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NotNow[_3_] September 16th 09 04:12 PM

The Dick Cheney
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:00:40 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert
|CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo.
|They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about
|that???

The problem is........ FACTS!

Please post a citation that shows:

1) CIA agent's families were photographed

2) that the ACLU showed the photographs to the detainees

3) that any laws were broken.

If what you described actually happened, I'd be ****ed and somebody,
maybe LOTS of somebodies ought to be headed straight to jail.

However, the only thing I can verify is that the photos were taken by
researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the
American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, to SUPPORT MILITARY COUNSEL.

The rest of the allegations are, as far as I can determine,
unsubstantiated. Here is some information:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tmo-detainees/
Yup, and their front page (aclu.org) last week had a link to an article
stating that they did just that, but were sure it was not illegal... Or
maybe they already have assurances from Holden... no, that would never
happen. snerk

So now you are against someone trying to support military lawyers??????
Why, because they are liberal?? Again, why not answer, where are the
cites for these alleged photos of CIA agents families? Where are the
cites for the allegations that the ACLU showed said photos to detainees
at Gitmo? Do you really think that they could get away with something
like that???
No, and I hope they will not. But if it is reported as much as the
recent ACORN tapes, no mention in the MSM, the result will be the same.

Are you going to answer the questions? YOU said that the ACLU took
pictures of CIA agents and their families and showed them to the
detainees at Gitmo. Do you really think that could happen and there'd be
no documentation, no resistance from government officials, no complaints
by the alleged CIA agents or their families?


Don't you get it... There was complaints by the CIA, ignored, there was
resistance from Government officials, ignored by the congressional
leadership, there were complaints, you just need to expand your news
intake to someone who is not actively campaigning for Obama policy...

cite? Where are these complaints? If YOU heard about them, why didn't
anybody in the media hear about them?

NotNow[_3_] September 16th 09 04:14 PM

The Dick Cheney
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:00:40 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert
|CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo.
|They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about
|that???

The problem is........ FACTS!

Please post a citation that shows:

1) CIA agent's families were photographed

2) that the ACLU showed the photographs to the detainees

3) that any laws were broken.

If what you described actually happened, I'd be ****ed and somebody,
maybe LOTS of somebodies ought to be headed straight to jail.

However, the only thing I can verify is that the photos were taken by
researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the
American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, to SUPPORT MILITARY COUNSEL.

The rest of the allegations are, as far as I can determine,
unsubstantiated. Here is some information:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tmo-detainees/

Damn it Gene, it doesn't matter. The right wing has spoon fed the lies,
therefore even if the are lies, they'll repeat them thousands of times.
did you read his links, where did I lie??? You guys are amazing, not
only don't you read or follow our posts, you don't even read your own
cites...

Did you read my statement to Gene? I never said YOU lied. I said it is a
lie that the ACLU took pictures of CIA agents and their families and
showed them to detainees at Gitmo
And I say it's not, as long as "is, is still is"... A group arm of the
ACLU took pictures and those pictures were shown to alleged enemies of
the state, taken on the field of battle... That is outing covert agents,
the pics were taken outside their homes. That, the ACLU freely admitted
on their homepage link, last week...

Cite?


I went to the ACLU site and they have obviously taken it down since the
investigation started. I am not going to dig any further, either call me
a liar, or search further, either way, you don't read what I cite anyway
so I guess I am too busy...


Well, there you go. No media reports, no government reports, no nothing.
Again, right wing lies being made by members of the GOP and you take
everything they say as gospel

Jim September 16th 09 04:36 PM

The Dick Cheney
 
NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:00:40 -0400, JustWait penned the following
well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of
covert |CIA agents and their families, and showed them to
prisoners in Gitmo. |They admitted it on their website, what is
so hard to understand about |that???

The problem is........ FACTS!
Please post a citation that shows:

1) CIA agent's families were photographed

2) that the ACLU showed the photographs to the detainees

3) that any laws were broken.

If what you described actually happened, I'd be ****ed and somebody,
maybe LOTS of somebodies ought to be headed straight to jail.

However, the only thing I can verify is that the photos were
taken by
researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the
American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, to SUPPORT MILITARY COUNSEL.

The rest of the allegations are, as far as I can determine,
unsubstantiated. Here is some information:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tmo-detainees/

Yup, and their front page (aclu.org) last week had a link to an
article stating that they did just that, but were sure it was not
illegal... Or maybe they already have assurances from Holden...
no, that would never happen. snerk

So now you are against someone trying to support military
lawyers??????
Why, because they are liberal?? Again, why not answer, where are
the cites for these alleged photos of CIA agents families? Where
are the cites for the allegations that the ACLU showed said photos
to detainees at Gitmo? Do you really think that they could get away
with something like that???
No, and I hope they will not. But if it is reported as much as the
recent ACORN tapes, no mention in the MSM, the result will be the same.

Are you going to answer the questions? YOU said that the ACLU took
pictures of CIA agents and their families and showed them to the
detainees at Gitmo. Do you really think that could happen and there'd
be no documentation, no resistance from government officials, no
complaints by the alleged CIA agents or their families?


Don't you get it... There was complaints by the CIA, ignored, there
was resistance from Government officials, ignored by the congressional
leadership, there were complaints, you just need to expand your news
intake to someone who is not actively campaigning for Obama policy...

cite? Where are these complaints? If YOU heard about them, why didn't
anybody in the media hear about them?


You are a man of your word, right?

JohnH[_5_] September 16th 09 05:48 PM

The Dick Cheney
 
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:14:12 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:00:40 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert
|CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo.
|They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about
|that???

The problem is........ FACTS!

Please post a citation that shows:

1) CIA agent's families were photographed

2) that the ACLU showed the photographs to the detainees

3) that any laws were broken.

