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On Oct 9, 12:40 pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:26:51 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:28:52 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. :)

I am drinking PBR these days. I have trouble finding regular Coors in
a bottle, my other choice.
I used to always drink Bud but I just lost the taste for it and I
don't like the heavy beers.
I drink Busch if I can't find PBR or Coors.

I could drink my share of Coors back in the day. Of course when I
quit, there wasn't a lot of choice unless it was a regional beer - the
home brew and "micro" brew industries were in their nascent stages
back then.

I still think back to Dixie though - the single most god awfull beer
ever brewed, but for some reason it went good with boiled crawdads and
shrimp - boiled in Zattaran's of course. It also tasted good cold out
in the Gulf fishing. :)

You never must have drunk Brew 102. Most likely worse than Dixie. The old
Falstaff brewery in San Francisco would put the partial fill cans in
dumpster out back. You would watch the wino's line up a bunch and open
them. Then proceed to drink a full beer's worth. Interesting what you saw
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FALSTAFF!

i forgot that one....

Working on my car in front of my house about the last year of HS and good
looking lady is doing a poll on beers. Buddy and I answered all the
questions and then she finds out we are not 21. Says she has to trash the
answers. Still, she was good looking. Poll was about Falstaff.

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:10:34 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:51:23 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:26:51 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:28:52 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of
Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. :)

I am drinking PBR these days. I have trouble finding regular Coors
in
a bottle, my other choice.
I used to always drink Bud but I just lost the taste for it and I
don't like the heavy beers.
I drink Busch if I can't find PBR or Coors.
I drink lots of water, and have been doing so for 22 years. Water's
not bad, but it's not a hot conversation topic. It doesn't get much
of
a head, and is usually pretty clear.
You must have had some of that crap they had from the Phillipines in
SEA.

San Miguel I think it was called? Had to strain it before you drank
it to get the crunchy bits out? :)
Well, yes. Actually I'd drink about anything that had an alcohol
content. Luckily, I had an Engineer company with dump trucks and a
First Sergeant who was a wheeler-dealer, and a Post Exchange at Cu Chi
that was always needing laterite for its swampy parking lot. So we
always had free beer and enough steaks for a Friday cookout.

Times were good.


For you maybe...while the real soldiers were out crawling through the
jungle getting shot at.
How does that make you feel Donny. Your friends and neighbors went to war
for you and some didn't come back.

Went to war for me?? I don't recall asking anyone to do such a thing.


Tell that to the survivors and widows of those at Sword Beach. Asshole!

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:55:03 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:37:13 -0400, H the K
wrote:

On 10/9/09 11:28 AM, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:33:33 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

And we discussed many other things in English Lit than just English
Lit

Well, then, what you had was some sort of Socratic Dialog or Seminar,
not an organized class. A proper class has an approved syllabus and
the instructor sticks with that syllabus to make sure the course
objectives are met. A class entitled one thing in which all things are
taught is just a free-for-all.... usually driven by the personal
whims and interests of the teacher. This is the equivalent of
education by ADD........


Uh, I disagree. In the 7th and 8th grade, when we were discussing
Dickens in English class, we also discussed the society in which the
novels were set, and some of the reasons why Dickens chose the subjects
he did. I'm sure we stuck with the teaching plan by doing so.

Uh.... no, we don't disagree and the teaching plan likely included the
social conditions of the novel. As I posted earlier:

"The study of Literature should or could encompass the following
points:

1. The body of written works of a language, period, or culture.
2. ........"

thus, "the society" is fair game. Reading NON-English Literature in
English Lit is NOT fair game and, certainly, "And we discussed many
other things in English Lit than just English Lit" is just hosed.


