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Ex-Powell chief on Cheney: 'The man is now just crazy' Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, the former chief of staff to Bush Secretary of State Colin Powell, said in response to an interviewer's question Thursday that he believes Cheney has gone a bit farther than too far. "I’ve come to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know, that’s not at issue with me any more — the man now is just crazy," Wilkerson said. |
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Ex-Powell chief on Cheney: 'The man is now just crazy' Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, the former chief of staff to Bush Secretary of State Colin Powell, said in response to an interviewer's question Thursday that he believes Cheney has gone a bit farther than too far. "I’ve come to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know, that’s not at issue with me any more — the man now is just crazy," Wilkerson said. Tarring and feathering is too good for Cheney... -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On 11-Sep-2009, H the K wrote: "I’ve come to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know, that’s not at issue with me any more — the man now is just crazy," Wilkerson said. Tarring and feathering is too good for Cheney... Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." |
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Steve wrote:
On 11-Sep-2009, H the K wrote: "I’ve come to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know, that’s not at issue with me any more — the man now is just crazy," Wilkerson said. Tarring and feathering is too good for Cheney... Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." That is one of the funniest comments I have ever seen on usenet. Dick Cheney is a traitor, a man who ought to be investigated, indicted, tried and if found guilty, convicted of any number of felonies. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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"Steve" wrote in message
... On 11-Sep-2009, H the K wrote: "I’ve come to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know, that’s not at issue with me any more — the man now is just crazy," Wilkerson said. Tarring and feathering is too good for Cheney... Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ... On 11-Sep-2009, H the K wrote: "I’ve come to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know, that’s not at issue with me any more — the man now is just crazy," Wilkerson said. Tarring and feathering is too good for Cheney... Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. And he's a good hunting buddy, too. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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"H the K" wrote in message
m... nom=de=plume wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On 11-Sep-2009, H the K wrote: "I’ve come to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know, that’s not at issue with me any more — the man now is just crazy," Wilkerson said. Tarring and feathering is too good for Cheney... Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. And he's a good hunting buddy, too. Well, to be fair Shakespeare said something about killing lawyers... Of course Dick wasn't a very good shot, having never served in the military... -- Nom=de=Plume |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... nom=de=plume wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On 11-Sep-2009, H the K wrote: "I’ve come to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know, that’s not at issue with me any more — the man now is just crazy," Wilkerson said. Tarring and feathering is too good for Cheney... Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. And he's a good hunting buddy, too. Well, to be fair Shakespeare said something about killing lawyers... Of course Dick wasn't a very good shot, having never served in the military... I assure you, there is no need for service in the military to be a good shot. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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H the K wrote:
Steve wrote: On 11-Sep-2009, H the K wrote: "I’ve come to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know, that’s not at issue with me any more — the man now is just crazy," Wilkerson said. Tarring and feathering is too good for Cheney... Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." That is one of the funniest comments I have ever seen on usenet. Dick Cheney is a traitor, a man who ought to be investigated, indicted, tried and if found guilty, convicted of any number of felonies. Poor use of commas, WAFA the writer. |
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"H the K" wrote in message
m... nom=de=plume wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... nom=de=plume wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On 11-Sep-2009, H the K wrote: "I’ve come to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know, that’s not at issue with me any more — the man now is just crazy," Wilkerson said. Tarring and feathering is too good for Cheney... Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. And he's a good hunting buddy, too. Well, to be fair Shakespeare said something about killing lawyers... Of course Dick wasn't a very good shot, having never served in the military... I assure you, there is no need for service in the military to be a good shot. Certainly correct. I was just thinking that *he* thinks he's a military expert. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... nom=de=plume wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... nom=de=plume wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On 11-Sep-2009, H the K wrote: "I’ve come to the conclusion that the man truly is — whether he was that way when I knew him before, when he was Secretary of Defense, I don’t know, that’s not at issue with me any more — the man now is just crazy," Wilkerson said. Tarring and feathering is too good for Cheney... Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. And he's a good hunting buddy, too. Well, to be fair Shakespeare said something about killing lawyers... Of course Dick wasn't a very good shot, having never served in the military... I assure you, there is no need for service in the military to be a good shot. Certainly correct. I was just thinking that *he* thinks he's a military expert. Krause is a military expert as well. You don't have to have served to be an expert. |
