Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is fullbenefits for illegal aliens
 

On Oct 1, 1:53*am, "CalifBill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

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On Sep 30, 11:14 am, BamaBrian wrote:





CalifBill wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Sep 29, 10:58 am, Bama Brian wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Sep 28, 4:48 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" rdsandman(spamlock)
@comcast.net wrote:
Perhaps.....but my experience is what I go on......perhaps when you
get
some instead of chugging down union koolaid.......
--
\
says the guy who thinks alfred e. newman is the 2nd coming of
christ...because there's nothing wrong in the US since the rich are
doing so well, courtesy of a middle class bailout
Since you argue by Ad Hominem and think it's valid, it's no wonder your
big job was "wet bench installer".

--

seems our resident expert on unions doesn't know what an engineer is.
no surprise. we work for a living

Hell of a difference between a field engineer and a design engineer. I
was
an FE while getting my degree in EE.

He's an engineer the same way that janitors are "Sanitation Engineers".

still can't tell us what an engineer is, eh?

Actually it depends on which states laws you reference. *Some states say you
have to have your PE registration to be called an engineer. *Others require
less, and some require nothing. * I had engineers with degrees and without
degrees working for and with me. *Some of each were good, and others sucked
as design engineers with even a Masters from Berkeley in Engineering. *But
there is a hell of difference between an FE and a design engineer and lots
of differences between FE's. *When I designed Disk Controllers for DEC
systems, there were 2 FE's in the country you did not want a call from. *One
a black FE in Florida and the other a biker guy from CA. *Both were among
the best FE's I have dealt with. *You knew if they called it was not a
hardware problem, it was a design bug and you were going to be on an
airplane shortly. *And most FE's from the 70's on were board swappers, not
good trouble shooters. *Because you could change 1/4 or more of a computer
with one board change. *They did not have to know how the system really
functioned like when we had 2 flip-flops on a board with discrete
transistors. *And hundreds of boards in a system. *I have an EE degree and
passed the EIT, but never worked in a position where I needed a PE
registration. *So never had a PE to sign off on my work as well as taking
the exam. *So some states I can not call myself an engineer legally.
Answer your question?

You just shorted a couple of transistors in wf3's brain... and he
doesn't have any to spare.

Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is fullbenefits for illegal aliens
 

On Oct 1, 9:07*pm, Jack wrote:
On Oct 1, 1:53*am, "CalifBill" wrote:





"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 30, 11:14 am, BamaBrian wrote:

CalifBill wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 29, 10:58 am, Bama Brian wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Sep 28, 4:48 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" rdsandman(spamlock)
@comcast.net wrote:
Perhaps.....but my experience is what I go on......perhaps when you
get
some instead of chugging down union koolaid.......
--
\
says the guy who thinks alfred e. newman is the 2nd coming of
christ...because there's nothing wrong in the US since the rich are
doing so well, courtesy of a middle class bailout
Since you argue by Ad Hominem and think it's valid, it's no wonder your
big job was "wet bench installer".

--

seems our resident expert on unions doesn't know what an engineer is.
no surprise. we work for a living

Hell of a difference between a field engineer and a design engineer.. I
was
an FE while getting my degree in EE.

He's an engineer the same way that janitors are "Sanitation Engineers".

still can't tell us what an engineer is, eh?

Actually it depends on which states laws you reference. *Some states say you
have to have your PE registration to be called an engineer. *Others require
less, and some require nothing. * I had engineers with degrees and without
degrees working for and with me. *Some of each were good, and others sucked
as design engineers with even a Masters from Berkeley in Engineering. *But
there is a hell of difference between an FE and a design engineer and lots
of differences between FE's. *When I designed Disk Controllers for DEC
systems, there were 2 FE's in the country you did not want a call from. *One
a black FE in Florida and the other a biker guy from CA. *Both were among
the best FE's I have dealt with. *You knew if they called it was not a
hardware problem, it was a design bug and you were going to be on an
airplane shortly. *And most FE's from the 70's on were board swappers, not
good trouble shooters. *Because you could change 1/4 or more of a computer
with one board change. *They did not have to know how the system really
functioned like when we had 2 flip-flops on a board with discrete
transistors. *And hundreds of boards in a system. *I have an EE degree and
passed the EIT, but never worked in a position where I needed a PE
registration. *So never had a PE to sign off on my work as well as taking
the exam. *So some states I can not call myself an engineer legally.
Answer your question?

