vatican astronomer blasts creationism
 

On Oct 8, 6:49*am, H K wrote:
On 10/8/09 7:43 AM, H K wrote:



On 10/8/09 2:33 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:59:42 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

Let religion put up a
cross, menora, etc on public property. The people own the property.

How would you feel about Muslim or Rastafarian religious symbols in
your town square?

The problem is that once you start you can't say no to the next group,
and you can't say no to bigger and better.

Since I am an semi agnostic married to a Catholic, I can accept all
religions putting up displays in the town square. I was married by a
Monsignor in a Catholic Church with a JW best man, and a Jewish usher..
Locally the Jewish community puts up a Menorah during their holidays,
and
Christians put up Christmas Displays during their holidays, and we have
had different religions also. Seems to work fine. I believe there may be
a higher power, but not sure what it is. May be the Flying Spaghetti
Monster.

Who gets to decide what symbol gets put up? You can say... oh, let the
locals decided, but how do you deal with the various minority views
that are
inevitable? It can't be a simple majority, because it's the obligation of
the majority to protect the rights of the minority. If you put a cross or
spire, you're basically promoting a religion, which without much of a
stretch is prohibiting others from doing so. You're taking sides. The
simplest thing to do is to prohibit all symbols.

I think extreme vigilance is necessary to make sure the religious right
doesn't turn this country into the christian theocracy it so fervently
wants.

This is what the religious righties want:

http://tinyurl.com/ybwkffz

Really? Is that what I want? Harry, I'm glad you know more about what
I want than I do.

Somebody needs to.

vatican astronomer blasts creationism
 

On 10/8/09 8:08 AM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 8, 6:49 am, H wrote:
On 10/8/09 7:43 AM, H K wrote:



On 10/8/09 2:33 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:59:42 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

Let religion put up a
cross, menora, etc on public property. The people own the property.

How would you feel about Muslim or Rastafarian religious symbols in
your town square?

The problem is that once you start you can't say no to the next group,
and you can't say no to bigger and better.

Since I am an semi agnostic married to a Catholic, I can accept all
religions putting up displays in the town square. I was married by a
Monsignor in a Catholic Church with a JW best man, and a Jewish usher.
Locally the Jewish community puts up a Menorah during their holidays,
and
Christians put up Christmas Displays during their holidays, and we have
had different religions also. Seems to work fine. I believe there may be
a higher power, but not sure what it is. May be the Flying Spaghetti
Monster.

Who gets to decide what symbol gets put up? You can say... oh, let the
locals decided, but how do you deal with the various minority views
that are
inevitable? It can't be a simple majority, because it's the obligation of
the majority to protect the rights of the minority. If you put a cross or
spire, you're basically promoting a religion, which without much of a
stretch is prohibiting others from doing so. You're taking sides. The
simplest thing to do is to prohibit all symbols.

I think extreme vigilance is necessary to make sure the religious right
doesn't turn this country into the christian theocracy it so fervently
wants.

This is what the religious righties want:

http://tinyurl.com/ybwkffz

Really? Is that what I want? Harry, I'm glad you know more about what
I want than I do.

Somebody needs to.


I read your AOL emails... :)

Actually, Tim, you're about the only "religious" rightie here whose
opinions I respect. Go figure.








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vatican astronomer blasts creationism
 

On Oct 8, 7:14*am, H the K wrote:
On 10/8/09 8:08 AM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 8, 6:49 am, H *wrote:
On 10/8/09 7:43 AM, H K wrote:

On 10/8/09 2:33 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
*wrote in message
news:Ee6dncFb4PIzHlDXnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@earthlin k.com...

*wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:59:42 -0700, "CalifBill"
*wrote:

Let religion put up a
cross, menora, etc on public property. The people own the property.

How would you feel about Muslim or Rastafarian religious symbols in
your town square?

The problem is that once you start you can't say no to the next group,
and you can't say no to bigger and better.

Since I am an semi agnostic married to a Catholic, I can accept all
religions putting up displays in the town square. I was married by a
Monsignor in a Catholic Church with a JW best man, and a Jewish usher.
Locally the Jewish community puts up a Menorah during their holidays,
and
Christians put up Christmas Displays during their holidays, and we have
had different religions also. Seems to work fine. I believe there may be
a higher power, but not sure what it is. May be the Flying Spaghetti
Monster.

Who gets to decide what symbol gets put up? You can say... oh, let the
locals decided, but how do you deal with the various minority views
that are
inevitable? It can't be a simple majority, because it's the obligation of
the majority to protect the rights of the minority. If you put a cross or
spire, you're basically promoting a religion, which without much of a
stretch is prohibiting others from doing so. You're taking sides. The
simplest thing to do is to prohibit all symbols.

