"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:47:16 -0400, wrote:

That's pretty much the way I felt when I scored this $90 Compaq XP
machine. I am still running W98 on 3 or 4 machines around here tho. My
wife and I have XP Pro on the two we use all the time. There just got
to be too many new things not supported on W98 and I was dragged
kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

Win2K has got W98 beaten by the proverbial country mile, and you can
still get drivers for just about everything. It was a huge step
forward in reliability, ease of installation, processor support, you
name it. XP has a few nice features that I like but it was just a
small step for the average user.


NT was geared more toward the business users. XP took NT's engine and made
it more consumer friendly, that's all. It's NT in a pretty package. Vista is
worse than Me was, and they tried to do the same thing. Me was designed to
pretty up win98... Vista tried to do the same thing with XP. Both OS's
failed miserably in their tasks.

I was a beta tester from Win95 thru Vista. They listened to us for bugs
(most times), but turned a deaf ear when it came to useability, and
important features. They must figure that they know what the people want
more than the people.

The last experience with vista turned me off MS beta testing for good. I
turned down an invite for Windows 7, but it looks like they're just doing a
public beta anyway. I LOVE the public betas... they get you hooked on it,
and it works (maybe), then you have to buy it before the beta you have
expires. g Else you can delete the whole shebang and reinstall your old
OS.

At least with XP and Vista the testers were given 5 valid install keys for
their troubles... and there were plenty. ;-)

I'm probably sticking with XP until they drop support for it.

--Mike

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:55:56 -0700, "mgg" wrote:

I'm probably sticking with XP until they drop support for it.

XP is OK but Win2K is the OS that civilized NT. I had quite a bit of
experience installing NT on home machines and it could be a real bear
trying to find and install the right hardware drivers, and get the
IRQs assigned properly. Win2K was a real breath of fresh air when it
came out.

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:31:07 -0400, wrote:

My problem with XP is that it is such a resource hog.
If you don't need the features, why lug all that software around?.

It's kind of like the old IBM strategy where every new generation of
OS/MVS would force a hardware upgrade. :-)

If you think XP is a hog wait until you try Vista. The machine I'm
on now is a quad-core with 4 GB of RAM. Vista is running fine on
that.

On Aug 21, 7:58*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:31:07 -0400, wrote:
My problem with XP is that it is such a resource hog.
If you don't need the features, why lug all that software around?.

It's kind of like the old IBM strategy where every new generation of
OS/MVS would force a hardware upgrade. * :-)

If you think XP is a hog wait until you try Vista. * The machine I'm
on now is a quad-core with 4 GB of RAM. *Vista is running fine on
that.

the wife seems to liker her Vista laptop, but even she says it loads
slow.

Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 7:58 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:31:07 -0400, wrote:
My problem with XP is that it is such a resource hog.
If you don't need the features, why lug all that software around?.
It's kind of like the old IBM strategy where every new generation of
OS/MVS would force a hardware upgrade. :-)

If you think XP is a hog wait until you try Vista. The machine I'm
on now is a quad-core with 4 GB of RAM. Vista is running fine on
that.

the wife seems to liker her Vista laptop, but even she says it loads
slow.


How much memory in that laptop?

What is she loading at startup?

Those two factors have a lot to do with how quickly VISTA starts up.

On Aug 21, 9:46*pm, H the K wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 7:58 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:31:07 -0400, wrote:
My problem with XP is that it is such a resource hog.
If you don't need the features, why lug all that software around?.
It's kind of like the old IBM strategy where every new generation of
OS/MVS would force a hardware upgrade. * :-)

If you think XP is a hog wait until you try Vista. * The machine I'm
on now is a quad-core with 4 GB of RAM. *Vista is running fine on
that.

the wife seems to liker her Vista laptop, but even she says it loads
slow.

How much memory in that laptop?

What is she loading at startup?

Those two factors have a lot to do with how quickly VISTA starts up.

Beats me, Harry. I really dont' know, but the machine is a year old,
so it's probably got a good memory. I'm not really sure of the
protocol.

On Aug 20, 4:29*pm, Proprietario di Guzzi
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

My Dad's old computer quit and the local computer geek gave me a *new*
Windows 98 machine and installed my hard drive in it for all of 30
bucks!