Profs build many frameworks around lit interpretation, including
psychological. Comparisons to current culture always rightfully
intrude for context, even if the prof doesn't want it to.
Human nature.
As you said though, a syllabus prevents a free-for-all.
When you get to Practical Criticism at the college level it all
becomes a bit metaphysical, with definitions and constraints blurring.
At least it did to me.
The Intentional Fallacy demands erasure of the proscribed limits of
interpretation. Anything goes.
Always struck me that the concept should be called "The Fallacy of
Intent" for clarity, but I didn't devise the term.
Ever consider that the physical appearance of words on the page impact
the brain? IOW, the shape of the word "brook," and its letters, not
its sound rolling from the lips. Poetry is always touted as a voiced
medium, but it is actually most often read by the eyes rather than
heard by the ears.
I could never sell a prof this concept, but I didn't try too hard.
Going sideways here.
I'm on your side with the KJ bible not belonging in Eng Lit, beautiful
English much of it is.
I did have it in World Lit.

--Vic


I think it would, technically fall under English lit, but it would probably
be more appropriate to discuss it and its implications in a theology class.

Perhaps a comparative lit class vs. an English lit class?

--
Nom=de=Plume

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On 10/9/09 5:18 PM, CalifBill wrote:
"Don wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:10:34 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:51:23 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:26:51 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:28:52 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of
Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. :)

I am drinking PBR these days. I have trouble finding regular Coors
in
a bottle, my other choice.
I used to always drink Bud but I just lost the taste for it and I
don't like the heavy beers.
I drink Busch if I can't find PBR or Coors.
I drink lots of water, and have been doing so for 22 years. Water's
not bad, but it's not a hot conversation topic. It doesn't get much
of
a head, and is usually pretty clear.
You must have had some of that crap they had from the Phillipines in
SEA.

San Miguel I think it was called? Had to strain it before you drank
it to get the crunchy bits out? :)
Well, yes. Actually I'd drink about anything that had an alcohol
content. Luckily, I had an Engineer company with dump trucks and a
First Sergeant who was a wheeler-dealer, and a Post Exchange at Cu Chi
that was always needing laterite for its swampy parking lot. So we
always had free beer and enough steaks for a Friday cookout.

Times were good.


For you maybe...while the real soldiers were out crawling through the
jungle getting shot at.
How does that make you feel Donny. Your friends and neighbors went to war
for you and some didn't come back.

Went to war for me?? I don't recall asking anyone to do such a thing.


Tell that to the survivors and widows of those at Sword Beach. Asshole!



Implicity in the statement that someone "went to war" for someone else
is that the war in question prevented something horrific from happening
to those in the home land or its territories.

The Vietnam war led to the death of 50,000 Americans, 1,000,000 Asians,
and serious injuries to tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.

There was nothing going on there that required that sort of sacrifice on
either side.

We took over from the French, who were nothing more than exploitative
colonialists. The French went back into Vietnam after being chased out
during WW II by the Japanese. The Vietnamese thought they were going to
become independent after WW II.

What did we do in Vietnam? We propped up a right-wing dictatorship for a
while, a government so corrupt Buddhist monks set themselves on fire in
protest.

Our military establishment was gleeful about Vietnam. It allowed for
officer promotions, it allowed for a buildup in men and materiel, and it
kept a bunch of lying assholes in the officer ranks in uniform.








--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:49:36 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Anybody who has ever had a Dixie pretty much agree. It's like the beer
world's version of the soda world's Moxie.

You had to aguire a taste for it.

Moxie, yeech! It started as a patent medicine. The only thing worse, I
can think of, is celery soda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie

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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:55:03 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:37:13 -0400, H the K
wrote:

On 10/9/09 11:28 AM, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:33:33 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

And we discussed many other things in English Lit than just English Lit

Well, then, what you had was some sort of Socratic Dialog or Seminar,
not an organized class. A proper class has an approved syllabus and
the instructor sticks with that syllabus to make sure the course
objectives are met. A class entitled one thing in which all things are
taught is just a free-for-all.... usually driven by the personal
whims and interests of the teacher. This is the equivalent of
education by ADD........


Uh, I disagree. In the 7th and 8th grade, when we were discussing
Dickens in English class, we also discussed the society in which the
novels were set, and some of the reasons why Dickens chose the subjects
he did. I'm sure we stuck with the teaching plan by doing so.

Uh.... no, we don't disagree and the teaching plan likely included the
social conditions of the novel. As I posted earlier:

"The study of Literature should or could encompass the following
points:

1. The body of written works of a language, period, or culture.
2. ........"

thus, "the society" is fair game. Reading NON-English Literature in
English Lit is NOT fair game and, certainly, "And we discussed many
other things in English Lit than just English Lit" is just hosed.