I think extreme vigilance is necessary to make sure the religious right
doesn't turn this country into the christian theocracy it so fervently
wants.

This is what the religious righties want:

http://tinyurl.com/ybwkffz

Really? Is that what I want? Harry, I'm glad you know more about what
I want than I do.

Somebody needs to.

I read your AOL emails... * * :)

Actually, Tim, you're about the only "religious" rightie here whose
opinions I respect. Go figure.

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Thanks Harry.

?;^ )

vatican astronomer blasts creationism
 

In article ,
says...

What a
hero.



Hummm, it is one of the OG posters / posers....

vatican astronomer blasts creationism
 

In article 3b7149f8-8a92-4537-bae0-
, says...

On Oct 8, 7:14*am, H the K wrote:
On 10/8/09 8:08 AM, Tim wrote:



On Oct 8, 6:49 am, H *wrote:
On 10/8/09 7:43 AM, H K wrote:

On 10/8/09 2:33 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
*wrote in message
news:Ee6dncFb4PIzHlDXnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@earthlin k.com...

*wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:59:42 -0700, "CalifBill"
*wrote:

Let religion put up a
cross, menora, etc on public property. The people own the property.

How would you feel about Muslim or Rastafarian religious symbols in
your town square?

The problem is that once you start you can't say no to the next group,
and you can't say no to bigger and better.

Since I am an semi agnostic married to a Catholic, I can accept all
religions putting up displays in the town square. I was married by a
Monsignor in a Catholic Church with a JW best man, and a Jewish usher.
Locally the Jewish community puts up a Menorah during their holidays,
and
Christians put up Christmas Displays during their holidays, and we have
had different religions also. Seems to work fine. I believe there may be
a higher power, but not sure what it is. May be the Flying Spaghetti
Monster.

Who gets to decide what symbol gets put up? You can say... oh, let the
locals decided, but how do you deal with the various minority views
that are
inevitable? It can't be a simple majority, because it's the obligation of
the majority to protect the rights of the minority. If you put a cross or
spire, you're basically promoting a religion, which without much of a
stretch is prohibiting others from doing so. You're taking sides. The
simplest thing to do is to prohibit all symbols.

I think extreme vigilance is necessary to make sure the religious right
doesn't turn this country into the christian theocracy it so fervently
wants.

This is what the religious righties want:

http://tinyurl.com/ybwkffz

Really? Is that what I want? Harry, I'm glad you know more about what
I want than I do.

Somebody needs to.

I read your AOL emails... * * :)

Actually, Tim, you're about the only "religious" rightie here whose
opinions I respect. Go figure.

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Thanks Harry.

?;^ )

You gotta' be kidding me Tim... He will suck up to you until you get
sick of him like Tom, Dick, and dozens if not hundreds of others here
over the years.. The man is a gutless wonder, and only says what he
thinks will garner him more attention... WAFA

vatican astronomer blasts creationism
 

On 10/8/09 10:23 AM, Tosk wrote:



You gotta' be kidding me Tim... He will suck up to you until you get
sick of him like Tom, Dick, and dozens if not hundreds of others here
over the years.. The man is a gutless wonder, and only says what he
thinks will garner him more attention... WAFA


Scotty Ingersoll by any other handle still smells like ****.


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vatican astronomer blasts creationism
 

"Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

What a
hero.



Hummm, it is one of the OG posters / posers....


What's OG? What's a Tosk?

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vatican astronomer blasts creationism
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"CalifBill" wrote in message
m...
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:59:42 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

Let religion put up a
cross, menora, etc on public property. The people own the property.
How would you feel about Muslim or Rastafarian religious symbols in
your town square?

The problem is that once you start you can't say no to the next group,
and you can't say no to bigger and better.

Since I am an semi agnostic married to a Catholic, I can accept all
religions putting up displays in the town square. I was married by a
Monsignor in a Catholic Church with a JW best man, and a Jewish usher.
Locally the Jewish community puts up a Menorah during their holidays,
and Christians put up Christmas Displays during their holidays, and we
have had different religions also. Seems to work fine. I believe there
may be a higher power, but not sure what it is. May be the Flying
Spaghetti Monster.



Who gets to decide what symbol gets put up? You can say... oh, let the
locals decided, but how do you deal with the various minority views that
are inevitable? It can't be a simple majority, because it's the
obligation of the majority to protect the rights of the minority. If you
put a cross or spire, you're basically promoting a religion, which
without much of a stretch is prohibiting others from doing so. You're
taking sides. The simplest thing to do is to prohibit all symbols.