I got a Compaq FS7600 monitor a few months ago for $15.00

So now I have internet access at the shop again.

Man, 45 bucks and I'm ready to go!

WOOO HOOOO!

Yippee!
--
John H.

"The truth is that unions are essentially parasitic organizations that
thrive only by draining and ultimately destroying the companies and
industries they control."

Yeah, John. I find out that I dont' have to have the best and latest
stuff on the market of anything. I have a cousin who does though, and
he has credit cards maxed to the point of being turned in to
collection on a regular basis. the double bad part is he has nothing
to show for it.

pretty irresponsible.

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Aug 20, 4:29 pm, Proprietario di Guzzi
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

My Dad's old computer quit and the local computer geek gave me a *new*
Windows 98 machine and installed my hard drive in it for all of 30
bucks!

I got a Compaq FS7600 monitor a few months ago for $15.00

So now I have internet access at the shop again.

Man, 45 bucks and I'm ready to go!

WOOO HOOOO!

Yippee!
--
John H.

"The truth is that unions are essentially parasitic organizations that
thrive only by draining and ultimately destroying the companies and
industries they control."

Yeah, John. I find out that I dont' have to have the best and latest
stuff on the market of anything. I have a cousin who does though, and
he has credit cards maxed to the point of being turned in to
collection on a regular basis. the double bad part is he has nothing
to show for it.

pretty irresponsible.

************************************************** **

Those companies who keep shoving credit cards in peoples faces are
irresponsible alos.
I was always getting offers from three or four companies.....trying to
convince me to take their card.

On Aug 22, 4:28*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Aug 20, 4:29 pm, Proprietario di Guzzi
wrote:



On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

My Dad's old computer quit and the local computer geek gave me a *new*
Windows 98 machine and installed my hard drive in it for all of 30
bucks!

I got a Compaq FS7600 monitor a few months ago for $15.00

So now I have internet access at the shop again.

Man, 45 bucks and I'm ready to go!

WOOO HOOOO!

Yippee!
--
John H.

"The truth is that unions are essentially parasitic organizations that
thrive only by draining and ultimately destroying the companies and
industries they control."

Yeah, John. I find out that I dont' have to have the best and latest
stuff on the market of anything. I have a cousin who does though, and
he has credit cards maxed to the point of being turned in to
collection on a regular basis. the double bad part is he has nothing
to show for it.

*pretty irresponsible.

************************************************** **

Those companies who keep shoving credit cards in peoples faces are
irresponsible alos.
I was always getting offers from three or four companies.....trying to
convince me to take their card.

I do too. and maybe there should be some shared responsibility there,
because the CC companies will let you go sink to the lowest and stay
there and never let you out unless you file bankruptcy or something
like that.

I really think that cards should have lower limits.

I do have a card which I use sparingly and it has a $5000.00 limit and
to someone like me, that's scary.

$2000.00 is plenty deep to me.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
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On Aug 20, 4:29 pm, Proprietario di Guzzi
wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

My Dad's old computer quit and the local computer geek gave me a *new*
Windows 98 machine and installed my hard drive in it for all of 30
bucks!

I got a Compaq FS7600 monitor a few months ago for $15.00

So now I have internet access at the shop again.

Man, 45 bucks and I'm ready to go!

WOOO HOOOO!

Yippee!
--
John H.

"The truth is that unions are essentially parasitic organizations that
thrive only by draining and ultimately destroying the companies and
industries they control."

Yeah, John. I find out that I dont' have to have the best and latest
stuff on the market of anything. I have a cousin who does though, and
he has credit cards maxed to the point of being turned in to
collection on a regular basis. the double bad part is he has nothing
to show for it.

pretty irresponsible.

************************************************** **

Those companies who keep shoving credit cards in peoples faces are
irresponsible alos.
I was always getting offers from three or four companies.....trying to
convince me to take their card.



Those CC companies are not irresponsible for sending out CC apps. They may
be irresponsible if they let a deadbeat have a card. But it is 100%
irresponsibility by a person overusing a CC card. Buying stuff they can not
afford.