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On 12-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. Constitution? He's closer to factual adherence than 1) his boss, 2) Clinton or all of any congress in 50 yearrs. He didn't expose anyone - check the widely available public information. Torture hasn't happened, but it SURE the hell should. Televised. Sorry facts make you appear deficient. The reality is, you, like most "Americans" have your panties in a wad with the democrat vs republican thing. That's the root of your delusion. |
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On 12-Sep-2009, H the K wrote: Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." That is one of the funniest comments I have ever seen on usenet. Dick Cheney is a traitor, a man who ought to be investigated, indicted, tried and if found guilty, convicted of any number of felonies. How's the Thorazine supply? If what you babbled were true in anyone's fantasy, the scum in congress would have done something about it. |
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On 13-Sep-2009, Jim wrote: I assure you, there is no need for service in the military to be a good shot. Certainly correct. I was just thinking that *he* thinks he's a military expert. Krause is a military expert as well. You don't have to have served to be an expert. Slick Willy and Buckwheat prove THAT! |
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"Steve" wrote in message
... On 12-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. Constitution? He's closer to factual adherence than 1) his boss, 2) Clinton or all of any congress in 50 yearrs. He didn't expose anyone - check the widely available public information. Torture hasn't happened, but it SURE the hell should. Televised. Sorry facts make you appear deficient. The reality is, you, like most "Americans" have your panties in a wad with the democrat vs republican thing. That's the root of your delusion. Dick Cheney has only one interest... his interest. He continually put himself above the law, and he certainly condones both the outing of an undercover CIA operative and certainly was a party to the torture that went on. If you're unwilling to believe that waterboarding is torture, I'm sure there's someone available to try it on you. It's very clear what your delusion is, I'm sorry but I can't help you with that. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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Steve wrote:
On 13-Sep-2009, Jim wrote: I assure you, there is no need for service in the military to be a good shot. Certainly correct. I was just thinking that *he* thinks he's a military expert. Krause is a military expert as well. You don't have to have served to be an expert. Slick Willy and Buckwheat prove THAT! Yabut buckwheat says he has the weight of the world resting on his shoulders. That has to count for something. Slick willy was just a party animal who couldn't keep his fly zipped. I wonder how many state secrets he gave up while looking at the top of some bimbo's head. |
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:33:27 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On 12-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. Constitution? He's closer to factual adherence than 1) his boss, 2) Clinton or all of any congress in 50 yearrs. He didn't expose anyone - check the widely available public information. Torture hasn't happened, but it SURE the hell should. Televised. Sorry facts make you appear deficient. The reality is, you, like most "Americans" have your panties in a wad with the democrat vs republican thing. That's the root of your delusion. Dick Cheney has only one interest... his interest. He continually put himself above the law, and he certainly condones both the outing of an undercover CIA operative and certainly was a party to the torture that went on. If you're unwilling to believe that waterboarding is torture, I'm sure there's someone available to try it on you. It's very clear what your delusion is, I'm sorry but I can't help you with that. ****, did I miss something else? Did someone ask you for help? Is a threat to a family member 'torture'? Is waving an unloaded pistol in your face 'torture'? Suppose someone just looked at you with their eyes crossed. Would that qualify as 'torture'? If you liberals are so worried about people, why not do something for the poor, instead of just making them more poor? -- John H |
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"JohnH" wrote in message
... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:33:27 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On 12-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. Constitution? He's closer to factual adherence than 1) his boss, 2) Clinton or all of any congress in 50 yearrs. He didn't expose anyone - check the widely available public information. Torture hasn't happened, but it SURE the hell should. Televised. Sorry facts make you appear deficient. The reality is, you, like most "Americans" have your panties in a wad with the democrat vs republican thing. That's the root of your delusion. Dick Cheney has only one interest... his interest. He continually put himself above the law, and he certainly condones both the outing of an undercover CIA operative and certainly was a party to the torture that went on. If you're unwilling to believe that waterboarding is torture, I'm sure there's someone available to try it on you. It's very clear what your delusion is, I'm sorry but I can't help you with that. ****, did I miss something else? Possibly. I can't help with that either. Did someone ask you for help? Sometimes you don't have to wait to be asked. Is a threat to a family member 'torture'? Is waving an unloaded pistol in your face 'torture'? Suppose someone just looked at you with their eyes crossed. Would that qualify as 'torture'? ?? You need to re-read the definition of torture and the treaty we pushed for and signed forbiding it. a.. anguish: extreme mental distress a.. unbearable physical pain a.. agony: intense feelings of suffering; acute mental or physical pain; "an agony of doubt"; "the torments of the damned" a.. torment: torment emotionally or mentally a.. distortion: the act of distorting something so it seems to mean something it was not intended to mean a.. subject to torture; "The sinners will be tormented in Hell, according to the Bible" a.. the deliberate, systematic, or wanton infliction of physical or mental suffering by one or more persons in an attempt to force another person to yield information or to make a confession or for any other reason; "it required unnatural torturing to extract a confession" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...gainst_Torture (notice the signatories) If you liberals are so worried about people, why not do something for the poor, instead of just making them more poor? We have and we do. You're clearly not interested in the poor, just keeping them that way. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 14-Sep-2009, Jim wrote: Yabut buckwheat says he has the weight of the world resting on his shoulders. That has to count for something. Slick willy was just a party animal who couldn't keep his fly zipped. I wonder how many state secrets he gave up while looking at the top of some bimbo's head. Everybody has some skill, except the "American" (whatever the hell that is now) voter. |
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On 14-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Americans" have your panties in a wad with the democrat vs republican thing. That's the root of your delusion. Dick Cheney has only one interest... his interest. He continually put himself above the law, and he certainly condones both the outing of an undercover CIA operative and certainly was a party to the torture that went on. If you're unwilling to believe that waterboarding is torture, I'm sure there's someone available to try it on you. It's very clear what your delusion is, I'm sorry but I can't help you with that. You can believe what you want. You can't help that. Your perceptions were likely induced by television shows, like most "Americans." |
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On 14-Sep-2009, JohnH wrote: If you liberals are so worried about people, why not do something for the poor, instead of just making them more poor? Liberals? NO such thing; what you're referring to are bed wetters and irrational sympathizers. |
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On 14-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Is a threat to a family member 'torture'? Is waving an unloaded pistol in your face 'torture'? Suppose someone just looked at you with their eyes crossed. Would that qualify as 'torture'? ?? You need to re-read the definition of torture and the treaty we pushed for and signed forbiding it. a.. anguish: extreme mental distress a.. unbearable physical pain a.. agony: intense feelings of suffering; acute mental or physical pain; "an agony of doubt"; "the torments of the damned" a.. torment: torment emotionally or mentally a.. distortion: the act of distorting something so it seems to mean something it was not intended to mean a.. subject to torture; "The sinners will be tormented in Hell, according to the Bible" a.. the deliberate, systematic, or wanton infliction of physical or mental suffering by one or more persons in an attempt to force another person to yield information or to make a confession or for any other reason; "it required unnatural torturing to extract a confession" Perhaps you should volunteer to tickle their balls and the maniacs would confess. |
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On 14-Sep-2009, JustWait wrote: If you liberals are so worried about people, why not do something for the poor, instead of just making them more poor? Yeah but the terrorist ACLU took covert pics of CIA agents and their families and showed them to AlQueda, but the libs don't really care about that, after all, it's just a few innocent Americans being outed.. Real covert agents, not some socialite elitist who brags at tea parties.. Let the bed weters do what they are doing! Hasn't been anything interesting on television 8 years and 3 days!!! Then they'll see Hussein was asleep at the wheel TOO. |
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"Steve" wrote in message
