On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:29:53 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:51:42 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Guzzistimo wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:22:47 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 24, 11:35 pm, JR North wrote:
Yup The United States Socialist Republic. I swear I can almost see the
Swastika armbands beginning to materialize on National Socialist Obama
and his left wing cronies.
Sieg Heil!
maybe I shouldn't have sold those snappy black boots....
JR
HOME PAGE:http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------
guess he's unhappy now that bush is no longer in office, and we have
re-established the rule of law in this country. after all, under bush,
the govt had unlimited power to tax, to imprison, to suspend civil
liberties....

and used those powers.

obama doesn't do this. i can see why the right is ****ed
Yeah, but why are we wasting money and lives in Afghanistan?
--
John H

You've been told, John. We have to clean up the mess that Bush left when
his ADHD kicked in and he left Afghanistan in shambles and went to Iraq.

What mess did he leave in Afghanistan? I keep hearing 'Bush' as our
reason for being there. Pretty lame reason.
--
John H


Hell, you don't know about the fact that Bush left Afghanistan in
shambles because his apparent ADD addled mind told him to go to Iraq in
the middle of it? Do you realize that many, many military strategists
have stated over and over what a terrible mistake that was?

Loogy, if I knew what 'mess' Bush left in Afghanistan, and If Obama
would be specific about what he is 'cleaning up', then I wouldn't have
the question.

Do you realize that you, et al, have provided umpteen responses, none
of which provide any more of an answer than 'clean up the mess'.

What 'mess' did Bush leave?
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous

"Mille GT Owner" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:43:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Mille GT Owner" wrote in message
. ..
You've been told, John. We have to clean up the mess that Bush left when
his ADHD kicked in and he left Afghanistan in shambles and went to Iraq.

What mess did he leave in Afghanistan? I keep hearing 'Bush' as our
reason for being there. Pretty lame reason.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous


If you don't know, no amount of fact presentation at this point will make
it
clear.

You guys simply can't answer the question, so you tap dance.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous


It's been answered (here and elsewhere) many times. You can lead a horse to
water, but....


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Nom=de=Plume

"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Aug 25, 1:55 pm, Jack wrote:
On Aug 25, 12:22 pm, wf3h wrote:





We now have a brand-new intelligence agency that reports directly
to
the White House called the HIG. Three letters, as in KGB.
Coincidence?

the CIA and FBI were created by obama?

do tell!!

Non sequitur, and those weren't created by Bush either, dimwit.

hey moron...they have 3 letters. if you right wingers are gonna go off
on a tin foil hat binge, allow me to join in

You're leading the koolaid drinking, tin foil hat brigade, so carry
on...

says the guy who single-handedly boosted alcoa's stock prices...




The HIG *was* created by Obama. A new intelligence agency that reports
to him.

your contention is that all 3 letter intelligence groups are evil

Never wrote or implied that, try to keep up.

gee. i hope the alzheimer's medicine is working, because here's what
was said:

We now have a brand-new intelligence agency that reports directly
to
the White House called the HIG. Three letters, as in KGB.
Coincidence?

i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you forgot,
because the alternative is that you're just stupid.



I did report that obama
created yet another "intelligence" agency that reports to him, instead
of using the existing ones we already have. Bush does something like
that, and you moonbats are screaming that he's evil. Obama does it,
and you're cozy with it. Have some more koolaid.

given the fact that every time obama farts in the oval office, you
guys think he's ready to mount a gas attack on the US, yes, it does
seem you have a problem keeping your diapers clean.