If what you described actually happened, I'd be ****ed and somebody,
maybe LOTS of somebodies ought to be headed straight to jail.

However, the only thing I can verify is that the photos were taken by
researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the
American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, to SUPPORT MILITARY COUNSEL.

The rest of the allegations are, as far as I can determine,
unsubstantiated. Here is some information:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tmo-detainees/

Damn it Gene, it doesn't matter. The right wing has spoon fed the lies,
therefore even if the are lies, they'll repeat them thousands of times.
did you read his links, where did I lie??? You guys are amazing, not
only don't you read or follow our posts, you don't even read your own
cites...

Did you read my statement to Gene? I never said YOU lied. I said it is a
lie that the ACLU took pictures of CIA agents and their families and
showed them to detainees at Gitmo
And I say it's not, as long as "is, is still is"... A group arm of the
ACLU took pictures and those pictures were shown to alleged enemies of
the state, taken on the field of battle... That is outing covert agents,
the pics were taken outside their homes. That, the ACLU freely admitted
on their homepage link, last week...

Cite?


I went to the ACLU site and they have obviously taken it down since the
investigation started. I am not going to dig any further, either call me
a liar, or search further, either way, you don't read what I cite anyway
so I guess I am too busy...


Well, there you go. No media reports, no government reports, no nothing.
Again, right wing lies being made by members of the GOP and you take
everything they say as gospel


Bull****. I gave you a 'media report'
--

John H

JustWait September 16th 09 06:16 PM

The Dick Cheney
 
In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:00:40 -0400, JustWait penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert
|CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo.
|They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about
|that???

The problem is........ FACTS!

Please post a citation that shows:

1) CIA agent's families were photographed

2) that the ACLU showed the photographs to the detainees

3) that any laws were broken.

If what you described actually happened, I'd be ****ed and somebody,
maybe LOTS of somebodies ought to be headed straight to jail.

However, the only thing I can verify is that the photos were taken by
researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the
American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, to SUPPORT MILITARY COUNSEL.

The rest of the allegations are, as far as I can determine,
unsubstantiated. Here is some information:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tmo-detainees/
Yup, and their front page (aclu.org) last week had a link to an article
stating that they did just that, but were sure it was not illegal... Or
maybe they already have assurances from Holden... no, that would never
happen. snerk

So now you are against someone trying to support military lawyers??????
Why, because they are liberal?? Again, why not answer, where are the
cites for these alleged photos of CIA agents families? Where are the
cites for the allegations that the ACLU showed said photos to detainees
at Gitmo? Do you really think that they could get away with something
like that???
No, and I hope they will not. But if it is reported as much as the
recent ACORN tapes, no mention in the MSM, the result will be the same.

Are you going to answer the questions? YOU said that the ACLU took
pictures of CIA agents and their families and showed them to the
detainees at Gitmo. Do you really think that could happen and there'd be
no documentation, no resistance from government officials, no complaints
by the alleged CIA agents or their families?


Don't you get it... There was complaints by the CIA, ignored, there was
resistance from Government officials, ignored by the congressional
leadership, there were complaints, you just need to expand your news
intake to someone who is not actively campaigning for Obama policy...

cite? Where are these complaints? If YOU heard about them, why didn't
anybody in the media hear about them?


The same reason the head of ABC news hadn't "heard" of the ACORN tapes,
just three days ago. They won't allow discussion of such things in their
publications until the **** really hits the fan and they have no
choice...

--
Wafa free since 2009

Steve[_9_] September 17th 09 07:20 PM

The Dick Cheney
 

On 15-Sep-2009, jps wrote:

If what you babbled were true in anyone's fantasy, the scum in congress
would have done something about it.


Congress doesn't prosecute war crimes from what I understand. That'll
be the AG's job.


Congress "overseas" the justice department - remember when your preferred
perverts wanted an investigation into why Bush canned some prosecutors, even
though they "serve" entirely at the discretion of the president?

Oh yeah, that doesn't count any more for your purposes.


I don't think Cheney would mind being locked up. Between his man-size
safe and the bunker in which he's spent so much time, the guy doesn't
seem to mind small spaces. He won't have the freedom to head off to
Wyoming tho'. Wouldn't that be a shame.


Sure would; Wyoming is one of the FEW civilized places left in what was the
United States.

jps September 18th 09 02:17 AM

The Dick Cheney
 
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:20:12 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:


On 15-Sep-2009, jps wrote:

If what you babbled were true in anyone's fantasy, the scum in congress
would have done something about it.


Congress doesn't prosecute war crimes from what I understand. That'll
be the AG's job.


Congress "overseas" the justice department - remember when your preferred
perverts wanted an investigation into why Bush canned some prosecutors, even
though they "serve" entirely at the discretion of the president?


They're not meant to be used as political tools. The do serve at the
pleasure of the president.

The attorneys who were fired were dismissed because they didn't want
to bring bogus suits against political opponents of Bush.

But I'm sure you approve of those tactics since you're such a
patriotic, law and order American.

Oh yeah, that doesn't count any more for your purposes.


I don't think Cheney would mind being locked up. Between his man-size
safe and the bunker in which he's spent so much time, the guy doesn't
seem to mind small spaces. He won't have the freedom to head off to
Wyoming tho'. Wouldn't that be a shame.


Sure would; Wyoming is one of the FEW civilized places left in what was the
United States.


Cheney deserves a permanent colonoscopy. If the doctors remain
vigilant, they might spot Cheney's brain.

You really should consider moving on if it's over for you. I'm sure
you can find some junior Republican to manage your affairs here while
you bask away in the country of your chosing.

Maybe you could start a new country. The United States of Bum****,
where you have no civil rights and everyone's on their own.


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