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"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response has no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical sense if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:38:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response has no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical sense if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

You've run smack into the bumper sticker queen of rec.boats. The
Freak spits 'em out like a kid pumps water from a squirt gun.

Ask him about Pelosi and get ready for an adventure into the deep
woods of Virginia. Single note banjo music will come to mind.

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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response has no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical sense if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them. You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

--
Nom=de=Plume

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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them. You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

Have you read this guys posts.. every line has a grade school insult in
it, he writes like Harry taking cheap shots from under his desk, trying
to kill the pain...

Even Gene, who really falls more on your side of the isle than mine, has
mocked the guy and called him to the carpet several times...

--
Wafa free since 2009

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the
bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration
has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility
of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration
didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a
war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for
going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and
certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible
debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response
has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical
sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them.
You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with
jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

Have you read this guys posts.. every line has a grade school insult in
it, he writes like Harry taking cheap shots from under his desk, trying
to kill the pain...

Even Gene, who really falls more on your side of the isle than mine, has
mocked the guy and called him to the carpet several times...

--
Wafa free since 2009


What's that got to do with me? If you don't want to respond to my comments
about your post, then I'm not sure what the point is of attempting to have a
civil discourse. Let's assume for the moment that Harry is a terrible person
and Gene agrees with you on this. Make a logical argument. I'm willing to
listen.


--
Nom=de=Plume

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:01:57 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the
bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration
has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility
of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration
didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a
war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for
going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and
certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible
debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response
has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical
sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them.
You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with
jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

Have you read this guys posts.. every line has a grade school insult in
it, he writes like Harry taking cheap shots from under his desk, trying
to kill the pain...

Even Gene, who really falls more on your side of the isle than mine, has
mocked the guy and called him to the carpet several times...

--
Wafa free since 2009


What's that got to do with me? If you don't want to respond to my comments
about your post, then I'm not sure what the point is of attempting to have a
civil discourse. Let's assume for the moment that Harry is a terrible person
and Gene agrees with you on this. Make a logical argument. I'm willing to
listen.

You'll have to be very patient and willing to write an awful lot for a
modicum of thought.

Best of luck.

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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the
bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration
has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility
of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration
didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a
war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for
going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and
certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible
debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response
has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical
sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them.
You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with
jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

Have you read this guys posts.. every line has a grade school insult in
it, he writes like Harry taking cheap shots from under his desk, trying
to kill the pain...

Even Gene, who really falls more on your side of the isle than mine, has
mocked the guy and called him to the carpet several times...

--
Wafa free since 2009


What's that got to do with me? If you don't want to respond to my comments
about your post, then I'm not sure what the point is of attempting to have a
civil discourse. Let's assume for the moment that Harry is a terrible person
and Gene agrees with you on this. Make a logical argument. I'm willing to
listen.

You really can't follow a conversation can you?? Pffffttt...

--
Wafa free since 2009

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was
the
bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan
because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going
to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has
accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current
administration
has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of
responsbility
of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration
didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice
vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in
both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a
war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for
going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and
certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a
bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible
debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response
has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical
sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for
the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on
Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing
people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them.
You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with
jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

Have you read this guys posts.. every line has a grade school insult in
it, he writes like Harry taking cheap shots from under his desk, trying
to kill the pain...

Even Gene, who really falls more on your side of the isle than mine,
has
mocked the guy and called him to the carpet several times...

--
Wafa free since 2009


What's that got to do with me? If you don't want to respond to my
comments
about your post, then I'm not sure what the point is of attempting to
have a
civil discourse. Let's assume for the moment that Harry is a terrible
person
and Gene agrees with you on this. Make a logical argument. I'm willing to
listen.

You really can't follow a conversation can you?? Pffffttt...

--
Wafa free since 2009


As I suspected, you're just a troll. Sorry to have wasted your time with me.
I don't play.

Out...


--
Nom=de=Plume

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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the
bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration
has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility
of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration
didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a
war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for
going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and
certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible
debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response
has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical
sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them.
You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with
jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

Have you read this guys posts.. every line has a grade school insult in
it, he writes like Harry taking cheap shots from under his desk, trying
to kill the pain...

Even Gene, who really falls more on your side of the isle than mine, has
mocked the guy and called him to the carpet several times...

--
Wafa free since 2009


What's that got to do with me? If you don't want to respond to my comments
about your post, then I'm not sure what the point is of attempting to have a
civil discourse. Let's assume for the moment that Harry is a terrible person
and Gene agrees with you on this. Make a logical argument. I'm willing to
listen.

Oh, yeah.. Gravity.... Buh, bye... Plonk

--
Wafa free since 2009