http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aPbfclqokwcw

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aPbfclqokwcw

That reminds me of the NASCAR movie that Tom Cruise made were undreds
if not thousands of gallons of high octane fuel were used, not
counting black billows of tire smoke and cars burning. Interesting
that at the time Cruise was quite a spokesman for reducing polution
and cleaning up the environment.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601170
&refer=home&sid=aPbfclqo
kwcw

"Carbon dioxide is the main greenhouse gas responsible for the
higher temperatures that are causing a surge in sea levels and an
increased risk of droughts and floods, according to UN reports.
The goal of the Bali meeting is a deadline for a new
international treaty to limit emissions after the current accord,
called the Kyoto Protocol, expires in 2012."

This is the usual TOTAL LIE. CO2 is NOT the greenhouse gas,
WATER VAPOR FROM THE OCEAN IS! They can't believe people are so
stupid, can they?

Damn government funded *******s are driving fuel and vehicles
throught he roof with this crap! Look he
http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVF..._400k_yrs.html
Today is the LEFT END of this 400,000 year chart made from the
ice core samples across the planet. Print it out and put it on
your chart tables so you can plot vertical lines on it.....

Now, lay a t-square on the chart so it intersects BOTH CO2 and
temperature charts. Put the line on a peak of TEMPERATURE then
look at the CO2 chart. Notice how the CO2 level increases
HUNDREDS OF YEARS AFTER THE TEMP, caused by the SUN cycles,
increases? AFTER!, not before. SUN CYCLES CAUSE CO2 TO RISE
BECAUSE THE OCEAN GROWS AND RELEASES MORE CO2 AFTER IT WARMS UP!

AFTERAFTERAFTERnot before!

Now, look at that damned hockey stick on the left they always
panic about since 2000. Now, isn't it a funny coincidence that
that line rose to prominence EXACTLY WHEN THE FUNDING DID! As
FUNDING for the global warming religion rises....that line rises
with it!

Let's test that, too:
http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVF...t_500_yrs.html
Here's their hockey stick, again today is on the LEFT. Look at
the temperature chart. IN the last 150 years, the temperature
has risen .4 degrees? There's no hockey stick there! Algore
says temperature (GLOBAL WARMING) is going through the roof!
BULL****, PEOPLE, FUNDING BULL****! 200 years ago it was a whole
degree WARMER...it's cooled since then when we started measuring
more often. Look at 400 years ago...back 100,000
years....TEMPERATURE IS NOWHERE NEAR ANY WARMING BECAUSE CO2 DOES
NOT CAUSE THE TEMPERATURE TO VARY.....THE SUN DOES AND MAN CAN DO
NOTHING ABOUT IT!

DAMN THEM ALL! Nuke the conference and shut down the money
wasting and this will all go away.....

Here's the truth, unobstructed by the MONEY. John Baez has been
studying climate all his life. There are the facts:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/

Larry
--
From 1940 to 1975 the Earth got COLDER, exactly when we blew half
the planet all to hell (WW2), tested atomic weapons and rockets,
had factories just POURING CO2 OUT OF MANUFACTURING AND COAL
FIRED ELECTRIC PLANTS, and filled the place with gas guzzling V-8
cars with NO POLLUTION CONTROLS AT ALL, JUST LIKE THE
FACTORIES.....AND IT GOT COLDER!!! Why? FUNDING then was
struggling with the impending ICE AGE! In 1975, when the "ice
age" ended, the FUNDING ENDED! Duhhhhh.....(c;


Stupid...people are just stupid.

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 05:31:18 +0000, Larry wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601170
&refer=home&sid=aPbfclqo
kwcw

"Carbon dioxide is the main greenhouse gas responsible for the
higher temperatures that are causing a surge in sea levels and an
increased risk of droughts and floods, according to UN reports.
The goal of the Bali meeting is a deadline for a new
international treaty to limit emissions after the current accord,
called the Kyoto Protocol, expires in 2012."

This is the usual TOTAL LIE. CO2 is NOT the greenhouse gas,
WATER VAPOR FROM THE OCEAN IS! They can't believe people are so
stupid, can they?

Damn government funded *******s are driving fuel and vehicles
throught he roof with this crap! Look he
http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVF..._400k_yrs.html
Today is the LEFT END of this 400,000 year chart made from the
ice core samples across the planet. Print it out and put it on
your chart tables so you can plot vertical lines on it.....

