"Jim" wrote in message
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SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
news
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
Gotta love it.

Obama says prostate cancer can be diagnosed by more colonoscopies.
NOT.

Obama says that instead of giving a 100 year old active person a
pacemaker, they should give her a pain pill. (Psssssssst. Pain
pills don't work on irregular heartbeats.)

He sez we need to do a breathalyzer on a child asthma patient.

Lots more, but I'm busy right now.

Steve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALCdJ5QuXs

Make fun of a small inconsistency if you must. Both are easily
treated if caught early by a relatively simple test.

I agree with the sentiment. The guy with the ketch next door just
had colorectal cancer surgery. He was one of those who wouldn't get
a colonoscopy.

We have several self employed dock walker types around here who
aren't going to get tested because they have no insurance. And we
will pay if and when they get sick.

To his critics, Obama must say everything perfectly and in the
proper order. They probably weren't critical of Bush's mangling of
his speeches.
Bush was actually worse than Obama in many speeches.

Steve
Not to mention lying in almost everyone of them, and starting a war on
false pretenses and not having a plan to pay for it.
C'mon, man. You're like a hippie stuck in the sixties. Or, do you
want to go back and talk about Eisenhower and Nixon? I mean, they're
relative to today's situation, but speed up a little and come into the
present tense.

Hmmmmmm. Starting a war and not having a plan to pay for it
.............. Sounds like starting a Utopian nation and not having a
plan to pay for it.

Both ideas are ludicrous.

Steve
One of the arguments is "How is Obama going to pay for health care?" But
the same people never seem to care that the Iraq war was not paid for.

Since the well is dry, what's the difference?

Steve

We had a budget surplus when Bush took office and started spending it,
turning it into the "dry well" you refer to.

Let me restate that. THE WELL IS DRY NOW, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? Did you
get it that time, Bunkie?

Steve

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:18:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Aug 20, 12:51Â*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Gotta love it.

Obama says prostate cancer can be diagnosed by more colonoscopies. Â*NOT.

Obama says that instead of giving a 100 year old active person a pacemaker,
they should give her a pain pill. Â*(Psssssssst. Â*Pain pills don't work on
irregular heartbeats.)

He sez we need to do a breathalyzer on a child asthma patient.

Lots more, but I'm busy right now.

Steve

When my father was 80, he had a hip replaced, under Bozomacare I
suspect

More misinformation. You'll hitch your wagon to anything, doesn't
matter if it's made up.

Do you recognize the fallicy in your logic when you base conclusions
on assumptions that conveniently fit your prejudices?

You sound like Limbaugh. Full of ****.

What's not true about gov run health insurance taking care of his dad?
My dad got a Medicare-paid knee replacement at +80 a couple years ago.
Doesn't keep him from whining about Obama.
Common sense/logical thought and politics are incompatible for some.
Politics is, after all, the art of mind control.
Some minds are easily assimilated.

--Vic

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:04:26 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:18:38 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:27:26 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Aug 20, 12:51*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
Gotta love it.

Obama says prostate cancer can be diagnosed by more colonoscopies. *NOT.

Obama says that instead of giving a 100 year old active person a pacemaker,
they should give her a pain pill. *(Psssssssst. *Pain pills don't work on
irregular heartbeats.)

He sez we need to do a breathalyzer on a child asthma patient.

Lots more, but I'm busy right now.

Steve

When my father was 80, he had a hip replaced, under Bozomacare I
suspect

More misinformation. You'll hitch your wagon to anything, doesn't
matter if it's made up.

Do you recognize the fallicy in your logic when you base conclusions
on assumptions that conveniently fit your prejudices?

You sound like Limbaugh. Full of ****.

What's not true about gov run health insurance taking care of his dad?
My dad got a Medicare-paid knee replacement at +80 a couple years ago.
Doesn't keep him from whining about Obama.
Common sense/logical thought and politics are incompatible for some.
Politics is, after all, the art of mind control.
Some minds are easily assimilated.

--Vic

I was reacting to this...

