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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:56:18 -0400, NotNow wrote: JohnH wrote: And I've never seen you agree with anything Obama has done. And here are some more great things 'Bama has done: Obama's First Six Months' "Accomplishments" 1. Offended the Queen of England . 2. Bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia . 3. Praised the Marxist Daniel Ortega. 4. Kissed Socialist Hugo Chavez on the cheek. 5. Endorsed the Socialist Evo Morales of Bolivia . 6. Sided with Hugo Chavez and Communist Fidel Castro against Honduras . 7. Announced we would meet with Iranians with no pre-conditions while they're building their nuclear weapons. 8. Gave away billions to AIG also without pre-conditions. 9. Expanded the bailouts. 10. Insulted everyone who has ever loved a Special Olympian. 11. Doubled our national debt. 12. Announced the termination of our new missile defense system the day after North Korea launched an ICBM. 13. Released information on U.S. Intelligence gathering despite urgings of his own CIA director and the prior four CIA directors. 14. Accepted without comment that five of his cabinet members cheated on their taxes and two other nominees withdrew after they couldn't take the heat. 15. Appointed a Homeland Security Chief who identified military veterans and abortion opponents as "dange rs to the nation." 16. Ordered that the word "terrorism" no longer be used and instead refers to such acts as "man made disasters." 17. Circled the globe to publicly apologize for America 's world leadership. 18. Told the Mexican president that the violence in their country was because of us. 19. Politicized the census by moving it into the White House from the Department of Commerce. 20. Appointed as Attorney General the man who orchestrated the forced removal and expulsion to Cuba of a 9-year-old whose mother died trying to bring him to freedom in the United States . 21. Salutes as heroes three Navy SEALS who took down three terrorists who threatened one American life and the next day announces members of the Bush administration may stand trial for "torturing" three 9/11 terrorists by pouring water up their noses. 22. Low altitude photo shoot of Air Force One over New York City that frightened thousands of New Yorkers. 23. Sent his National Defense Advisor to Europe to assure them that the US will no longer treat Israel in a special manner and they might be on their own with the Muslims. 24. Praised Jimmy Carter's trip to Gaza where he sided with terrorist Hamas against Israel. 25. Nationalized General Motors and Chrysler while turning shareholder control over to the unions and freezing out retired investors who owned their bonds. Committed unlimited taxpayer billions in the process. 26. Passed a huge energy tax in the House that will make American industry even less competitive while costing homeowners thousands per year. 27. Announced nationalized health care "reform" that will strip seniors of their Medicare, cut pay of physicians, increase taxes yet another $1 trillion, and put everyone on rationed care with government bureaucrats deciding who gets care and who doesn't. Bloomberg: Daschle says, "Health care reform will not be pain free. Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them," while former Colorado Governor Dick Lamm says seniors have "a duty to die." -- John H Typical and extremely expected of you...... |
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:07:46 -0400, Gene
wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:22:40 -0400, JohnH wrote: Bloomberg: Daschle says, "H...... You should learn to separate wing-nut lies from the truth: Daschle didn't say it..... http://tinyurl.com/crabab ...and.... Lamm is intentionally misquoted.... "During his third term, Lamm said in a 1984 (on Reagan's watch) speech that people had a "duty to die" before society spent so much money on their health care that younger generations would go bankrupt. Often left out was his use of the word "we" and his analysis of budget problems. " http://tinyurl.com/lmlmu3 Thanks for catching that. Glad to hear the other 26 items were on the mark! -- John H |
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... On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:53:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message . .. I don't know you well enough to speculate. I could guess and say racism, but that wouldn't be fair. Honestly, I don't see how you could be so angry at his so-called arrogance, lying, etc., since he's mostly just a center-left politician. I would think you would have been much angrier with Bush when he was president, given all of the same things you accuse the current president of, Bush certainly did. Were you much angrier then? Are we seeing your better side now? Were all the variations of Bush's name based on some deep-seated, fearful racism? Please show me where I *******ized Bush's name? I didn't and never will. While I despised him while he was president and wish to see him and Cheney thrown in jail for their crimes, I still respected the office. If my child had an opportunity to listen to him speak, I wouldn't prevent it or complain about it. In fact, Reagan, Clinton, and both Bushs did exactly that... spoke to kids. I'm totally disgusted by the low-brow reaction to a sitting president. If you can't see any arrogance, lying, etc., then further discussion is pointless. I doubt if you can see *anything* the slightest bit wrong with anything Obama has done. So, again, you refuse to answer the question. Show me where I *******ised Bush's name? No answer. I can see the arrogance of the right-wing nutcases who grasp at anything to "win." It was ok when Bush arrogantly talked about the war and then when back to his 1/3 of his presidency vacation... That's right 1000 days on vacation. But, Obama going on a short vacation, that's horrible, horrible. Further discussion is certainly pointless if you're unwilling to actually identify Obama's supposed arrogance or malfeasance. He's been in office just a short time. He inherited a war in Afganistan that had no strategy. He's formulating his policies and procedures, but it's all his fault. You continually claim that I don't ever see anything wrong with what Obama has done, which is absolutely false. I've said many times, even though you refuse to see it, that all presidents, all elected officials should be held to high standards. If you're just a troll, please feel free to let me know, and I'll stop bothering to have a rational discussion. -- Nom=de=Plume So be it. I didn't say you *******ized Bush's name. To my knowledge, unless you're an 'oldie' here with a 'pen name', you weren't here when the Bush bashing was at its height. Be back in a week. -- John H "BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!" Again, I didn't say you *******ized Bush's name, so why do you expect me to go searching for proof that you did. I've not seen you disagree with anything Obama has done, thus the comment. Saying, "...all elected officials should be held to high standards" does not express disagreement with anything Obama has done. -- John H Then, you haven't read some of my posts. Take another look. And, yes it does, since Obama is not perfect. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... snip Lot's a right-wing bs... why don't you list Bush's "accomplishments" next. lol -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... snip Lot's a right-wing bs... why don't you list Bush's "accomplishments" next. lol Bush? Well, he did bankrupt the country, among other accomplishments. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:13:28 -0400, JohnH wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:07:46 -0400, Gene wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:22:40 -0400, JohnH wrote: Bloomberg: Daschle says, "H...... You should learn to separate wing-nut lies from the truth: Daschle didn't say it..... http://tinyurl.com/crabab ...and.... Lamm is intentionally misquoted.... "During his third term, Lamm said in a 1984 (on Reagan's watch) speech that people had a "duty to die" before society spent so much money on their health care that younger generations would go bankrupt. Often left out was his use of the word "we" and his analysis of budget problems. " http://tinyurl.com/lmlmu3 Thanks for catching that. Glad to hear the other 26 items were on the mark! I really didn't pay much attention to your 26 non-cited opinions..... snerk Neither does anyone else. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:22:40 -0400, JohnH wrote: Bloomberg: Daschle says, "H...... You should learn to separate wing-nut lies from the truth: Daschle didn't say it..... http://tinyurl.com/crabab ...and.... Lamm is intentionally misquoted.... "During his third term, Lamm said in a 1984 (on Reagan's watch) speech that people had a "duty to die" before society spent so much money on their health care that younger generations would go bankrupt. Often left out was his use of the word "we" and his analysis of budget problems. " http://tinyurl.com/lmlmu3 Gene! The right wing hasn't let truth get in the way of ANYTHING since Obama was elected! |
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:29:58 -0400, NotNow wrote: Gene wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:22:40 -0400, JohnH wrote: Bloomberg: Daschle says, "H...... You should learn to separate wing-nut lies from the truth: Daschle didn't say it..... http://tinyurl.com/crabab ...and.... Lamm is intentionally misquoted.... "During his third term, Lamm said in a 1984 (on Reagan's watch) speech that people had a "duty to die" before society spent so much money on their health care that younger generations would go bankrupt. Often left out was his use of the word "we" and his analysis of budget problems. " http://tinyurl.com/lmlmu3 Gene! The right wing hasn't let truth get in the way of ANYTHING since Obama was elected! I have to agree. There certainly was a LOT of BAD behavior by opponents when Bush was in office, but this goes beyond the pale. Even in this newsgroup are many instances of outright lies, hate, anger, and uncalled racist posts. We've never been choir boys, here, but this has been incredible and violates any and all standards we have heretofore set for ourselves. For folks that should come here to share the happy boating moments of their lives... and I don't mind reading about kids, grand-kids, wives, cars, guitars, motorcycles, etc. either...... it has become all about showing the extent and depth of psychological and personal of some sort of festering political sore..... Most of those who discuss kids, grandkids, wives, cars, guitars, motorcycles, et cetera, rarely discuss boats. Your boy NotNow isn't known for boating posts, as an example. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:40:38 -0400, H the K wrote: Gene wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:29:58 -0400, NotNow wrote: Gene wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:22:40 -0400, JohnH wrote: Bloomberg: Daschle says, "H...... You should learn to separate wing-nut lies from the truth: Daschle didn't say it..... http://tinyurl.com/crabab ...and.... Lamm is intentionally misquoted.... "During his third term, Lamm said in a 1984 (on Reagan's watch) speech that people had a "duty to die" before society spent so much money on their health care that younger generations would go bankrupt. Often left out was his use of the word "we" and his analysis of budget problems. " http://tinyurl.com/lmlmu3 Gene! The right wing hasn't let truth get in the way of ANYTHING since Obama was elected! I have to agree. There certainly was a LOT of BAD behavior by opponents when Bush was in office, but this goes beyond the pale. Even in this newsgroup are many instances of outright lies, hate, anger, and uncalled racist posts. We've never been choir boys, here, but this has been incredible and violates any and all standards we have heretofore set for ourselves. For folks that should come here to share the happy boating moments of their lives... and I don't mind reading about kids, grand-kids, wives, cars, guitars, motorcycles, etc. either...... it has become all about showing the extent and depth of psychological and personal of some sort of festering political sore..... Most of those who discuss kids, grandkids, wives, cars, guitars, motorcycles, et cetera, rarely discuss boats. Your boy NotNow isn't known for boating posts, as an example. Come to think of it.... as an example.... I haven't heard much about boats from EITHER one of you..... pot, kettle, black? Not at all. I post about my minor boating adventures from time to time, and participate in those boating related discussions the right-wing turds tend to skip over. I also don't engage Loogy. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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