On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:13:36 -0400, BAR wrote:


Your problem is that you believe your health care should be subsidized
by someone else. You believe that if you want something and you don't
have the ability to pay for it you should be able to steal the money
from someone else to pay for it. You are not better than a thug on the
street who steals from people walking along the sidewalk.

I thought we were talking health care insurance. You know, spreading the
risk around to prevent any one person having a financial catastrophe. If
you have insurance, and your house burns down, are you also a thug
stealing from people on the sidewalk?

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:13:36 -0400, BAR wrote:


Your problem is that you believe your health care should be subsidized
by someone else. You believe that if you want something and you don't
have the ability to pay for it you should be able to steal the money
from someone else to pay for it. You are not better than a thug on the
street who steals from people walking along the sidewalk.

I thought we were talking health care insurance. You know, spreading the
risk around to prevent any one person having a financial catastrophe. If
you have insurance, and your house burns down, are you also a thug
stealing from people on the sidewalk?

If you do not have a mortgage on your home are you compelled to have
insurance on your home?

If you own your automobile outright are you compelled to have
comprehensive insurance?

If you can afford to pay for your medical needs on a pay as you go basis
why should you be required to buy insurance?

Whatever happened to my body my choice?

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:13:36 -0400, BAR wrote:


Your problem is that you believe your health care should be subsidized
by someone else. You believe that if you want something and you don't
have the ability to pay for it you should be able to steal the money
from someone else to pay for it. You are not better than a thug on the
street who steals from people walking along the sidewalk.

I thought we were talking health care insurance. You know, spreading the
risk around to prevent any one person having a financial catastrophe. If
you have insurance, and your house burns down, are you also a thug
stealing from people on the sidewalk?


BAR is simply naive.

BAR wrote:


Whatever happened to my body my choice?


I'm sorry...where in the Constitution is that phrase found?
Please be specific.

In article ,
says...

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:13:36 -0400, BAR wrote:


Your problem is that you believe your health care should be subsidized
by someone else. You believe that if you want something and you don't
have the ability to pay for it you should be able to steal the money
from someone else to pay for it. You are not better than a thug on the
street who steals from people walking along the sidewalk.

I thought we were talking health care insurance. You know, spreading the
risk around to prevent any one person having a financial catastrophe. If
you have insurance, and your house burns down, are you also a thug
stealing from people on the sidewalk?

If you do not have a mortgage on your home are you compelled to have
insurance on your home?

If you own your automobile outright are you compelled to have
comprehensive insurance?

If you can afford to pay for your medical needs on a pay as you go basis
why should you be required to buy insurance?

Whatever happened to my body my choice?

It's no longer convenient. It was a bumper sticker, that's all. They
never really meant it for everybody, it was pointed toward one
particular voter block.

--
Wafa free since 2009

BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:13:36 -0400, BAR wrote:


Your problem is that you believe your health care should be subsidized
by someone else. You believe that if you want something and you don't
have the ability to pay for it you should be able to steal the money
from someone else to pay for it. You are not better than a thug on the
street who steals from people walking along the sidewalk.

I thought we were talking health care insurance. You know, spreading
the risk around to prevent any one person having a financial
catastrophe. If you have insurance, and your house burns down, are
you also a thug stealing from people on the sidewalk?

If you do not have a mortgage on your home are you compelled to have
insurance on your home?

If you own your automobile outright are you compelled to have
comprehensive insurance?

If you can afford to pay for your medical needs on a pay as you go basis
why should you be required to buy insurance?

Whatever happened to my body my choice?

That sounds like a Krausism that he uses when he talks about abortion
rights.