"When my father was 80, he had a hip replaced, under Bozomacare I
suspect they would not do so because an 80 yr old prob would not live
long enough to get any use out of it."

This is the sort of strawman fear mongering that has no basis in
reality but, like Limbaugh, if you can construct that strawman and
create some circular references, you're home free with a baseless
attack on whomever.

Logic is on display for sure, bassackwards as it might be.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:39:56 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Jim" wrote in message
om...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
news SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
Gotta love it.

Obama says prostate cancer can be diagnosed by more colonoscopies.
NOT.

Obama says that instead of giving a 100 year old active person a
pacemaker, they should give her a pain pill. (Psssssssst. Pain
pills don't work on irregular heartbeats.)

He sez we need to do a breathalyzer on a child asthma patient.

Lots more, but I'm busy right now.

Steve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALCdJ5QuXs

Make fun of a small inconsistency if you must. Both are easily
treated if caught early by a relatively simple test.

I agree with the sentiment. The guy with the ketch next door just
had colorectal cancer surgery. He was one of those who wouldn't get
a colonoscopy.

We have several self employed dock walker types around here who
aren't going to get tested because they have no insurance. And we
will pay if and when they get sick.

To his critics, Obama must say everything perfectly and in the
proper order. They probably weren't critical of Bush's mangling of
his speeches.
Bush was actually worse than Obama in many speeches.

Steve
Not to mention lying in almost everyone of them, and starting a war on
false pretenses and not having a plan to pay for it.
C'mon, man. You're like a hippie stuck in the sixties. Or, do you
want to go back and talk about Eisenhower and Nixon? I mean, they're
relative to today's situation, but speed up a little and come into the
present tense.

Hmmmmmm. Starting a war and not having a plan to pay for it
.............. Sounds like starting a Utopian nation and not having a
plan to pay for it.

Both ideas are ludicrous.

Steve
One of the arguments is "How is Obama going to pay for health care?" But
the same people never seem to care that the Iraq war was not paid for.

Since the well is dry, what's the difference?

Steve

We had a budget surplus when Bush took office and started spending it,
turning it into the "dry well" you refer to.

Let me restate that. THE WELL IS DRY NOW, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? Did you
get it that time, Bunkie?

Steve

You're arguing with a stump. a light pole, an empty net, a string with
no fish, no oars in the water.

In other words, he's a dim bulb with blinkers on. Nothin' goin' on.

Kaput.

jps wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:39:56 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
news SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
Gotta love it.

Obama says prostate cancer can be diagnosed by more colonoscopies.
NOT.

Obama says that instead of giving a 100 year old active person a
pacemaker, they should give her a pain pill. (Psssssssst. Pain
pills don't work on irregular heartbeats.)

He sez we need to do a breathalyzer on a child asthma patient.

Lots more, but I'm busy right now.

Steve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALCdJ5QuXs

Make fun of a small inconsistency if you must. Both are easily
treated if caught early by a relatively simple test.

I agree with the sentiment. The guy with the ketch next door just
had colorectal cancer surgery. He was one of those who wouldn't get
a colonoscopy.

We have several self employed dock walker types around here who
aren't going to get tested because they have no insurance. And we
will pay if and when they get sick.

To his critics, Obama must say everything perfectly and in the
proper order. They probably weren't critical of Bush's mangling of
his speeches.
Bush was actually worse than Obama in many speeches.

Steve
Not to mention lying in almost everyone of them, and starting a war on
false pretenses and not having a plan to pay for it.
C'mon, man. You're like a hippie stuck in the sixties. Or, do you
want to go back and talk about Eisenhower and Nixon? I mean, they're
relative to today's situation, but speed up a little and come into the
present tense.

Hmmmmmm. Starting a war and not having a plan to pay for it
.............. Sounds like starting a Utopian nation and not having a
plan to pay for it.

Both ideas are ludicrous.

Steve
One of the arguments is "How is Obama going to pay for health care?" But
the same people never seem to care that the Iraq war was not paid for.
Since the well is dry, what's the difference?