I admitted nothing. I pointed out that the government had those
"powers" before Bush, and continue to have them to this day. You have
a reading comprehension problem?

and yet you somehow think that it's obama's fault. you guys are
stranger than fiction

Your lack of brainpower is even stranger. What is it about those
powers have I blamed on anyone? The government granted itself those
powers long before Bush or obama ever thought about inhabiting the
White House. You're the one that blamed it on Bush, when in reality
those powers have existed long before he took office, and now
obviously continue to exist.

and yet you guys keep whining about obama...it seems you don't even
read what you write.


reply:
Maybe it is an arm of this HIG.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezb-e-Islami_Gulbuddin

"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Aug 25, 4:32 pm, Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Aug 25, 7:32 am, Guzzistimo wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:22:47 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 24, 11:35 pm, JR North wrote:
Yup The United States Socialist Republic. I swear I can almost see
the
Swastika armbands beginning to materialize on National Socialist
Obama
and his left wing cronies.
Sieg Heil!
maybe I shouldn't have sold those snappy black boots....
JR
HOME PAGE:http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------

guess he's unhappy now that bush is no longer in office, and we have
re-established the rule of law in this country. after all, under bush,
the govt had unlimited power to tax, to imprison, to suspend civil
liberties....

and used those powers.

obama doesn't do this. i can see why the right is ****ed

Yeah, but why are we wasting money and lives in Afghanistan?
--

ever hear of 9/11?

oh. you haven't. they don't have news in your cave.

well, i don't want to shock you but you might read about it. or have
someone read about it to you since you're incapable.

Yes, I've heard of 9/11.

Afghanistan didn't attack us. The Taliban didn't attack us.
--

the taliban attacked us. they were in control of afghanistan

haven't they reached 9/11 in your 3rd grade class yet?

Haven't they reached 9/11 in your classes? Taliban did not attack us. They
allowed Al quaida to have traing camps there. They supported the Taliban,
but did not attack us.

On Aug 25, 6:56*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

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On Aug 25, 4:32 pm, Mille GT Owner wrote:





On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 25, 7:32 am, Guzzistimo wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:22:47 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 24, 11:35 pm, JR North wrote:
Yup The United States Socialist Republic. I swear I can almost see
the
Swastika armbands beginning to materialize on National Socialist
Obama
and his left wing cronies.
Sieg Heil!
maybe I shouldn't have sold those snappy black boots....
JR
HOME PAGE:http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------

guess he's unhappy now that bush is no longer in office, and we have
re-established the rule of law in this country. after all, under bush,
the govt had unlimited power to tax, to imprison, to suspend civil
liberties....

and used those powers.

obama doesn't do this. i can see why the right is ****ed

Yeah, but why are we wasting money and lives in Afghanistan?
--

ever hear of 9/11?

oh. you haven't. they don't have news in your cave.

well, i don't want to shock you but you might read about it. or have
someone read about it to you since you're incapable.

Yes, I've heard of 9/11.

Afghanistan didn't attack us. The Taliban didn't attack us.
--

the taliban attacked us. they were in control of afghanistan

haven't they reached 9/11 in your 3rd grade class yet?

Haven't they reached 9/11 in your classes? *Taliban did not attack us. *They
allowed Al quaida to have traing camps there. *They supported the Taliban,
but did not attack us.-

which, of course, means they attacked us

i realize common sense is not required on your planet, but on earth we
do try to use it on occasion.

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"SteveB" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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You must be a very angry person.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Or observant.



Should probably start by looking in the mirror...

--
Nom=de=Plume

Lemee see. I want to understand you. I see my country falling apart,
and I need to look in a mirror? Is that what you're saying?


steve


My bad. If you see your country falling apart, you should be trying to
solve the problem. This includes having a rational, sober discussion with
those you believe are causing the problem AND looking in the mirror.
That's what I'm saying.
--
Nom=de=Plume


It's just that you say so many disjointed irrational stupid things that I
have a hard time hearing what exactly you ARE saying. Know whut uh mean,
Vern?

Steve

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:06:33 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 25, 4:32*pm, Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Aug 25, 7:32*am, Guzzistimo wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:22:47 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 24, 11:35*pm, JR North wrote:
Yup The United States Socialist Republic. I swear I can almost see the
Swastika armbands beginning to materialize on National Socialist Obama
and his left wing cronies.
Sieg Heil!
maybe I shouldn't have sold those snappy black boots....
JR
HOME PAGE:http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------

guess he's unhappy now that bush is *no longer in office, and we have
re-established the rule of law in this country. after all, under bush,
the govt had unlimited power to tax, to imprison, to suspend civil
liberties....

and used those powers.

obama doesn't do this. i can see why the right is ****ed

Yeah, but why are we wasting money and lives in Afghanistan?
--

ever hear of 9/11?

oh. you haven't. they don't have news in your cave.

well, i don't want to shock you but you might read about it. or have
someone read about it to you since you're incapable.