... On 14-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Is a threat to a family member 'torture'? Is waving an unloaded pistol in your face 'torture'? Suppose someone just looked at you with their eyes crossed. Would that qualify as 'torture'? ?? You need to re-read the definition of torture and the treaty we pushed for and signed forbiding it. a.. anguish: extreme mental distress a.. unbearable physical pain a.. agony: intense feelings of suffering; acute mental or physical pain; "an agony of doubt"; "the torments of the damned" a.. torment: torment emotionally or mentally a.. distortion: the act of distorting something so it seems to mean something it was not intended to mean a.. subject to torture; "The sinners will be tormented in Hell, according to the Bible" a.. the deliberate, systematic, or wanton infliction of physical or mental suffering by one or more persons in an attempt to force another person to yield information or to make a confession or for any other reason; "it required unnatural torturing to extract a confession" Perhaps you should volunteer to tickle their balls and the maniacs would confess. Perhaps you should wash your mouth out with soap. When you're done, read about how normal interrogation techniques worked just fine, and then we tortured the prisoners (just for fun?). -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Steve" wrote in message
... On 14-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Americans" have your panties in a wad with the democrat vs republican thing. That's the root of your delusion. Dick Cheney has only one interest... his interest. He continually put himself above the law, and he certainly condones both the outing of an undercover CIA operative and certainly was a party to the torture that went on. If you're unwilling to believe that waterboarding is torture, I'm sure there's someone available to try it on you. It's very clear what your delusion is, I'm sorry but I can't help you with that. You can believe what you want. You can't help that. Your perceptions were likely induced by television shows, like most "Americans." I'm not sure what your perceptions were likely induced from.. sounds like you haven't followed the news in the last few months or possibly even years. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 14-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Perhaps you should wash your mouth out with soap. When you're done, read about how normal interrogation techniques worked just fine, and then we tortured the prisoners (just for fun?). IT'S ALL CHENEY AND BUSH'S FAULT! !! IT'S ALL CHENEY AND BUSH'S FAULT! !! WHAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Torture, then eradicate. Like must be done with fire ants. NO "bring the evildoers to justice." PS: Forcing soap into someone's mouth, according to bed wetters, is "torture." |
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"Steve" wrote in message
... On 14-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Perhaps you should wash your mouth out with soap. When you're done, read about how normal interrogation techniques worked just fine, and then we tortured the prisoners (just for fun?). IT'S ALL CHENEY AND BUSH'S FAULT! !! IT'S ALL CHENEY AND BUSH'S FAULT! !! If you say so. It was certainly during their tenure. WHAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Poor baby! -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 14-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: You can believe what you want. You can't help that. Your perceptions were likely induced by television shows, like most "Americans." I'm not sure what your perceptions were likely induced from.. sounds like you haven't followed the news in the last few months or possibly even years. OK, I'll switch to watching telebishin, then I can waddle with "the enlightened masses." |
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On 14-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: IT'S ALL CHENEY AND BUSH'S FAULT! !! IT'S ALL CHENEY AND BUSH'S FAULT! !! If you say so. It was certainly during their tenure. More evidence of the systemic, mental derangement of D vs R syndrome. Hope you get better. Most people don't. |
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Gene wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:00:40 -0400, JustWait penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert |CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo. |They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about |that??? The problem is........ FACTS! Please post a citation that shows: 1) CIA agent's families were photographed 2) that the ACLU showed the photographs to the detainees 3) that any laws were broken. If what you described actually happened, I'd be ****ed and somebody, maybe LOTS of somebodies ought to be headed straight to jail. However, the only thing I can verify is that the photos were taken by researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, to SUPPORT MILITARY COUNSEL. The rest of the allegations are, as far as I can determine, unsubstantiated. Here is some information: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tmo-detainees/ snerk Remember, Gene, if you won't drink JustHate's kool-aid, he'll take away your paper cup. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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Gene wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:00:40 -0400, JustWait penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert |CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo. |They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about |that??? The problem is........ FACTS! Please post a citation that shows: 1) CIA agent's families were photographed 2) that the ACLU showed the photographs to the detainees 3) that any laws were broken. If what you described actually happened, I'd be ****ed and somebody, maybe LOTS of somebodies ought to be headed straight to jail. However, the only thing I can verify is that the photos were taken by researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, to SUPPORT MILITARY COUNSEL. The rest of the allegations are, as far as I can determine, unsubstantiated. Here is some information: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tmo-detainees/ snerk Remember, Gene, if you won't drink JustHate's kool-aid, he'll take away your paper cup. It's getting harder and harder to tell the real harry from the fake. Which one are you? |
