mondo-bulletproof
bungees!! I can't begin to count the number of bungees I've found
along roadways. Those things are notoriously unreliable. How many
boats have you bounced off the pavement? I can honestly say I've never
lost a boat tied with my ropes!

John Kuthe...

"John Kuthe" wrote in message
...
Bungees??!! I hope you have some super-reinforced mondo-bulletproof
bungees!! I can't begin to count the number of bungees I've found
along roadways. Those things are notoriously unreliable. How many
boats have you bounced off the pavement? I can honestly say I've never
lost a boat tied with my ropes!

John Kuthe...

Actually, these are pretty hefty. And they've got good, solid 'biners built
in. But mostly, the fact that the boats are down in the bed and restrained
that way makes me happier than I would be otherwise. For on top, out in the
wind, they get straps or ropes (ahah - not gonna pin me down there...)

Never lost a boat in thirty some years (sigh) of hauling them, and I've used
every fastening method known to man. Including shoving three of them
*inside* the motor home...something to do with my somewhat OCD tying
methods, I think...

One of the beauties of little boats. ;)

Cricket

Galen Hekhuis wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:02:08 -0700 (PDT), Rich
wrote:

On Oct 25, 6:00?pm, John Kuthe wrote:
On Oct 25, 9:12?am, "Cricket" wrote:





"John Kuthe" wrote in message
...
On Oct 25, 6:31 am, Rich wrote:
On Oct 24, 8:55 pm, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:
In a previous article, Rich said:
clogging up pages and pages of text on the usenet group
recreation.boats.paddle as the following posting I am including
You know, if you're going to complain about somebody flooding a
newsgroup,
it would probably be a good idea to get the name of the newsgroup right.
This is rec.boats.paddle. There is no such heirarchy as "recreation".
Actualy we are both correct. rec.boats.paddle is an accepted
abbreviation but if you sign up for this group the first broad
catagory is "recreation" not rec. Type them both into a google search
and it takes you to the same place. Gotta love it.....
Rich
Rich
And already we are seeing a return the the RBP chatter of olde!
Pointlessly arguments about things that have nothing to do with
boating! :-)
John Kuthe...
################################################## #########################?##
Yeah, but it shows numbers so people actually stop and check (even
SponsonBoy's post do that), and then they're here
and might stay.
And I'd be pretty amazed at any ISP that didn't know that "rec" stood for
"recreation", but whatever.
It's way too cold and nasty here for much paddling, so gotta amuse ourselves
somehow. ?One disadvantage to plastic boat -
in the "olden days" you could spend the winter discussing major repairs and
tear-downs. ?Now, not so much...
Too cold? Why, is the water solid?

I live in Missouri, and my home river is the Saint Francis. If the
water's liquid, people paddle! I've paddled in below 0 Celsius temps
and had ice forming on my paddle, and when it was raining ice too. But
as long as the water's liquid, and exists...

John Kuthe...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
John, I have paddled the St. Francis River in the past, as well as the
Little SF, Big Creek, the Eleven Point and the Current when I was in
the area. All lovely rivers, and I look forward to doing them again
someday. As a Michigan-based paddler, we never put the canoes away
for the winter. There are spots that stay ope in the cities, and a
few natural-flow rivers that are spring-fed. I remember a couple
winters ago a bunch of us with boats on top pulled into a restaurant
in February and wiped out the parking lot for the snow machines that
came later. Boy, did we get some strange looks!

Now, how about starting a BOATING controversy that has nothing to do
with sp******ns or ISPs. How about reviving the straps vs. ropes
arguement and we'll have a showdown between the trucker's hitchers and
the cam bucklers?

Rich

There's no point in discussing that, everyone knows that straps are
far better.

Hee! Hee!

Have to agree with Galen on that! :-)

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