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Snerk of the week
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I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE ****HEEL This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration. At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school. After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department. I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right. |
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On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:57:50 -0400, H the K
wrote: (floating around the 'net...grammar errors included) I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE ****HEEL This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration. At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school. After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department. I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right. Brilliant, even without mentioning a hundred other agencies that make our lives safer and more comfortable. |
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On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:34:10 -0700, jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:57:50 -0400, H the K wrote: (floating around the 'net...grammar errors included) I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE ****HEEL This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration. At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school. After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department. I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right. Brilliant, even without mentioning a hundred other agencies that make our lives safer and more comfortable. Sold your soul to the devil for a little security and comfort? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:37 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:53:55 -0700, jps wrote: On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:56:49 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:34:10 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:57:50 -0400, H the K wrote: (floating around the 'net...grammar errors included) I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE ****HEEL This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration. At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school. After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department. I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right. Brilliant, even without mentioning a hundred other agencies that make our lives safer and more comfortable. Sold your soul to the devil for a little security and comfort? No, haven't sold my soul at all. I'm for the common good, all ships in the harbor... Where is the common good in foisting an indifferent, insensate, behemoth of government on a hard-working peoples? It's unconscionable. Are you referring to corporate insurers? How could the federal government be any more insensitive and unconsionable than corporations who find ways to deny coverage and kick people off their roles who are higher risk? The public option is the only thing that's going to force these assholes to behave more like decent citizens. |
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:47:47 -0700, jps wrote:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:37 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:53:55 -0700, jps wrote: On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:56:49 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:34:10 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:57:50 -0400, H the K wrote: (floating around the 'net...grammar errors included) I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE ****HEEL This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration. At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school. After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department. I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right. Brilliant, even without mentioning a hundred other agencies that make our lives safer and more comfortable. Sold your soul to the devil for a little security and comfort? No, haven't sold my soul at all. I'm for the common good, all ships in the harbor... Where is the common good in foisting an indifferent, insensate, behemoth of government on a hard-working peoples? It's unconscionable. Are you referring to corporate insurers? How could the federal government be any more insensitive and unconsionable than corporations who find ways to deny coverage and kick people off their roles who are higher risk? The public option is the only thing that's going to force these assholes to behave more like decent citizens. A public option, as it is currently framed in the conversation, will invariably drive private insurer's out of the market. "Corporate insurers" currently compete against each other for your business, and the marketplace is replete with providers that compete with each other. The contention that a public option will keep providers honest is itself a dishonesty. Insurers have to keep premiums as low as possible in the free market if they are to remain viable. And if providers are required to carry all applicants without consideration of medical history, most providers would not be able to remain viable. Too, there are organizations that provide various forms of indemnification for the uninsurable. But, as in all insurances, higher premiums are required. And all states have policy renewal and cancellation regulations. Health insurers are subject to oversight and state regulation. And the states generally shape their legislation and regulations to conform to the recommendations of the NAIC. Likewise, the standard for pre-x, or pre-existing conditions is that any condition that could have been reasonably diagnosed by a physician 12 months prior to the activation date of the policy is not covered for 12 months following that date. Too, most insurers for an array of conditions, will attach riders to policies that will exclude coverage for those conditions for approximately 2 years after which those conditions will be covered. If a public option is approved and installed, necessarily and ultimately most citizens will have to subordinate themselves to that option. And the the insidious, unassailable truth of this is that without the competition of the free market to keep it streamlined, efficient, and honest, the public option will inexorably provide mediocre health care, and that on a good day. Why is it that so few can think this through? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:49:49 -0500, jpjccd wrote:
A public option, as it is currently framed in the conversation, will invariably drive private insurer's out of the market. "Corporate insurers" currently compete against each other for your business, and the marketplace is replete with providers that compete with each other. The contention that a public option will keep providers honest is itself a dishonesty. Insurers have to keep premiums as low as possible in the free market if they are to remain viable. And if providers are required to carry all applicants without consideration of medical history, most providers would not be able to remain viable. Too, there are organizations that provide various forms of indemnification for the uninsurable. But, as in all insurances, higher premiums are required. And all states have policy renewal and cancellation regulations. Health insurers are subject to oversight and state regulation. And the states generally shape their legislation and regulations to conform to the recommendations of the NAIC. Likewise, the standard for pre-x, or pre-existing conditions is that any condition that could have been reasonably diagnosed by a physician 12 months prior to the activation date of the policy is not covered for 12 months following that date. Too, most insurers for an array of conditions, will attach riders to policies that will exclude coverage for those conditions for approximately 2 years after which those conditions will be covered. If a public option is approved and installed, necessarily and ultimately most citizens will have to subordinate themselves to that option. And the the insidious, unassailable truth of this is that without the competition of the free market to keep it streamlined, efficient, and honest, the public option will inexorably provide mediocre health care, and that on a good day. Why is it that so few can think this through? Quite a few people have thought this through. That's why there is a need for a public option. You think that the marketplace is competitive. The reality is it's reaching monopoly status. http://www.marke****ch.com/story/stu...monopoly-fears http://www.capitalgainsandgames.com/...lth-insurance- oxymoron |