Steve
We had a budget surplus when Bush took office and started spending it,
turning it into the "dry well" you refer to.
Let me restate that. THE WELL IS DRY NOW, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? Did you
get it that time, Bunkie?

Steve

You're arguing with a stump. a light pole, an empty net, a string with
no fish, no oars in the water.

In other words, he's a dim bulb with blinkers on. Nothin' goin' on.

Kaput.

Steve is long on accusations, short on specifics.

The well is dry now, and will remain so if we keep it as it is.

That's the difference, why keep doing what does not work? We spend more
than anyone else, and get less for it.

You don't believe it? Do we have the longest life spans? Were #17 on
that list. #1 on expenditures.

In article ,
says...

"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
Gotta love it.

Obama says prostate cancer can be diagnosed by more colonoscopies.
NOT.

Obama says that instead of giving a 100 year old active person a
pacemaker, they should give her a pain pill. (Psssssssst. Pain pills
don't work on irregular heartbeats.)

He sez we need to do a breathalyzer on a child asthma patient.

Lots more, but I'm busy right now.

Steve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALCdJ5QuXs

Make fun of a small inconsistency if you must. Both are easily treated
if caught early by a relatively simple test.

I agree with the sentiment. The guy with the ketch next door just had
colorectal cancer surgery. He was one of those who wouldn't get a
colonoscopy.

We have several self employed dock walker types around here who aren't
going to get tested because they have no insurance. And we will pay if
and when they get sick.

To his critics, Obama must say everything perfectly and in the proper
order. They probably weren't critical of Bush's mangling of his
speeches.

Bush was actually worse than Obama in many speeches.

Steve
Not to mention lying in almost everyone of them, and starting a war on
false pretenses and not having a plan to pay for it.

C'mon, man. You're like a hippie stuck in the sixties. Or, do you want to
go back and talk about Eisenhower and Nixon? I mean, they're relative to
today's situation, but speed up a little and come into the present tense.

Hmmmmmm. Starting a war and not having a plan to pay for it ..............
Sounds like starting a Utopian nation and not having a plan to pay for it.

Both ideas are ludicrous.

Steve

Yeah, when I asked yesterday to see violent opposition to Health Care
where folks are driving speakers off the stage and down the street like
the protests against republicans and the minutemen in the last few
years.. I got back a couple links from my bud Loogie, one of them going
back to the Nixon Administration... Guess Grandma really didn't bring a
nazi sign or brandish a weapon or force any speakers to leave the
building without having a say.. It just blows me away how ****ed off the
left is about folks speaking their minds, but never said anything about
the violent protests I noted before. The other thing that gets me is
their opposition is so vapid, they can't even accept that someone else
can honestly have a different point of view... The consider anybody who
has a different point of view, to be a lesser human intelligence..
Reminds me a lot of the KKK clowns I met in 'Bama... You were either
with them, or inferior...

--
Wafa free since 2009

In article ,
says...

SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
Gotta love it.

Obama says prostate cancer can be diagnosed by more colonoscopies.
NOT.

Obama says that instead of giving a 100 year old active person a
pacemaker, they should give her a pain pill. (Psssssssst. Pain pills
don't work on irregular heartbeats.)

He sez we need to do a breathalyzer on a child asthma patient.

Lots more, but I'm busy right now.

Steve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALCdJ5QuXs

Make fun of a small inconsistency if you must. Both are easily treated
if caught early by a relatively simple test.

I agree with the sentiment. The guy with the ketch next door just had
colorectal cancer surgery. He was one of those who wouldn't get a
colonoscopy.

We have several self employed dock walker types around here who aren't
going to get tested because they have no insurance. And we will pay if
and when they get sick.

To his critics, Obama must say everything perfectly and in the proper
order. They probably weren't critical of Bush's mangling of his
speeches.
Bush was actually worse than Obama in many speeches.

Steve
Not to mention lying in almost everyone of them, and starting a war on
false pretenses and not having a plan to pay for it.

C'mon, man. You're like a hippie stuck in the sixties. Or, do you want to
go back and talk about Eisenhower and Nixon? I mean, they're relative to
today's situation, but speed up a little and come into the present tense.

