http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw

On Aug 4, 7:39*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw

Maybe they're eating Zebra mussels?

On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 05:41:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 4, 7:39*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw

Maybe they're eating Zebra mussels?

Those haven't learned to live in the bay yet. They'll probably arrive
with the snakeheads.
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John H

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:39:57 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw

That *is* some good news. One little light in a sea of gloom. Now if
they'd stop the menhaden fishing, the sewage dumping up north, and
kill the mute swans, they'd be on the right path.
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John H

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:05:48 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:32:59 -0400, Little John
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:39:57 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw

That *is* some good news. One little light in a sea of gloom. Now if
they'd stop the menhaden fishing, the sewage dumping up north, and
kill the mute swans, they'd be on the right path.

How is the "oil" and fecal coliform problem going?
I know when I was there people said there was a layer of sludge on the
bottom of the bay from all the people who flush oil down the toilet
and from the street runoff of several major cities that use the bay
for a sewer.

Who the hell would flush oil down the toilet?

Coilforms are basically just the chicken farms but some also comes
from bad sewer plants and septic tanks. The show PBS ran on the
problems in the bay showed the chicken farmers are still dumping raw
chicken **** in the creeks that feed the bay. It is hard to argue with
aerial photos of it happening.

I still would not eat an oyster from that bay, and certainly not
without cooking it.

Cooking probably won't help if there's chemicals and heavy metals in
the mix.

--Vic

wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:21:25 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I know when I was there people said there was a layer of sludge on the
bottom of the bay from all the people who flush oil down the toilet
and from the street runoff of several major cities that use the bay
for a sewer.
Who the hell would flush oil down the toilet?

People too lazy to take it to a recycle place?



Some of the sludge also comes from freighters on their way to
Baltimore...there have been incidents of their crews flushing ballast in
the bilges.

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:45:31 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:21:25 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I know when I was there people said there was a layer of sludge on the
bottom of the bay from all the people who flush oil down the toilet
and from the street runoff of several major cities that use the bay
for a sewer.

Who the hell would flush oil down the toilet?

People too lazy to take it to a recycle place?

Before recycling we used to just funnel the old stuff back into the
jugs, or a plastic gallon milk bottles and toss it in the trash for
delivery to the landfill.
Even now you could do that if you were too lazy to do right.
Be pretty stupid and take more work to dump it in the toilet.
You made that up. (-:

--Vic

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:45:31 -0400, wrote:

Who the hell would flush oil down the toilet?

People too lazy to take it to a recycle place?

I believe the vast majority of pollutants enter the water via storm
drains. You can see the result every time it rains. And I'm sure
there are probably some people pouring waste oil down the storm drains
just to get rid of it.

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:05:48 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:32:59 -0400, Little John
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:39:57 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw

That *is* some good news. One little light in a sea of gloom. Now if
they'd stop the menhaden fishing, the sewage dumping up north, and
kill the mute swans, they'd be on the right path.

How is the "oil" and fecal coliform problem going?
I know when I was there people said there was a layer of sludge on the
bottom of the bay from all the people who flush oil down the toilet
and from the street runoff of several major cities that use the bay
for a sewer.
Coilforms are basically just the chicken farms but some also comes
from bad sewer plants and septic tanks. The show PBS ran on the
problems in the bay showed the chicken farmers are still dumping raw
chicken **** in the creeks that feed the bay. It is hard to argue with
aerial photos of it happening.

I still would not eat an oyster from that bay, and certainly not
without cooking it.

This is how bad things were six years ago. They've gotten worse.

http://www.cbf.org/Document.Doc?id=321
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John H

Little John wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:05:48 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:32:59 -0400, Little John
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:39:57 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw
That *is* some good news. One little light in a sea of gloom. Now if
they'd stop the menhaden fishing, the sewage dumping up north, and
kill the mute swans, they'd be on the right path.
How is the "oil" and fecal coliform problem going?
I know when I was there people said there was a layer of sludge on the
bottom of the bay from all the people who flush oil down the toilet
and from the street runoff of several major cities that use the bay
for a sewer.
Coilforms are basically just the chicken farms but some also comes
from bad sewer plants and septic tanks. The show PBS ran on the
problems in the bay showed the chicken farmers are still dumping raw
chicken **** in the creeks that feed the bay. It is hard to argue with
aerial photos of it happening.

I still would not eat an oyster from that bay, and certainly not
without cooking it.

This is how bad things were six years ago. They've gotten worse.

http://www.cbf.org/Document.Doc?id=321
--

John H

That's odd. If people listened to Harry, they'd think the bay was the
best place in the world to boat, fish, and live.....