Now, lay a t-square on the chart so it intersects BOTH CO2 and
temperature charts. Put the line on a peak of TEMPERATURE then
look at the CO2 chart. Notice how the CO2 level increases
HUNDREDS OF YEARS AFTER THE TEMP, caused by the SUN cycles,
increases? AFTER!, not before. SUN CYCLES CAUSE CO2 TO RISE
BECAUSE THE OCEAN GROWS AND RELEASES MORE CO2 AFTER IT WARMS UP!

AFTERAFTERAFTERnot before!

Now, look at that damned hockey stick on the left they always
panic about since 2000. Now, isn't it a funny coincidence that
that line rose to prominence EXACTLY WHEN THE FUNDING DID! As
FUNDING for the global warming religion rises....that line rises
with it!

Let's test that, too:
http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVF...t_500_yrs.html
Here's their hockey stick, again today is on the LEFT. Look at
the temperature chart. IN the last 150 years, the temperature
has risen .4 degrees? There's no hockey stick there! Algore
says temperature (GLOBAL WARMING) is going through the roof!
BULL****, PEOPLE, FUNDING BULL****! 200 years ago it was a whole
degree WARMER...it's cooled since then when we started measuring
more often. Look at 400 years ago...back 100,000
years....TEMPERATURE IS NOWHERE NEAR ANY WARMING BECAUSE CO2 DOES
NOT CAUSE THE TEMPERATURE TO VARY.....THE SUN DOES AND MAN CAN DO
NOTHING ABOUT IT!

DAMN THEM ALL! Nuke the conference and shut down the money
wasting and this will all go away.....

Here's the truth, unobstructed by the MONEY. John Baez has been
studying climate all his life. There are the facts:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/

Larry

There you go talking about the 'Secret Chart' again.
--
John H

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 05:31:18 +0000, Larry wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in
m:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601170
&refer=home&sid=aPbfclqo
kwcw

"Carbon dioxide is the main greenhouse gas responsible for the
higher temperatures that are causing a surge in sea levels and an
increased risk of droughts and floods, according to UN reports.
The goal of the Bali meeting is a deadline for a new
international treaty to limit emissions after the current accord,
called the Kyoto Protocol, expires in 2012."

This is the usual TOTAL LIE. CO2 is NOT the greenhouse gas,
WATER VAPOR FROM THE OCEAN IS! They can't believe people are so
stupid, can they?

Damn government funded *******s are driving fuel and vehicles
throught he roof with this crap! Look he
http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVF..._400k_yrs.html
Today is the LEFT END of this 400,000 year chart made from the
ice core samples across the planet. Print it out and put it on
your chart tables so you can plot vertical lines on it.....

Now, lay a t-square on the chart so it intersects BOTH CO2 and
temperature charts. Put the line on a peak of TEMPERATURE then
look at the CO2 chart. Notice how the CO2 level increases
HUNDREDS OF YEARS AFTER THE TEMP, caused by the SUN cycles,
increases? AFTER!, not before. SUN CYCLES CAUSE CO2 TO RISE
BECAUSE THE OCEAN GROWS AND RELEASES MORE CO2 AFTER IT WARMS UP!

AFTERAFTERAFTERnot before!

Now, look at that damned hockey stick on the left they always
panic about since 2000. Now, isn't it a funny coincidence that
that line rose to prominence EXACTLY WHEN THE FUNDING DID! As
FUNDING for the global warming religion rises....that line rises
with it!

Let's test that, too:
http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVF...t_500_yrs.html
Here's their hockey stick, again today is on the LEFT. Look at
the temperature chart. IN the last 150 years, the temperature
has risen .4 degrees? There's no hockey stick there! Algore
says temperature (GLOBAL WARMING) is going through the roof!
BULL****, PEOPLE, FUNDING BULL****! 200 years ago it was a whole
degree WARMER...it's cooled since then when we started measuring
more often. Look at 400 years ago...back 100,000
years....TEMPERATURE IS NOWHERE NEAR ANY WARMING BECAUSE CO2 DOES
NOT CAUSE THE TEMPERATURE TO VARY.....THE SUN DOES AND MAN CAN DO
NOTHING ABOUT IT!

DAMN THEM ALL! Nuke the conference and shut down the money
wasting and this will all go away.....

Here's the truth, unobstructed by the MONEY. John Baez has been
studying climate all his life. There are the facts:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/

Larry

There you go talking about the 'Secret Chart' again.
--
John H

Todays paper has a couple of articles talking about a "Carbon Tax" on fuel
in the San Francisco Bay area and also a state tax to "help fight global
warming". Seems to me as just another way to grab more money for the state
and transit districts.