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:20:13 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:49:49 -0500, jpjccd wrote: A public option, as it is currently framed in the conversation, will invariably drive private insurer's out of the market. "Corporate insurers" currently compete against each other for your business, and the marketplace is replete with providers that compete with each other. The contention that a public option will keep providers honest is itself a dishonesty. Insurers have to keep premiums as low as possible in the free market if they are to remain viable. And if providers are required to carry all applicants without consideration of medical history, most providers would not be able to remain viable. Too, there are organizations that provide various forms of indemnification for the uninsurable. But, as in all insurances, higher premiums are required. And all states have policy renewal and cancellation regulations. Health insurers are subject to oversight and state regulation. And the states generally shape their legislation and regulations to conform to the recommendations of the NAIC. Likewise, the standard for pre-x, or pre-existing conditions is that any condition that could have been reasonably diagnosed by a physician 12 months prior to the activation date of the policy is not covered for 12 months following that date. Too, most insurers for an array of conditions, will attach riders to policies that will exclude coverage for those conditions for approximately 2 years after which those conditions will be covered. If a public option is approved and installed, necessarily and ultimately most citizens will have to subordinate themselves to that option. And the the insidious, unassailable truth of this is that without the competition of the free market to keep it streamlined, efficient, and honest, the public option will inexorably provide mediocre health care, and that on a good day. Why is it that so few can think this through? Quite a few people have thought this through. That's why there is a need for a public option. You think that the marketplace is competitive. The reality is it's reaching monopoly status. http://www.marke****ch.com/story/stu...monopoly-fears http://www.capitalgainsandgames.com/...lth-insurance- oxymoron http://ezinearticles.com/?Illinois-H...nies&id=271269 The marketplace is competitive. And as the first article intimates, among other things, antitrust legislation (or simply the threat of) is a capable tool to discourage monopolistic efforts. Likewise, the article illustrates state roles in managing the marketplace, and states have options available for their respective residents. The fact remains that states can determine their respective domestic insurers. A federal public option will follow the course I outlined above. It's a pernicious ploy, and it is a design for political gain, nothing else. It's inhumane. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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"thunder" wrote in message ... On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:49:49 -0500, jpjccd wrote: A public option, as it is currently framed in the conversation, will invariably drive private insurer's out of the market. "Corporate insurers" currently compete against each other for your business, and the marketplace is replete with providers that compete with each other. The contention that a public option will keep providers honest is itself a dishonesty. Insurers have to keep premiums as low as possible in the free market if they are to remain viable. And if providers are required to carry all applicants without consideration of medical history, most providers would not be able to remain viable. Too, there are organizations that provide various forms of indemnification for the uninsurable. But, as in all insurances, higher premiums are required. And all states have policy renewal and cancellation regulations. Health insurers are subject to oversight and state regulation. And the states generally shape their legislation and regulations to conform to the recommendations of the NAIC. Likewise, the standard for pre-x, or pre-existing conditions is that any condition that could have been reasonably diagnosed by a physician 12 months prior to the activation date of the policy is not covered for 12 months following that date. Too, most insurers for an array of conditions, will attach riders to policies that will exclude coverage for those conditions for approximately 2 years after which those conditions will be covered. If a public option is approved and installed, necessarily and ultimately most citizens will have to subordinate themselves to that option. And the the insidious, unassailable truth of this is that without the competition of the free market to keep it streamlined, efficient, and honest, the public option will inexorably provide mediocre health care, and that on a good day. Why is it that so few can think this through? Quite a few people have thought this through. That's why there is a need for a public option. You think that the marketplace is competitive. The reality is it's reaching monopoly status. http://www.marke****ch.com/story/stu...monopoly-fears http://www.capitalgainsandgames.com/...lth-insurance- oxymoron Now, what's the party line in light of this from Bloomerg? Aug. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said providing citizens with the option of government-run insurance isn’t essential to the Obama administration’s proposed overhaul of U.S. health care. “What’s important is choice and competition,” Sebelius said today on CNN’s “State of the Union.” The public option itself “is not the essential element.” Asked if a cooperative plan is a possible replacement, Sebelius said she didn’t know what alternatives Congress would settle on among competing versions of the health legislation now under consideration. The Senate Finance Committee is discussing cooperatives, or networks of health-insurance plans owned by their customers, that would get started with government funds. Sebelius’ comments suggest that the Obama administration may be considering backing off its commitment to create a government-run health insurance system to operate alongside private insurers in order to get health legislation passed. “There are not the votes in the Senate for the public option, there never have been,” North Dakota Senator Kent Conrad, one of the lead Democratic negotiators on health care in the Finance Committee, said on “Fox News Sunday.” “To continue to chase that rabbit, I think, is just a wasted effort,” he said. “President Obama and his cabinet have read the tea leaves,” said Senator Richard Shelby, an Alabama Republican, on the Fox program. The American people “don’t want a government- run program,” Shelby said. Shelby also said that the creation of co-ops, while “that would be government involvement” would be “a step in the right direction.” |
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