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JustWait wrote:
In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:33:27 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On 12-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. Constitution? He's closer to factual adherence than 1) his boss, 2) Clinton or all of any congress in 50 yearrs. He didn't expose anyone - check the widely available public information. Torture hasn't happened, but it SURE the hell should. Televised. Sorry facts make you appear deficient. The reality is, you, like most "Americans" have your panties in a wad with the democrat vs republican thing. That's the root of your delusion. Dick Cheney has only one interest... his interest. He continually put himself above the law, and he certainly condones both the outing of an undercover CIA operative and certainly was a party to the torture that went on. If you're unwilling to believe that waterboarding is torture, I'm sure there's someone available to try it on you. It's very clear what your delusion is, I'm sorry but I can't help you with that. ****, did I miss something else? Did someone ask you for help? Is a threat to a family member 'torture'? Is waving an unloaded pistol in your face 'torture'? Suppose someone just looked at you with their eyes crossed. Would that qualify as 'torture'? If you liberals are so worried about people, why not do something for the poor, instead of just making them more poor? Yeah but the terrorist ACLU took covert pics of CIA agents and their families and showed them to AlQueda, but the libs don't really care about that, after all, it's just a few innocent Americans being outed.. Real covert agents, not some socialite elitist who brags at tea parties.. Hoooboy........ unhinged just isn't a capable word for this! What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo. They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about that??? But at the same time you are worried about a non-covert, self outed, Washington Socialite who uses her CIA position to gain favor of the chattering class... unbelievable.. If you are just going to dismiss printed, verified facts, it's just useless. So the ACLU are "terrorists"?????????? |
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Gene wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:00:40 -0400, JustWait penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert |CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo. |They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about |that??? The problem is........ FACTS! Please post a citation that shows: 1) CIA agent's families were photographed 2) that the ACLU showed the photographs to the detainees 3) that any laws were broken. If what you described actually happened, I'd be ****ed and somebody, maybe LOTS of somebodies ought to be headed straight to jail. However, the only thing I can verify is that the photos were taken by researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, to SUPPORT MILITARY COUNSEL. The rest of the allegations are, as far as I can determine, unsubstantiated. Here is some information: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tmo-detainees/ Damn it Gene, it doesn't matter. The right wing has spoon fed the lies, therefore even if the are lies, they'll repeat them thousands of times. |
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In article ,
says... On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:00:40 -0400, JustWait penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert |CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo. |They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about |that??? The problem is........ FACTS! Please post a citation that shows: 1) CIA agent's families were photographed 2) that the ACLU showed the photographs to the detainees 3) that any laws were broken. If what you described actually happened, I'd be ****ed and somebody, maybe LOTS of somebodies ought to be headed straight to jail. However, the only thing I can verify is that the photos were taken by researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, to SUPPORT MILITARY COUNSEL. The rest of the allegations are, as far as I can determine, unsubstantiated. Here is some information: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tmo-detainees/ Yup, and their front page (aclu.org) last week had a link to an article stating that they did just that, but were sure it was not illegal... Or maybe they already have assurances from Holden... no, that would never happen. snerk -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:33:27 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On 12-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. Constitution? He's closer to factual adherence than 1) his boss, 2) Clinton or all of any congress in 50 yearrs. He didn't expose anyone - check the widely available public information. Torture hasn't happened, but it SURE the hell should. Televised. Sorry facts make you appear deficient. The reality is, you, like most "Americans" have your panties in a