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Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.
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Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.


Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.


Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

--Vic



Why? Because it's not completely unusual for the prize to be awarded to
promote change...

Who do you think is likely to have a greater impact...

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On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:44:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.


Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

--Vic



Why? Because it's not completely unusual for the prize to be awarded to
promote change...

Never saw that before. Seems past winners had solid past
accomplishments in the "peace" arena.
Even Arafat, though he proved intransigent in the end.

Who do you think is likely to have a greater impact...


Obama MIGHT in the future, and he might not.
Common prudence says look at the above list first.
Genuine work and sacrifice. Sadat won I think, and paid dearly.
I'm far from an expert on it and don't pay much attention.
That this award strikes me as silly doesn't make me a bad person.

--Vic



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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.

Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

--Vic



Why? Because it's not completely unusual for the prize to be awarded to
promote change...

Never saw that before. Seems past winners had solid past
accomplishments in the "peace" arena.
Even Arafat, though he proved intransigent in the end.

Who do you think is likely to have a greater impact...


Obama MIGHT in the future, and he might not.
Common prudence says look at the above list first.
Genuine work and sacrifice. Sadat won I think, and paid dearly.
I'm far from an expert on it and don't pay much attention.
That this award strikes me as silly doesn't make me a bad person.

--Vic



Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was unintentional.

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Look at the wiki page about the Nobel Peace prize.

Ok, I looked. Obama doesn't belong on the list.
My opinion.
Seems the committee is working on "hope" criteria instead of
established work as in the past.
Maybe he'll justify it in the end, but the "rules" have certainly
changed.
BTW, John Paul II, the Polish Pope, should be on that list.
He exuded peace and love, and spread it where ever he went.

You're right he might or might not, but most presidents have far-reaching
impact. GWB is an example. Not for good, but his impact on the world was
large.

I don't think you're a bad person. If I implied that, it was unintentional.


I was just kidding. I know I'm not a bad person. Mostly.

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On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:44:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.

Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

--Vic



Why? Because it's not completely unusual for the prize to be awarded to
promote change...

Never saw that before.


Because our "new" friend Nom de Harry just made it up... Does that
surprise you?

Seems past winners had solid past
accomplishments in the "peace" arena.
Even Arafat, though he proved intransigent in the end.

Who do you think is likely to have a greater impact...


Obama MIGHT in the future, and he might not.
Common prudence says look at the above list first.
Genuine work and sacrifice. Sadat won I think, and paid dearly.
I'm far from an expert on it and don't pay much attention.
That this award strikes me as silly doesn't make me a bad person.

--Vic



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On 10/11/09 8:55 AM, Tosk wrote:
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On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:44:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Vic wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.

Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

--Vic


Why? Because it's not completely unusual for the prize to be awarded to
promote change...

Never saw that before.


Because our "new" friend Nom de Harry just made it up... Does that
surprise you?

Seems past winners had solid past
accomplishments in the "peace" arena.
Even Arafat, though he proved intransigent in the end.

Who do you think is likely to have a greater impact...


Obama MIGHT in the future, and he might not.
Common prudence says look at the above list first.
Genuine work and sacrifice. Sadat won I think, and paid dearly.
I'm far from an expert on it and don't pay much attention.
That this award strikes me as silly doesn't make me a bad person.

--Vic




One for time for the right-wing cretins he

"...and one part to the person who shall have done the most or the best
work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of
standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.
The prizes for physics and chemistry shall be awarded by the Swedish
Academy of Sciences; that for physiology or medical works by the
Karolinska Institute in Stockholm; that for literature by the Academy in
Stockholm, and that for champions of peace by a committee of five
persons to be elected by the Norwegian Storting."

From Alfred Nobel's will.







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On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:44:20 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:38 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Chinese Human Rights Activist Hu Jia - imprisoned for campaigning for
human rights in the PRC, not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.
Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging
reforms of China's communist system. -- not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama. (Not to mention the symbolic value of awarding a
Chinese dissident on the 20th Anniversary of the Tianenmen Square
Massacre.)

Greg Mortenson, founder of the Central Asia Institute has built nearly
80 schools, especially for girls, in remote areas of northern Pakistan
and Afghanistan over the past 15 years - not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Jordan who risks
his life by advocating interfaith dialogue between Jews and Muslims,
also not as worthy as Barack Hussein Obama.

Afghan human rights activist Sima Samar. She currently leads the
Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and serves as the U.N.
special envoy to Darfur and is apparently also not as worthy as Barack
Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama - he's worthy of the Peace Prize for doing
nothing.

Good points. Too bad they made the Peace prize a joke.

--Vic


Why? Because it's not completely unusual for the prize to be awarded to
promote change...

Never saw that before.


Because our "new" friend Nom de Harry just made it up... Does that
surprise you?



I'm not Harry's friend... hardly know him. Sorry.

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