"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 9:18 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:





On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H
That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.

So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is preferable
to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target. FYI,
no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.


That's a pretty large leap you took... hope you didn't hurt yourself.

Jack, they're words... just words. lol

Two things are for sure... if the Dems want to pass a health care
bill, the Republicans can't stop them.

Unlike Republicans, Democrats are much less monolithic. Think Will Roger's
comments about party affiliation.

And those 37% of the people
that will blame the Republicans if a bill isn't passed are not too
smart, are liberals, or both. After all, conservatives aren't going
to "blame" Republicans if a bill they don't want isn't passed...
they'd give them, and the Dems that came to their senses the *credit*
for it not passing, right?

Perhaps they're clinging to their guns and bibles. It was a national poll.
The same people elected Obama and the Dem. Congress, and yes even the
Republicans in Congress.

Think about it.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:01:32 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:50:14 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:13:55 -0400, JohnH
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:


The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.

No one said the Democrats were blaming the Republicans.

It said the citizens of the United States were going to blame the
Republicans for failing to deliver health care reform at a rate of 2:1
over Democrats.

Think that's going to help get seats back for the party of the rich?

Go back and read. I didn't say Democrats were blaming Republicans, and
I didn't say Democrats were stupid. (I'd *never* say something like
that.)

It was stupid for anyone to blame congressional Republicans. The
Democrats could pass the bill on their own. If it doesn't pass, then
*only* the Democrats should be blamed.

In other words, if it passes, blame the Democrats. If it doesn't,
blame the Democrats. It's their baby, just like the Afghan war,
'bama's 'War of Necessity'. (Whoops!)

Well, I guess we can count you in the 16%. As if we didn't know that.

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:18:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H

That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.


So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is preferable to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target. FYI, no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.

Three Pontoons is so daft he doesn't realize there's not even a
handful of liberals in congress.

Again, you're wasting your time with him.

On Sep 22, 10:53*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

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On Sep 22, 9:18 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:





"Jack" wrote in message

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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H
That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.

So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is preferable
to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target. FYI,
no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.

That's a pretty large leap you took... hope you didn't hurt yourself.

Jack, they're words... just words. lol

Still a huge leap. lol


Two things are for sure... if the Dems want to pass a health care
bill, the Republicans can't stop them.

Unlike Republicans, Democrats are much less monolithic. Think Will Roger's
comments about party affiliation.

All the more reason to blame the Dems if it doesn't get passed, eh?


And those 37% of the people
that will blame the Republicans if a bill isn't passed are not too
smart, are liberals, or both. *After all, conservatives aren't going
to "blame" Republicans if a bill they don't want isn't passed...
they'd give them, and the Dems that came to their senses the *credit*
for it not passing, right?

Perhaps they're clinging to their guns and bibles.

That's an idiot statement. You're full of the koolaid, aren't you.

It was a national poll.
The same people elected Obama and the Dem. Congress, and yes even the
Republicans in Congress.

Yep... and out of the ~51% that installed BO, only 37% would blame
Republicans for the Dem's failure. Sounds like the liberals are
really coming around on the farce they've been fed. LOL

On Sep 22, 11:11*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:18:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"



wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H

That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. *It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. *It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. *Such maroons.

So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is preferable to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target. FYI, no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.

Three Pontoons is so daft he doesn't realize there's not even a
handful of liberals in congress.

Again, you're wasting your time with him.

Hey, it's not my fault your chosen party probably won't be able to
corral their own members into passing a health care bill while they
are in control.

Also not my fault that your party's voting block isn't savvy enough to
understand the statement above, so many continue to blame all their
problems on conservatives.

I'll admit, you guys have done one hell of a sales job on about 50% of
the sheeple to convince them that libs = good, conservatives = bad.
But from this very poll's results, as well as BO's popularity polls,
the sheep are getting wiser by the minute. The magic is about to run
out. Good stuff.

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 10:53 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

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On Sep 22, 9:18 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:





"Jack" wrote in message

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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will
blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H
That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.

So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is
preferable
to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target. FYI,
no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.

That's a pretty large leap you took... hope you didn't hurt yourself.

Jack, they're words... just words. lol

Still a huge leap. lol


Two things are for sure... if the Dems want to pass a health care
bill, the Republicans can't stop them.

Unlike Republicans, Democrats are much less monolithic. Think Will Roger's
comments about party affiliation.

All the more reason to blame the Dems if it doesn't get passed, eh?

Both sides get blame. The Republicans are making a lot of noise and not
contributing to an intelligent discussion. Perhaps that's why they're
getting most of the blame. The Democrats can't, as usual, get their act
together, even though most have the best interest of the country in mind.
Thus, they get less blame. Obama hasn't been forceful enough. Thus, he gets
some blame too.