Profs build many frameworks around lit interpretation, including
psychological. Comparisons to current culture always rightfully
intrude for context, even if the prof doesn't want it to.
Human nature.
As you said though, a syllabus prevents a free-for-all.
When you get to Practical Criticism at the college level it all
becomes a bit metaphysical, with definitions and constraints blurring.
At least it did to me.
The Intentional Fallacy demands erasure of the proscribed limits of
interpretation. Anything goes.
Always struck me that the concept should be called "The Fallacy of
Intent" for clarity, but I didn't devise the term.
Ever consider that the physical appearance of words on the page impact
the brain? IOW, the shape of the word "brook," and its letters, not
its sound rolling from the lips. Poetry is always touted as a voiced
medium, but it is actually most often read by the eyes rather than
heard by the ears.
I could never sell a prof this concept, but I didn't try too hard.
Going sideways here.
I'm on your side with the KJ bible not belonging in Eng Lit, beautiful
English much of it is.
I did have it in World Lit.

--Vic

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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:10:34 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:51:23 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:26:51 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:28:52 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of
Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. :)

I am drinking PBR these days. I have trouble finding regular Coors
in
a bottle, my other choice.
I used to always drink Bud but I just lost the taste for it and I
don't like the heavy beers.
I drink Busch if I can't find PBR or Coors.
I drink lots of water, and have been doing so for 22 years. Water's
not bad, but it's not a hot conversation topic. It doesn't get much
of
a head, and is usually pretty clear.
You must have had some of that crap they had from the Phillipines in
SEA.

San Miguel I think it was called? Had to strain it before you drank
it to get the crunchy bits out? :)
Well, yes. Actually I'd drink about anything that had an alcohol
content. Luckily, I had an Engineer company with dump trucks and a
First Sergeant who was a wheeler-dealer, and a Post Exchange at Cu Chi
that was always needing laterite for its swampy parking lot. So we
always had free beer and enough steaks for a Friday cookout.

Times were good.


For you maybe...while the real soldiers were out crawling through the
jungle getting shot at.
How does that make you feel Donny. Your friends and neighbors went to
war for you and some didn't come back.

Went to war for me?? I don't recall asking anyone to do such a thing.


Tell that to the survivors and widows of those at Sword Beach. Asshole!

I know it's Friday night...but ease up on the booze.
We're talking Vietnam... I wasn't even born until 4 years after the end of
WW2

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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:10:34 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:51:23 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:26:51 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:28:52 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. :)


I am drinking PBR these days. I have trouble finding regular Coors in
a bottle, my other choice.
I used to always drink Bud but I just lost the taste for it and I
don't like the heavy beers.
I drink Busch if I can't find PBR or Coors.

I drink lots of water, and have been doing so for 22 years. Water's
not bad, but it's not a hot conversation topic. It doesn't get much of
a head, and is usually pretty clear.

You must have had some of that crap they had from the Phillipines in
SEA.

San Miguel I think it was called? Had to strain it before you drank
it to get the crunchy bits out? :)

Well, yes. Actually I'd drink about anything that had an alcohol
content. Luckily, I had an Engineer company with dump trucks and a
First Sergeant who was a wheeler-dealer, and a Post Exchange at Cu Chi
that was always needing laterite for its swampy parking lot. So we
always had free beer and enough steaks for a Friday cookout.

Times were good.


For you maybe...while the real soldiers were out crawling through the
jungle getting shot at.


They were all real soldiers. Even those of us who never saw combat. We
all had the possibility of going there. Some just got a better gig. Now
you who worked at a crappy job you hated for 30 years or so, is an example
of **** poor choices.

Who said they had a crappy job?
You really do seem to have a problem with comprehension let alone writing.

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On Oct 9, 2:51*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:





On Oct 9, 12:44*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

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"John H" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:10:34 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:51:23 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:26:51 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:28:52 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone..

Go figure. *:)

I am drinking PBR these days. I have trouble finding regular Coors in
a bottle, my other choice.
I used to always drink Bud but I just lost the taste for it and I
don't like the heavy beers.
I drink Busch if I can't find PBR or Coors.