MINORITY VIEWS DON'T TRANSLATE TO MINORITY RIGHTS. HOW ARE MINORITY RIGHTS
ANY DIFFERENT FROM MAJORITY RIGHTS. ANSWER THIS SWEETIE. HOW HAS
AFIRMATIVE ACTION AFFECTED THE WHITE MANS RIGHT TO COMPETE FOR A JOB.
You are so full of crap. Majority rules in the Supreme Court. Majority
voted in a president I didn't and don't want. Are there federal laws
prohibiting religeous symbols on private or public property? We let
Congress critters decide major issues by writing laws and voting on them.
And guess what, majority rules. How well is that going for us? I suppose
that depends on who you ask.


I really don't like your condescending bs. Get a life. If you can't speak
without yelling or trying to put me "in my place," you have no business in a
rational discussion. It's totally obnoxious.

The majority has the responsibility to protect the rights of the minority.
If you don't believe that, then you're not much of an American.


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vatican astronomer blasts creationism
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"CalifBill" wrote in message
m...
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:59:42 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

Let religion put up a
cross, menora, etc on public property. The people own the property.
How would you feel about Muslim or Rastafarian religious symbols in
your town square?

The problem is that once you start you can't say no to the next group,
and you can't say no to bigger and better.

Since I am an semi agnostic married to a Catholic, I can accept all
religions putting up displays in the town square. I was married by a
Monsignor in a Catholic Church with a JW best man, and a Jewish usher.
Locally the Jewish community puts up a Menorah during their holidays,
and Christians put up Christmas Displays during their holidays, and we
have had different religions also. Seems to work fine. I believe there
may be a higher power, but not sure what it is. May be the Flying
Spaghetti Monster.



Who gets to decide what symbol gets put up? You can say... oh, let the
locals decided, but how do you deal with the various minority views that
are inevitable? It can't be a simple majority, because it's the
obligation of the majority to protect the rights of the minority. If you
put a cross or spire, you're basically promoting a religion, which
without much of a stretch is prohibiting others from doing so. You're
taking sides. The simplest thing to do is to prohibit all symbols.

MINORITY VIEWS DON'T TRANSLATE TO MINORITY RIGHTS. HOW ARE MINORITY RIGHTS
ANY DIFFERENT FROM MAJORITY RIGHTS. ANSWER THIS SWEETIE. HOW HAS
AFIRMATIVE ACTION AFFECTED THE WHITE MANS RIGHT TO COMPETE FOR A JOB.
You are so full of crap. Majority rules in the Supreme Court. Majority
voted in a president I didn't and don't want. Are there federal laws
prohibiting religeous symbols on private or public property? We let
Congress critters decide major issues by writing laws and voting on them.
And guess what, majority rules. How well is that going for us? I suppose
that depends on who you ask.


In fact, I think you should just plonk me immediately, since you obviously
don't want to hear what I have to say. Go for it. Please.

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vatican astronomer blasts creationism
 

On 10/8/09 1:15 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
m...
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:59:42 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

Let religion put up a
cross, menora, etc on public property. The people own the property.
How would you feel about Muslim or Rastafarian religious symbols in
your town square?

The problem is that once you start you can't say no to the next group,
and you can't say no to bigger and better.

Since I am an semi agnostic married to a Catholic, I can accept all
religions putting up displays in the town square. I was married by a
Monsignor in a Catholic Church with a JW best man, and a Jewish usher.
Locally the Jewish community puts up a Menorah during their holidays,
and Christians put up Christmas Displays during their holidays, and we
have had different religions also. Seems to work fine. I believe there
may be a higher power, but not sure what it is. May be the Flying
Spaghetti Monster.



Who gets to decide what symbol gets put up? You can say... oh, let the
locals decided, but how do you deal with the various minority views that
are inevitable? It can't be a simple majority, because it's the
obligation of the majority to protect the rights of the minority. If you
put a cross or spire, you're basically promoting a religion, which
without much of a stretch is prohibiting others from doing so. You're
taking sides. The simplest thing to do is to prohibit all symbols.

MINORITY VIEWS DON'T TRANSLATE TO MINORITY RIGHTS. HOW ARE MINORITY RIGHTS
ANY DIFFERENT FROM MAJORITY RIGHTS. ANSWER THIS SWEETIE. HOW HAS
AFIRMATIVE ACTION AFFECTED THE WHITE MANS RIGHT TO COMPETE FOR A JOB.
You are so full of crap. Majority rules in the Supreme Court. Majority
voted in a president I didn't and don't want. Are there federal laws
prohibiting religeous symbols on private or public property? We let
Congress critters decide major issues by writing laws and voting on them.
And guess what, majority rules. How well is that going for us? I suppose
that depends on who you ask.


I really don't like your condescending bs. Get a life. If you can't speak
without yelling or trying to put me "in my place," you have no business in a
rational discussion. It's totally obnoxious.

The majority has the responsibility to protect the rights of the minority.
If you don't believe that, then you're not much of an American.




Flajim's wife, if he has one, probably beats the crap out of him...thus,
he lashes out at...you.



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