On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:04:31 -0400, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:18:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.
Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H
That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.

So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is preferable
to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target. FYI,
no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.
Three Pontoons is so daft he doesn't realize there's not even a
handful of liberals in congress.

Again, you're wasting your time with him.


Three pontoons?

That would be Jack, Sweetie. He is one of the good guys.

Now you'll totally confuse our friend.
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John H

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:17:11 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:04:31 -0400, Jim wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:18:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.
Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H
That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.

So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is preferable
to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target. FYI,
no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.
Three Pontoons is so daft he doesn't realize there's not even a
handful of liberals in congress.

Again, you're wasting your time with him.


Three pontoons?

That would be Jack, Sweetie. He is one of the good guys.

Now you'll totally confuse our friend.

Three pontoons (he owns a platform built on pontoons with a motor on
the back) is what we refer to as a dim bulb.

The Dems didn't convince anyone "lib=good." It was the Republicans
who convinced everyone that "conservatives = bad."

They've co-opted the definition of conservative. It now means greedy,
selfish, protector of corporate welfare, evangelical, two-faced,
family values (ha!), liar.

The Dems just had to stand there with their hands in their pockets
while the Reps destroyed their party and damned near the country.

Idiots. Three Pontoons is a perfect example of their stupidity.

"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:17:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 10:53 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

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On Sep 22, 9:18 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:





"Jack" wrote in message

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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will
blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it
by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H
That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.

So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is
preferable
to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target.
FYI,
no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.

That's a pretty large leap you took... hope you didn't hurt yourself.

Jack, they're words... just words. lol

Still a huge leap. lol


Two things are for sure... if the Dems want to pass a health care
bill, the Republicans can't stop them.

Unlike Republicans, Democrats are much less monolithic. Think Will
Roger's
comments about party affiliation.

All the more reason to blame the Dems if it doesn't get passed, eh?

Both sides get blame. The Republicans are making a lot of noise and not
contributing to an intelligent discussion. Perhaps that's why they're
getting most of the blame. The Democrats can't, as usual, get their act
together, even though most have the best interest of the country in mind.
Thus, they get less blame. Obama hasn't been forceful enough. Thus, he
gets
some blame too.


And those 37% of the people
that will blame the Republicans if a bill isn't passed are not too
smart, are liberals, or both. After all, conservatives aren't going
to "blame" Republicans if a bill they don't want isn't passed...
they'd give them, and the Dems that came to their senses the *credit*
for it not passing, right?

Perhaps they're clinging to their guns and bibles.

That's an idiot statement. You're full of the koolaid, aren't you.

Jeeeze... I gave you the gun, I gave you the bullet, and you shot yourself
in the foot. It was a quote from Obama for God's Sake!

It was a national poll.
The same people elected Obama and the Dem. Congress, and yes even the
Republicans in Congress.

Yep... and out of the ~51% that installed BO, only 37% would blame
Republicans for the Dem's failure. Sounds like the liberals are
really coming around on the farce they've been fed. LOL

Big clue... this is a representative democracy. If you don't like how
you're
being represented, vote. Obama won, the Dems won, and now you have to live
with it. You betcha.

A while back you commented that you didn't sound like Harry. You
should read this exchange.

You are becoming a clone of the guy.
--

John H


John, I can't help it if someone else says something that is factually
accurate and I happen to say the same thing.

FYI, I don't believe in cloning.


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Nom=de=Plume

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 23, 5:54 am, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:17:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"



wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 10:53 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

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On Sep 22, 9:18 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message

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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health
care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will
blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it
by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H
That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has*
to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.

So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is
preferable
to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target.
FYI,
no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.

That's a pretty large leap you took... hope you didn't hurt yourself.

Jack, they're words... just words. lol

Still a huge leap. lol

Two things are for sure... if the Dems want to pass a health care
bill, the Republicans can't stop them.

Unlike Republicans, Democrats are much less monolithic. Think Will
Roger's
comments about party affiliation.

All the more reason to blame the Dems if it doesn't get passed, eh?

Both sides get blame. The Republicans are making a lot of noise and not
contributing to an intelligent discussion. Perhaps that's why they're
getting most of the blame. The Democrats can't, as usual, get their act
together, even though most have the best interest of the country in mind.
Thus, they get less blame. Obama hasn't been forceful enough. Thus, he
gets
some blame too.

And those 37% of the people
that will blame the Republicans if a bill isn't passed are not too
smart, are liberals, or both. After all, conservatives aren't going
to "blame" Republicans if a bill they don't want isn't passed...
they'd give them, and the Dems that came to their senses the *credit*
for it not passing, right?

Perhaps they're clinging to their guns and bibles.

That's an idiot statement. You're full of the koolaid, aren't you.

Jeeeze... I gave you the gun, I gave you the bullet, and you shot
yourself
in the foot. It was a quote from Obama for God's Sake!

It was a national poll.
The same people elected Obama and the Dem. Congress, and yes even the
Republicans in Congress.