You just shorted a couple of transistors in wf3's brain... and he
doesn't have any to spare.-

IOW you have no response so figure an ad hominem would have to do

typical right winger

Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is full benefits for illegal aliens
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Oct 1, 9:07 pm, Jack wrote:
On Oct 1, 1:53 am, "CalifBill" wrote:





"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 30, 11:14 am, BamaBrian wrote:

CalifBill wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 29, 10:58 am, Bama Brian wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Sep 28, 4:48 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" rdsandman(spamlock)
@comcast.net wrote:
Perhaps.....but my experience is what I go on......perhaps when
you
get
some instead of chugging down union koolaid.......
--
\
says the guy who thinks alfred e. newman is the 2nd coming of
christ...because there's nothing wrong in the US since the rich
are
doing so well, courtesy of a middle class bailout
Since you argue by Ad Hominem and think it's valid, it's no wonder
your
big job was "wet bench installer".

--

seems our resident expert on unions doesn't know what an engineer
is.
no surprise. we work for a living

Hell of a difference between a field engineer and a design engineer.
I
was
an FE while getting my degree in EE.

He's an engineer the same way that janitors are "Sanitation
Engineers".

still can't tell us what an engineer is, eh?

Actually it depends on which states laws you reference. Some states say
you
have to have your PE registration to be called an engineer. Others
require
less, and some require nothing. I had engineers with degrees and without
degrees working for and with me. Some of each were good, and others
sucked
as design engineers with even a Masters from Berkeley in Engineering.
But
there is a hell of difference between an FE and a design engineer and
lots
of differences between FE's. When I designed Disk Controllers for DEC
systems, there were 2 FE's in the country you did not want a call from.
One
a black FE in Florida and the other a biker guy from CA. Both were among
the best FE's I have dealt with. You knew if they called it was not a
hardware problem, it was a design bug and you were going to be on an
airplane shortly. And most FE's from the 70's on were board swappers,
not
good trouble shooters. Because you could change 1/4 or more of a
computer
with one board change. They did not have to know how the system really
functioned like when we had 2 flip-flops on a board with discrete
transistors. And hundreds of boards in a system. I have an EE degree and
passed the EIT, but never worked in a position where I needed a PE
registration. So never had a PE to sign off on my work as well as taking
the exam. So some states I can not call myself an engineer legally.
Answer your question?

You just shorted a couple of transistors in wf3's brain... and he
doesn't have any to spare.-

IOW you have no response so figure an ad hominem would have to do

typical right winger

You a right winger. Your response was ad hominem ++.

Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is full benefits for illegal aliens
 

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:44:53 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote:

On Oct 1, 3:42*pm, AnAmericanCitizen wrote:
You should have titled this Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is
full benefits for illegal aliens at the expense of seniors who they are attempting to
cut at every turn.....AAC


guess you don't know the right is in favor of illegal immigration
because it gives them cheap labor.

That was my main complaint about President Bush who was in the pocket of the Chamber
of Commerce...Conservatives and other members of the Republican Party, along with
some really great America-first politicians in the House and Senate were instrumental
in beating back the numerous amnesty plans over the last three or four years...AAC

To each of you who waved a Mexican flag, cut school and demanded
"justice" please accept my heartfelt thanks. We’ve been trying to wake
up Americans for years; you did it overnight....Joe Guzzardi

"I have no problem with immigrants. My grandparents were
Dutch on one side and Irish on the other - but they came here legally,
through Ellis Island. What I can't stand are a bunch of fence-hopping,
river-wading illegals telling me I owe them a free education, free health
care and free transportation, then making me speak Spanish at every
restaurant, car wash and public school in the county. Making these people
citizens simply because they're here is like letting someone keep my car
just because he already stole it."...UNK (thanks Icon)

Never forget 1986:

In 1986 "we the people" were promised better enforcement, secure
borders and we now continue to find millions of illiterate, unskilled
workers flooding our cities,destroying our public education and social
service systems while few of the other provisions, including sanctions against
employers were enforced....J. McLaughlin

As California goes, so goes the rest of the country.

Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party,
"Remember 187--proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services
to non-citizens--was the last gasp of white America in California."

"California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't
like it should leave."....Mario Obledo, Democrat California Coalition
of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health,
Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the
Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton.

Richard Alatorre, Democrat, Los Angeles City Council. "They're
afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and
other institutions. They're right. We will take them over.
We are here to stay."

And then there's Jose Angel Gutierrez:

"We are the future of America. Unlike any prior generation,
we now have the critical mass. We’re going to Latinize this
country".....Jose Angel Gutierrez, political science professor
and former head of the Mexican-American Studies Center at the
University of Texas, Arlington

(Who earlier said, "We have got to eliminate the gringo, and
what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have
got to kill him.")

Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is fullbenefits for illegal aliens
 

On Oct 1, 3:44*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Oct 1, 3:42*pm, AnAmericanCitizen wrote:

You should have titled this Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is
full benefits for illegal aliens at the expense of seniors who they are attempting to
cut at every turn.....AAC

guess you don't know the right is in favor of illegal immigration
because it gives them cheap labor.

Exactly. You want to end illegal immigration? Then land on both feet
with firms that hire illegal immigrants.

But that won't happen, because it would inconvenience the rightards'
puppeteers. So they run around the border areas with their popguns
dreaming that they're accomplishing something.

Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is full benefits for illegal aliens
 

"Wilson Woods" wrote in message
m...
wf3h wrote:
On Sep 23, 1:42 pm, Wilson Woods wrote:
wf3h wrote:

says the guy who thinks obama's been president for 8 years
No, he doesn't. You just can't stop lying, can you? You're a
pathological liar.- Hide quoted text -


if this were true,

It is true.

Obama has not been President the last 8 years. You are even more stupid
than I thought.

Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is full benefits for illegal aliens
 

I suppose you're counting Hitler as a socialist, you silly dweeb.

Hitler declared himself to be a socialist.
And take a hairy-assed wild guess at what "Z" in the acronym NAZI stood
for.
"Socialist" in German.


So? George Bush called himself competent. Doesn't mean he was.

But thank you, for once again demonstrating that you REALLY are an
ignorant idiot.


You mean like someone who has his nose shoved so far up Bush's ass that he
can't see what a ****ty job he did for the last 8 years?

Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is full benefits for illegal aliens
 

"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
message ...
PC wrote:

I suppose you're counting Hitler as a socialist, you silly dweeb.


HITLER started as a Socialist and Morphed into a Totalitarian leader,
that is the usual path, Socialism takes away the right of the people so
government can create collectives. That makes it a small step for a
tyrant to come to power and steal a few more rights and rule with an
iron fist.


Chavez is doing exactly that in Venezuela
And the the idiot who got kicked out of Honduras was trying the same thing

Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is fullbenefits for illegal aliens
 

SaPeIsMa wrote:

"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
message ...
PC wrote:

I suppose you're counting Hitler as a socialist, you silly dweeb.


HITLER started as a Socialist and Morphed into a Totalitarian leader,
that is the usual path, Socialism takes away the right of the people so
government can create collectives. That makes it a small step for a
tyrant to come to power and steal a few more rights and rule with an
iron fist.


Chavez is doing exactly that in Venezuela
And the the idiot who got kicked out of Honduras was trying the same thing


And then there is Obama.....

Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is full benefits for illegal aliens
 

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:36:45 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

SaPeIsMa wrote:

"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in
message ...
PC wrote:

I suppose you're counting Hitler as a socialist, you silly dweeb.


HITLER started as a Socialist and Morphed into a Totalitarian leader,
that is the usual path, Socialism takes away the right of the people so
government can create collectives. That makes it a small step for a
tyrant to come to power and steal a few more rights and rule with an
iron fist.


Chavez is doing exactly that in Venezuela
And the the idiot who got kicked out of Honduras was trying the same thing


And then there is Obama.....

....who is starting with Fox News, the *only* news that gives an honest
critique of his boo-boos.