wad with the democrat vs republican thing. That's the root of your delusion. Dick Cheney has only one interest... his interest. He continually put himself above the law, and he certainly condones both the outing of an undercover CIA operative and certainly was a party to the torture that went on. If you're unwilling to believe that waterboarding is torture, I'm sure there's someone available to try it on you. It's very clear what your delusion is, I'm sorry but I can't help you with that. ****, did I miss something else? Did someone ask you for help? Is a threat to a family member 'torture'? Is waving an unloaded pistol in your face 'torture'? Suppose someone just looked at you with their eyes crossed. Would that qualify as 'torture'? If you liberals are so worried about people, why not do something for the poor, instead of just making them more poor? Yeah but the terrorist ACLU took covert pics of CIA agents and their families and showed them to AlQueda, but the libs don't really care about that, after all, it's just a few innocent Americans being outed.. Real covert agents, not some socialite elitist who brags at tea parties.. Hoooboy........ unhinged just isn't a capable word for this! What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo. They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about that??? But at the same time you are worried about a non-covert, self outed, Washington Socialite who uses her CIA position to gain favor of the chattering class... unbelievable.. If you are just going to dismiss printed, verified facts, it's just useless. So the ACLU are "terrorists"?????????? In my opinion, yes... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
The Dick Cheney
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says... Gene wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:00:40 -0400, JustWait penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert |CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo. |They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about |that??? The problem is........ FACTS! Please post a citation that shows: 1) CIA agent's families were photographed 2) that the ACLU showed the photographs to the detainees 3) that any laws were broken. If what you described actually happened, I'd be ****ed and somebody, maybe LOTS of somebodies ought to be headed straight to jail. However, the only thing I can verify is that the photos were taken by researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, to SUPPORT MILITARY COUNSEL. The rest of the allegations are, as far as I can determine, unsubstantiated. Here is some information: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...tmo-detainees/ Damn it Gene, it doesn't matter. The right wing has spoon fed the lies, therefore even if the are lies, they'll repeat them thousands of times. did you read his links, where did I lie??? You guys are amazing, not only don't you read or follow our posts, you don't even read your own cites... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
The Dick Cheney
JustWait wrote:
In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:33:27 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... On 12-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent person in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't deal with functional individuals in a faux "country." Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney. Constitution? He's closer to factual adherence than 1) his boss, 2) Clinton or all of any congress in 50 yearrs. He didn't expose anyone - check the widely available public information. Torture hasn't happened, but it SURE the hell should. Televised. Sorry facts make you appear deficient. The reality is, you, like most "Americans" have your panties in a wad with the democrat vs republican thing. That's the root of your delusion. Dick Cheney has only one interest... his interest. He continually put himself above the law, and he certainly condones both the outing of an undercover CIA operative and certainly was a party to the torture that went on. If you're unwilling to believe that waterboarding is torture, I'm sure there's someone available to try it on you. It's very clear what your delusion is, I'm sorry but I can't help you with that. ****, did I miss something else? Did someone ask you for help? Is a threat to a family member 'torture'? Is waving an unloaded pistol in your face 'torture'? Suppose someone just looked at you with their eyes crossed. Would that qualify as 'torture'? If you liberals are so worried about people, why not do something for the poor, instead of just making them more poor? Yeah but the terrorist ACLU took covert pics of CIA agents and their families and showed them to AlQueda, but the libs don't really care about that, after all, it's just a few innocent Americans being outed.. Real covert agents, not some socialite elitist who brags at tea parties.. Hoooboy........ unhinged just isn't a capable word for this! What the hell is the problem.. FACT: The ACLU took pictures of covert CIA agents and their families, and showed them to prisoners in Gitmo. They admitted it on their website, what is so hard to understand about that??? But at the same time you are worried about a non-covert, self outed, Washington Socialite who uses her CIA position to gain favor of the chattering class... unbelievable.. If you are just going to dismiss printed, verified facts, it's just useless. So the ACLU are "terrorists"?????????? In my opinion, yes... Justhate doesn't believe in the Bill of Rights, just the Bills Created for Us by the Righties. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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