Yep... and out of the ~51% that installed BO, only 37% would blame
Republicans for the Dem's failure. Sounds like the liberals are
really coming around on the farce they've been fed. LOL

Big clue... this is a representative democracy. If you don't like how
you're
being represented, vote. Obama won, the Dems won, and now you have to
live
with it. You betcha.

A while back you commented that you didn't sound like Harry. You
should read this exchange.

You are becoming a clone of the guy.
--

John H

Plum's responses are non-responses, full of spin, non-sequiturs, and
even name calling when backed into a corner. I believe you've pegged
it, John.


Sure Jack. Whatever you say... Let me know when I'm "backed into a corner."
That's when the claws really come out.
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Nom=de=Plume

"Jim" wrote in message
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Jack wrote:

Plum's responses are non-responses, full of spin, non-sequiturs, and
even name calling when backed into a corner. I believe you've pegged
it, John.

In Sweeties own words (stomping her feet) " Now thats just plain rude"


Speak for yerself. I was thinking "Now that's just plain dumb."

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Nom=de=Plume

"Jack" wrote in message
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Unlike Republicans, Democrats are much less monolithic. Think Will
Roger's
comments about party affiliation.
All the more reason to blame the Dems if it doesn't get passed, eh?

Both sides get blame. The Republicans are making a lot of noise and not
contributing to an intelligent discussion. Perhaps that's why they're
getting most of the blame. The Democrats can't, as usual, get their act
together, even though most have the best interest of the country in mind.
Thus, they get less blame. Obama hasn't been forceful enough. Thus, he
gets
some blame too.

You're getting dizzy...

Perhaps, but what's that got to do with my comment?

Perhaps they're clinging to their guns and bibles.
That's an idiot statement. You're full of the koolaid, aren't you.

Jeeeze... I gave you the gun, I gave you the bullet, and you shot yourself
in the foot. It was a quote from Obama for God's Sake!

It was idiotic when he said it, and idiotic when you wrote it. He
shot himself in the foot when he said it. Besides, what are you doing
now, channeling BO? Have some more koolaid.

It was, but I was trying to lighten things up for you. (no analogy to
something filled with hot air intended).


It was a national poll.
The same people elected Obama and the Dem. Congress, and yes even the
Republicans in Congress.
Yep... and out of the ~51% that installed BO, only 37% would blame
Republicans for the Dem's failure. Sounds like the liberals are
really coming around on the farce they've been fed. LOL

Big clue... this is a representative democracy. If you don't like how
you're
being represented, vote. Obama won, the Dems won, and now you have to live
with it. You betcha.

Big clue... It's America, and I can point out the stupidity of the
left. Like you said, they can't even get their act together to pass a
bill when they have a fillibuster proof majority. Pitiful.

Still waiting for that, however. So far, you haven't pointed out much except
how the process works. Yes, it's pitiful their screwing around.

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Nom=de=Plume

"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:18:13 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:18:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will
blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H

That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.


So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is
preferable
to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target. FYI,
no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.

Three Pontoons is so daft he doesn't realize there's not even a
handful of liberals in congress.

Again, you're wasting your time with him.


Three pontoons?

It's a 'derogatory' term. Don't you just love the way Harry, jps, et
al, give you the personal background of folks? You should be more
appreciative of this. Those guys are trying to set you straight and
keep you out of trouble.

It's kind of like being invited to a party. The host (probably Krause)
brings you in the door and then introduces you to everyone - giving
you the little, snide background comments as you walk through the
room.

Don't you just love it?
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John H


Well, I think it's inappropriate. I haven't used derogatory observations (at
least not on this level) and I don't think others should. I never heard that
term before, so I thought I would ask.

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Nom=de=Plume

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 23, 5:59 am, JohnH wrote:
Three pontoons?

It's a 'derogatory' term.

But not much of one. It's an attempt to belittle my boat because it
doesn't fit his narrow definition of what a boat should be. Of
course, there's no evidence that jps even owns a boat. Just more
drivel from the narrow-minded, intolerant, boatless left. Oops, I
guess I just called plum a couple of names... sorry.


Reply: I think that definitely crosses the line. One should never insult
one's opponent's boat. You can insult his/her spouse. Say mean things about
their kids. Call them commies, but stay away from a person's boat. lol

Sort of like your second sentence I guess. lol

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Nom=de=Plume

"Jim" wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:18:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will
blame
President Obama.
Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H
That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.

So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is
preferable to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target.
FYI, no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.
Three Pontoons is so daft he doesn't realize there's not even a
handful of liberals in congress.

Again, you're wasting your time with him.


Three pontoons?

That would be Jack, Sweetie. He is one of the good guys.


The jury is still out on that... Jimmy Bob. lol

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Nom=de=Plume

"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:16:42 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:


The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H


It? Was a specific bill mentioned? Try reading the post again...

Babyish. You should be able to figure 'it' out without a problem. Read
the post a few times.

So how did Harry entice you to join us?
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John H


No bill has been passed or even voted on. You just grouped "possible" bills
together. Thus, "it" has no meaning.

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Nom=de=Plume