On Aug 20, 8:13*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 7:25 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 10:26 pm, JustWait wrote:
Yup, we are so glad that your party knows all of our motives and
thoughts, needs, and desires... Now maybe you can sit in a closed room
with the Unions and decide what we should all do with our lives, oh, and
of course our money.. Man, thank God you are so much smarter than the
rest of us...
as opposed to dick cheney hiding in a back room with the chairman of
exxon to figure out the energy policy of the US...and getting us into
a war over that very policy
Or Hillary Clinton hiding in the back room with Big health care plotting
the take over of 1/7 of the US economy. You seem to forget that the
Clinton's provided the template.

we need healthcare since the private sector has failed.

The private sector hasn't failed.

really? we have the most expensive healthcare in the world and our
life expectancy is the same as any other advanced country

so when you buy a car do you tell the dealer you want to pay twice
what anyone else pays? is that how you measure 'success'?

You can walk into any doctors office
and be seen. All you have to do is pull out your wallet and pay for the
services you receive.

ah. i suppose you keep $100,000 in your wallet? must be a big freakin'
wallet.


Your problem is that you believe your health care should be subsidized
by someone else.

everybody's health care is subsidized by someone else. if you have
health insurance and dont get sick you're subsidizing someone else

you right wingers just aren't that bright, are you? you have your
'ozzie and harriet' view of society and, by golly, everything's
peachy.


You believe that if you want something and you don't
have the ability to pay for it you should be able to steal the money
from someone else to pay for it. You are not better than a thug on the
street who steals from people walking along the sidewalk.

so when do you think your mom's gonna tell you that the easter bunny
doesn't exist?

any other fairy tales you want to spin while you're here?

On Aug 20, 9:30*am, BAR wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:13:36 -0400, BAR wrote:

Your problem is that you believe your health care should be subsidized
by someone else. You believe that if you want something and you don't
have the ability to pay for it you should be able to steal the money
from someone else to pay for it. You are not better than a thug on the
street who steals from people walking along the sidewalk.

I thought we were talking health care insurance. *You know, spreading the
risk around to prevent any one person having a financial catastrophe. *If
you have insurance, and your house burns down, are you also a thug
stealing from people on the sidewalk?

If you do not have a mortgage on your home are you compelled to have
insurance on your home?

If you own your automobile outright are you compelled to have
comprehensive insurance?

If you can afford to pay for your medical needs on a pay as you go basis
why should you be required to buy insurance?


another right wing fairy tale. he believes that the middle class is so
rich it can afford a mortgage AND to pay out of pocket for critical
medical care.

no wonder rich folks like idiots like him. he'll say ANYTHING, no
matter HOW ridiculous, as long as the rich pat him on the head like
the puppy he is.

and he changes his own newspaper, too!

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 1:04 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).
correct on all counts. now we just have to convince the idiots of the
truth
Actually, we don't. The majority of Americans voted for change, both for
Congress and for the presidency. That change can take place without
compromising the vox populi. I don't believe that their minds can be
changed. It's interesting, actually. I vote and act against my own
self-interest all the time. The same goes for those opposed to true reform.
The difference is that I know I'm doing that. The latter is what fear-based
rhetoric gets done.
Yup, we are so glad that your party knows all of our motives and
thoughts, needs, and desires... Now maybe you can sit in a closed room
with the Unions and decide what we should all do with our lives, oh, and
of course our money.. Man, thank God you are so much smarter than the
rest of us...

You all claim to know all of the liberal's motives and thoughts, needs
and desires.......

Well, we have a pretty good idea based on history and being informed..
Either way, I don't want them shoved down my throat with my HALF of the
country not having any say. The Nuclear option is being discussed in
Washington as we speak... Jam it through cause we are stupid, right,
America..

Then you'd agree we have a pretty good idea of what the conservatives
wants, too then, right? So, history under Bush tells us that you all
want bigger government, a huge deficit, war, secrecy in government, etc.

H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:


Whatever happened to my body my choice?


I'm sorry...where in the Constitution is that phrase found?
Please be specific.

Roe vs. Wade, 1973. I'm sure you are familiar with the Supreme Court's
ruling on this issue.