I drink lots of water, and have been doing so for 22 years. Water's
not bad, but it's not a hot conversation topic. It doesn't get much of
a head, and is usually pretty clear.

You must have had some of that crap they had from the Phillipines in
SEA.

San Miguel I think it was called? *Had to strain it before you drank
it to get the crunchy bits out? *:)

Well, yes. Actually I'd drink about anything that had an alcohol
content. Luckily, I had an Engineer company with dump trucks and a
First Sergeant who was a wheeler-dealer, and a Post Exchange at Cu Chi
that was always needing laterite for its swampy parking lot. So we
always had free beer and enough steaks for a Friday cookout.

Times were good.

For you maybe...while the real soldiers were out crawling through the
jungle getting shot at.

They were all real soldiers. *Even those of us who never saw combat. We all
had the possibility of going there. *Some just got a better gig. *

When i think of combatant warriors, for some odd reason I think of
Lacy J. Dalton singing the origional version of "16th Avenue."

From the corners of the country
From the cities and the farms
With years and years of living
Tucked up underneath their arms

They walk away from everything
Just to see a dream come true
So God bless the boys who make the noise
On 16th Avenue

With a million dollar spirit
And an old flattop guitar
They drive to town with all they own
In a hundred dollar car

‘Cause one time someone told them
About a friend of a friend they knew
Who owns, you know, a studio
On 16th Avenue

Now some were born to money
They’ve never had to say “Survive”
And others swing a 9 pound hammer
Just to stay alive

There’s cowboys drunks and Christians
Mostly white and black and blue
They’ve all dialed the phone collect to home
From 16th Avenue

Ah, but then one night in some empty room
Where no curtains ever hung
Like a miracle some golden words
Rolled off of someone’s tongue

And after years of being nothing
They’re all looking right at you
And for a while they’ll go in style
On 16th Avenue

It looked so uneventful
So quiet and discreet
But a lot of lives where changed
Down on that little one way street

‘Cause they walk away from everything
Just to see a dream come true
So God bless the boys who make the noise
On 16th Avenue

Where's the part about kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out? *:)- Hide quoted text -

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Isn't that a Marine theme?

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On Oct 9, 5:29*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"CalifBill" wrote in message

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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:10:34 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:51:23 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:26:51 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:28:52 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Anyway, I went out and bought a case of Sam Adams lager, case of
Bud
and a case of Pabst Red, White and Blue.

I had half a case of Sam, 3/4 case of Bud and the Pabst was gone.

Go figure. *:)

I am drinking PBR these days. I have trouble finding regular Coors
in
a bottle, my other choice.
I used to always drink Bud but I just lost the taste for it and I
don't like the heavy beers.
I drink Busch if I can't find PBR or Coors.
I drink lots of water, and have been doing so for 22 years. Water's
not bad, but it's not a hot conversation topic. It doesn't get much
of
a head, and is usually pretty clear.
You must have had some of that crap they had from the Phillipines in
SEA.

San Miguel I think it was called? *Had to strain it before you drank
it to get the crunchy bits out? *:)
Well, yes. Actually I'd drink about anything that had an alcohol
content. Luckily, I had an Engineer company with dump trucks and a
First Sergeant who was a wheeler-dealer, and a Post Exchange at Cu Chi
that was always needing laterite for its swampy parking lot. So we
always had free beer and enough steaks for a Friday cookout.

Times were good.

For you maybe...while the real soldiers were out crawling through the
jungle getting shot at.
How does that make you feel Donny. Your friends and neighbors went to
war for you and some didn't come back.

Went to war for me?? *I don't recall asking anyone to do such a thing.

Tell that to the survivors and widows of those at Sword Beach. *Asshole!

I know it's Friday night...but ease up on the booze.
We're talking Vietnam... I wasn't even born until 4 years after the end of
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Actually Don, we were talking about bok reports until the side sway fo
the thread. You never know what direction a starting post thread will
head, though.

But back on the brew. Wasn't there also one called "Beck's"?

I don't know if it was regional or not.