Hmmmmmm. Starting a war and not having a plan to pay for it ..............
Sounds like starting a Utopian nation and not having a plan to pay for it.

Both ideas are ludicrous.

Steve


One of the arguments is "How is Obama going to pay for health care?"
But the same people never seem to care that the Iraq war was not paid for.

Well, it was paid for, as much as the Government pays for anything..
What threw it off was the 4 dollar gas and forced low score/no score
home loans... Several "folks" tried to head off both issues, but were
filibustered at every turn...

--
Wafa free since 2009

On Aug 20, 6:37*pm, "SteveB" wrote:


I think so, and want to be a poster child. *If health care were in the state
they want it to be during the last ten years, I would have been dead nine..
One of those who are too old to be worth the trouble and expense.

Steve

why? do they want to kill morons and idiots? if so you would have been
strangled in your crib

SteveB wrote:

I think so, and want to be a poster child. If health care were in the state
they want it to be during the last ten years, I would have been dead nine.
One of those who are too old to be worth the trouble and expense.

Steve

Sorry to tell you, but no matter what Sara Palin told you, that death
panel thing isn't true.

Can't tell when you are being manipulated?

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:43:50 -0700, Jim wrote:

jps wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:39:56 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
news SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
Gotta love it.

Obama says prostate cancer can be diagnosed by more colonoscopies.
NOT.

Obama says that instead of giving a 100 year old active person a
pacemaker, they should give her a pain pill. (Psssssssst. Pain
pills don't work on irregular heartbeats.)

He sez we need to do a breathalyzer on a child asthma patient.

Lots more, but I'm busy right now.

Steve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALCdJ5QuXs

Make fun of a small inconsistency if you must. Both are easily
treated if caught early by a relatively simple test.

I agree with the sentiment. The guy with the ketch next door just
had colorectal cancer surgery. He was one of those who wouldn't get
a colonoscopy.

We have several self employed dock walker types around here who
aren't going to get tested because they have no insurance. And we
will pay if and when they get sick.

To his critics, Obama must say everything perfectly and in the
proper order. They probably weren't critical of Bush's mangling of
his speeches.
Bush was actually worse than Obama in many speeches.

Steve
Not to mention lying in almost everyone of them, and starting a war on
false pretenses and not having a plan to pay for it.
C'mon, man. You're like a hippie stuck in the sixties. Or, do you
want to go back and talk about Eisenhower and Nixon? I mean, they're
relative to today's situation, but speed up a little and come into the
present tense.

Hmmmmmm. Starting a war and not having a plan to pay for it
.............. Sounds like starting a Utopian nation and not having a
plan to pay for it.

Both ideas are ludicrous.

Steve
One of the arguments is "How is Obama going to pay for health care?" But
the same people never seem to care that the Iraq war was not paid for.
Since the well is dry, what's the difference?

Steve
We had a budget surplus when Bush took office and started spending it,
turning it into the "dry well" you refer to.
Let me restate that. THE WELL IS DRY NOW, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? Did you
get it that time, Bunkie?

Steve

You're arguing with a stump. a light pole, an empty net, a string with
no fish, no oars in the water.

In other words, he's a dim bulb with blinkers on. Nothin' goin' on.

Kaput.

Steve is long on accusations, short on specifics.

The well is dry now, and will remain so if we keep it as it is.

That's the difference, why keep doing what does not work? We spend more
than anyone else, and get less for it.

You don't believe it? Do we have the longest life spans? Were #17 on
that list. #1 on expenditures.

Soooooo much concern about the debt we're creating taking care of
ourselves. Didn't matter when we were spending trillions on bullets
and bombs. These people who you're arguing with are part of the 20%
who still believe the Republicans are on the right track.

Rachael Maddow had a brilliant segment on the other night, a metaphor
for the Republican interest in passing health care reform.

If you haven't seen it, I'd highly recomend you look for her pizza
segment on MSNBC.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/

Go to August 18th under the Previous Shows section and look for the
pizza segment. Perfect.