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That damned Clinton
Another John wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:41:44 -0400, NotNow wrote: Little John wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:55:00 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:41:31 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:00:54 -0700, jps wrote: We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package. The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US will pay up. That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling. We gave them a photo op. KJI made it into a state visit to bolster his own image within the country. He's trying to manipulate handing power to his son and he's not doing as well as he'd like in the being worshipped department. This was purely KJI proving that he had the stones and the leverage to get a former president to come to NK. If we gave them anything, it'd have come through the State Department and official channels. I am sure the concessions did come through the State Department. The former president does speak to the SoS occasionally ... I imagine. The deal was that Clinton's appearance would reflect well on dear leader. That was payment enough. That's what the right wing talk show guys were saying. That is the minimum payment he got. -- John H John, did you happen to catch the home coming of the reporters? Maybe you should try to tell them it was all a staged event to make Obama look better, and that you think Clinton should not have gone there to get them even though Kim asked that he do so to gain their release. Now that you mention it, the news this morning presented the fact that telephone negotiations about who, what, when, where, have been underway for some time. Was it a staged event? It sure as hell wasn't a 'spur of the moment' thing! -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Go tell the reporters and their families and children that they should go back and turn themselves back to Kim to begin their 15 years of hard labor because you think the only reason the admin. did it was to look good. Now, I'm sure that if it were a republican that did this exact same thing, in your eyes that would have been the greatest humanitarian effort ever. Hell, you totally agreed with Bush about Iraq. A war that was several years long, thousands of innocent people killed, loss of U.S. military servicemen, because of humanitarian reasons. A liberal goes and has talks with someone, get's two U.S. reporters freed and it's all bull**** to you. Pure reverse Harry. |
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