On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:14:19 -0700, Jim wrote:

SteveB wrote:

I think so, and want to be a poster child. If health care were in the state
they want it to be during the last ten years, I would have been dead nine.
One of those who are too old to be worth the trouble and expense.

Steve

Sorry to tell you, but no matter what Sara Palin told you, that death
panel thing isn't true.

Can't tell when you are being manipulated?

He *wants* to be manipulated. It gives an excuse to bluster about his
prejudices. It's happening all over the country.

"Jim" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

I think so, and want to be a poster child. If health care were in the
state they want it to be during the last ten years, I would have been
dead nine. One of those who are too old to be worth the trouble and
expense.

Steve

Sorry to tell you, but no matter what Sara Palin told you, that death
panel thing isn't true.

Can't tell when you are being manipulated?

Well, if this thing is approved, let's just keep count of how many five way
bypasses and aortic valve replacements there are. Nothing like reality to
keep things straight. My heart surgery was near $200k. I doubt that would
have been covered under Obama.

And yes, I can tell when I'm being manipulated, so .......... plonk.

Steve

SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
I think so, and want to be a poster child. If health care were in the
state they want it to be during the last ten years, I would have been
dead nine. One of those who are too old to be worth the trouble and
expense.

Steve
Sorry to tell you, but no matter what Sara Palin told you, that death
panel thing isn't true.

Can't tell when you are being manipulated?

Well, if this thing is approved, let's just keep count of how many five way
bypasses and aortic valve replacements there are. Nothing like reality to
keep things straight. My heart surgery was near $200k. I doubt that would
have been covered under Obama.

And yes, I can tell when I'm being manipulated, so .......... plonk.

Steve



You can join Frogwatch and John H, Plonk back. I was hoping you would
back up your accusations, but innuendo and speculation is all you have.

Trying to talk to you is like arguing with the dining room table.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:53:51 -0700, Jim wrote:

SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
I think so, and want to be a poster child. If health care were in the
state they want it to be during the last ten years, I would have been
dead nine. One of those who are too old to be worth the trouble and
expense.

Steve
Sorry to tell you, but no matter what Sara Palin told you, that death
panel thing isn't true.

Can't tell when you are being manipulated?

Well, if this thing is approved, let's just keep count of how many five way
bypasses and aortic valve replacements there are. Nothing like reality to
keep things straight. My heart surgery was near $200k. I doubt that would
have been covered under Obama.

And yes, I can tell when I'm being manipulated, so .......... plonk.

Steve



You can join Frogwatch and John H, Plonk back. I was hoping you would
back up your accusations, but innuendo and speculation is all you have.

Trying to talk to you is like arguing with the dining room table.

I warned you. He's dumb as a stump. At least a dining room table has
some style to it. Steve can't handle having his assumptions tested.

What makes him think his aortic procedure wasn't going to be covered
by Obamacare? If my father would have required it earlier this year,
it would have been covered by Medicare.

These idiots don't have a clue nor do they care to. As I said
earlier, they use the malarky to excite their pre-determined
prejudices.

On Aug 20, 11:45*pm, "SteveB" wrote:


Well, if this thing is approved, let's just keep count of how many five way
bypasses and aortic valve replacements there are. *Nothing like reality to
keep things straight. *My heart surgery was near $200k. *I doubt that would
have been covered under Obama.

and if you lost your job and had no health insurance

would it have been covered then?

On Aug 21, 12:50*am, jps wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:53:51 -0700, Jim wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
I think so, and want to be a poster child. *If health care were in the
state they want it to be during the last ten years, I would have been
dead nine. One of those who are too old to be worth the trouble and
expense.

Steve
Sorry to tell you, but no matter what Sara Palin told you, that death
panel thing isn't true.

Can't tell when you are being manipulated?

Well, if this thing is approved, let's just keep count of how many five way
bypasses and aortic valve replacements there are. *Nothing like reality to
keep things straight. *My heart surgery was near $200k. *I doubt that would
have been covered under Obama.