And those 37% of the people
that will blame the Republicans if a bill isn't passed are not too
smart, are liberals, or both. After all, conservatives aren't going
to "blame" Republicans if a bill they don't want isn't passed...
they'd give them, and the Dems that came to their senses the *credit*
for it not passing, right?

Perhaps they're clinging to their guns and bibles.

That's an idiot statement. You're full of the koolaid, aren't you.

Jeeeze... I gave you the gun, I gave you the bullet, and you shot yourself
in the foot. It was a quote from Obama for God's Sake!

It was a national poll.
The same people elected Obama and the Dem. Congress, and yes even the
Republicans in Congress.

Yep... and out of the ~51% that installed BO, only 37% would blame
Republicans for the Dem's failure. Sounds like the liberals are
really coming around on the farce they've been fed. LOL

Big clue... this is a representative democracy. If you don't like how you're
being represented, vote. Obama won, the Dems won, and now you have to live
with it. You betcha.

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Nom=de=Plume

"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:18:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H

That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.


So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is preferable
to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target. FYI,
no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.

Three Pontoons is so daft he doesn't realize there's not even a
handful of liberals in congress.

Again, you're wasting your time with him.


Three pontoons?

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Nom=de=Plume

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 11:11 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:18:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"



wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H

That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.

So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is preferable
to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target. FYI,
no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.

Three Pontoons is so daft he doesn't realize there's not even a
handful of liberals in congress.

Again, you're wasting your time with him.

Hey, it's not my fault your chosen party probably won't be able to
corral their own members into passing a health care bill while they
are in control.

But I can blame you if I want! This is America.

Also not my fault that your party's voting block isn't savvy enough to
understand the statement above, so many continue to blame all their
problems on conservatives.

So, a conservative is someone who cowtows to the big insurance companies? Or
are you talking about Republicans, who didn't lift a finger when Bush spent
like crazy?

I'll admit, you guys have done one hell of a sales job on about 50% of
the sheeple to convince them that libs = good, conservatives = bad.
But from this very poll's results, as well as BO's popularity polls,
the sheep are getting wiser by the minute. The magic is about to run
out. Good stuff.

We'll see when the next election happens. Unless you have other plans...

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Nom=de=Plume

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:20:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 11:11 pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:18:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"



wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Sep 22, 8:13 pm, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H

That demonstrates just how silly those liberals are. It just *has* to
be someone else's fault. It's all about their lack of personal
responsibility. Such maroons.

So, you're claiming that saying no to just about everything is preferable
to
trying to help people. Sounds to me the people are right on target. FYI,
no
mention of "liberals" in the poll.

Three Pontoons is so daft he doesn't realize there's not even a
handful of liberals in congress.

Again, you're wasting your time with him.

Hey, it's not my fault your chosen party probably won't be able to
corral their own members into passing a health care bill while they
are in control.

But I can blame you if I want! This is America.

Also not my fault that your party's voting block isn't savvy enough to
understand the statement above, so many continue to blame all their
problems on conservatives.

So, a conservative is someone who cowtows to the big insurance companies? Or
are you talking about Republicans, who didn't lift a finger when Bush spent
like crazy?

I'll admit, you guys have done one hell of a sales job on about 50% of
the sheeple to convince them that libs = good, conservatives = bad.
But from this very poll's results, as well as BO's popularity polls,
the sheep are getting wiser by the minute. The magic is about to run
out. Good stuff.

We'll see when the next election happens. Unless you have other plans...

Three pontoons (he owns a platform built on pontoons with a motor on
the back) is what we refer to as a dim bulb.

The Dems didn't convince anyone "lib=good." It was the Republicans
who convinced everyone that "conservatives = bad."

They've co-opted the definition of conservative. It now means greedy,
selfish, protector of corporate welfare, evangelical, two-faced,
family values (ha!), liar.

The Dems just had to stand there with their hands in their pockets
while the Reps destroyed their party and damned near the country.

Idiots. Three Pontoons is a perfect example of their stupidity.

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:16:42 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:30:13 -0700, jps wrote:


The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that if health care
reform is not passed this year, 37% will blame congressional
Republicans, 16% will blame congressional Democrats and 10% will blame
President Obama.

Pretty stupid, huh?

If the Democrats consider it such a great bill, they should pass it by
themselves. No reason to blame Republicans.
--

John H


It? Was a specific bill mentioned? Try reading the post again...

Babyish. You should be able to figure 'it' out without a problem. Read
the post a few times.

So how did Harry entice you to join us?
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John H