Yes, I've heard of 9/11.

Afghanistan didn't attack us. The Taliban didn't attack us.
--

the taliban attacked us. they were in control of afghanistan

haven't they reached 9/11 in your 3rd grade class yet?

And all along I thought it was al-Qaeda who attacked us, with Osama
bin Laden as the leader of the group.

Remember?

These guys: (from Wikipedia)

Al-Qaeda, alternatively spelled al-Qaida and sometimes al-Qa'ida,
(Arabic: ????????; al-qa-?idah; translation: The Base) is an Islamist
group founded sometime between August 1988[5] and late 1989/early
1990.[6] It operates as a network comprising both a multinational,
stateless arm[7] and a fundamentalist Sunni movement calling for
Jihadi international .

Al-Qaeda has attacked civilian and military targets in various
countries, the most notable being the September 11 attacks in 2001.
These actions were followed by the US government launching the War on
Terrorism. As of 2009, the group is believed to have between 200 and
300 members.[8]

Have you ever noticed how most liberals feel they must resort to
personal insults and name-calling during any discussion?
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:36:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Mille GT Owner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:43:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Mille GT Owner" wrote in message
...
You've been told, John. We have to clean up the mess that Bush left when
his ADHD kicked in and he left Afghanistan in shambles and went to Iraq.

What mess did he leave in Afghanistan? I keep hearing 'Bush' as our
reason for being there. Pretty lame reason.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous


If you don't know, no amount of fact presentation at this point will make
it
clear.

You guys simply can't answer the question, so you tap dance.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous


It's been answered (here and elsewhere) many times. You can lead a horse to
water, but....

Ah yes, to clean up what Bush left, to disrupt the Taliban's attempt
to attack us (which they've never done anyway), and to clean up the
mess Bush left behind. Oh, and because Bush got us in there.

Maybe Obama wants some of the Talibans opium production? That's as
good as any of the 'reasons' you've propounded.


The arguments presented by you, wf3h, and Loogy all have the same
degree of merit.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:29:26 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

You must be a very angry person.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Or observant.



Should probably start by looking in the mirror...

--
Nom=de=Plume

Lemee see. I want to understand you. I see my country falling apart,
and I need to look in a mirror? Is that what you're saying?


steve


My bad. If you see your country falling apart, you should be trying to
solve the problem. This includes having a rational, sober discussion with
those you believe are causing the problem AND looking in the mirror.
That's what I'm saying.
--
Nom=de=Plume


It's just that you say so many disjointed irrational stupid things that I
have a hard time hearing what exactly you ARE saying. Know whut uh mean,
Vern?

Steve


You are correct, of course. He, wf3h, and Loogy seem to be sharing
notes.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous

On Aug 25, 7:58*pm, Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:06:33 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

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ever hear of 9/11?

oh. you haven't. they don't have news in your cave.

well, i don't want to shock you but you might read about it. or have
someone read about it to you since you're incapable.

Yes, I've heard of 9/11.

Afghanistan didn't attack us. The Taliban didn't attack us.
--

the taliban attacked us. they were in control of afghanistan

haven't they reached 9/11 in your 3rd grade class yet?

And all along I thought it was al-Qaeda who attacked us, with Osama
bin Laden as the leader of the group.

well, glad to disabuse you of your simplistic and all too naive
concepts. glad to be of service.


Remember?

These guys: (from Wikipedia)

hmmm...worse than i thought. he gets his worldview from
'wikipedia'...my optimism was premature...




Al-Qaeda has attacked civilian and military targets in various
countries, the most notable being the September 11 attacks in 2001.
These actions were followed by the US government launching the War on
Terrorism. As of 2009, the group is believed to have between 200 and
300 members.[8]

Have you ever noticed how most liberals feel they must resort to
personal insults and name-calling during any discussion?
--

have you noticed how clueless reactionaries are about history?
astonishing...