And yes, I can tell when I'm being manipulated, so .......... plonk.

Steve

You can join Frogwatch and John H, Plonk back. *I was hoping you would
back up your accusations, but innuendo and speculation is all you have.

Trying to talk to you is like arguing with the dining room table.

I warned you. *He's dumb as a stump. *At least a dining room table has
some style to it. *Steve can't handle having his assumptions tested.

What makes him think his aortic procedure wasn't going to be covered
by Obamacare? *If my father would have required it earlier this year,
it would have been covered by Medicare. *

These idiots don't have a clue nor do they care to. *As I said
earlier, they use the malarky to excite their pre-determined
prejudices.

i love the assumptions these morons make. they assume the only
healthcare that would be covered is euthanasia.

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:30:08 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 20, 11:45*pm, "SteveB" wrote:


Well, if this thing is approved, let's just keep count of how many five way
bypasses and aortic valve replacements there are. *Nothing like reality to
keep things straight. *My heart surgery was near $200k. *I doubt that would
have been covered under Obama.

and if you lost your job and had no health insurance

would it have been covered then?

Try reading.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...072865070.html

Then come back and argue against his points.

You'd rather whine.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:31:45 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 21, 12:50*am, jps wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:53:51 -0700, Jim wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
I think so, and want to be a poster child. *If health care were in the
state they want it to be during the last ten years, I would have been
dead nine. One of those who are too old to be worth the trouble and
expense.

Steve
Sorry to tell you, but no matter what Sara Palin told you, that death
panel thing isn't true.

Can't tell when you are being manipulated?

Well, if this thing is approved, let's just keep count of how many five way
bypasses and aortic valve replacements there are. *Nothing like reality to
keep things straight. *My heart surgery was near $200k. *I doubt that would
have been covered under Obama.

And yes, I can tell when I'm being manipulated, so .......... plonk.

Steve

You can join Frogwatch and John H, Plonk back. *I was hoping you would
back up your accusations, but innuendo and speculation is all you have.

Trying to talk to you is like arguing with the dining room table.

I warned you. *He's dumb as a stump. *At least a dining room table has
some style to it. *Steve can't handle having his assumptions tested.

What makes him think his aortic procedure wasn't going to be covered
by Obamacare? *If my father would have required it earlier this year,
it would have been covered by Medicare. *

These idiots don't have a clue nor do they care to. *As I said
earlier, they use the malarky to excite their pre-determined
prejudices.

i love the assumptions these morons make. they assume the only
healthcare that would be covered is euthanasia.

....and abortions, for sure. Or is Obama changing the name to
'reproductive care'?
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:37:33 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote:


Try reading.

http://online.wsj.com/article/
SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.html

Then come back and argue against his points.

"Recent scientific and medical evidence shows that a diet consisting of
foods that are plant-based, nutrient dense and low-fat will help prevent
and often reverse most degenerative diseases that kill us and are
expensive to treat. We should be able to live largely disease-free lives
until we are well into our 90s and even past 100 years of age."

Yeah, right. We don't need any health care reform. Hell, we don't even
need any health care. Just buy all your food from John Mackey, and
you'll live disease free past 100. His eight reforms, might help to
alleviate some of the spiraling costs, but they are a little short on
addressing the issues at hand. We are way beyond cost cutting measures
alone.

On Aug 21, 6:37*am, Guzzistimo wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:30:08 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 20, 11:45*pm, "SteveB" wrote:

Well, if this thing is approved, let's just keep count of how many five way
bypasses and aortic valve replacements there are. *Nothing like reality to
keep things straight. *My heart surgery was near $200k. *I doubt that would
have been covered under Obama.

and if you lost your job and had no health insurance

would it have been covered then?

Try reading.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57434217007286...

Then come back and argue against his points.

You'd rather whine.
--


try getting health insurance without a job. then come back and whine
that the rich are being treated unfairly.