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Wizard of Woodstock August 4th 09 01:39 PM

Good Chesapeake Bay news...
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw

Tim August 4th 09 01:41 PM

Good Chesapeake Bay news...
 
On Aug 4, 7:39*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw


Maybe they're eating Zebra mussels?

Little John[_3_] August 4th 09 05:32 PM

Good Chesapeake Bay news...
 
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:39:57 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw


That *is* some good news. One little light in a sea of gloom. Now if
they'd stop the menhaden fishing, the sewage dumping up north, and
kill the mute swans, they'd be on the right path.
--

John H

Little John[_3_] August 4th 09 05:33 PM

Good Chesapeake Bay news...
 
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 05:41:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 4, 7:39*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw


Maybe they're eating Zebra mussels?


Those haven't learned to live in the bay yet. They'll probably arrive
with the snakeheads.
--

John H

Vic Smith August 4th 09 07:21 PM

Good Chesapeake Bay news...
 
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:05:48 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:32:59 -0400, Little John
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:39:57 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw

That *is* some good news. One little light in a sea of gloom. Now if
they'd stop the menhaden fishing, the sewage dumping up north, and
kill the mute swans, they'd be on the right path.


How is the "oil" and fecal coliform problem going?
I know when I was there people said there was a layer of sludge on the
bottom of the bay from all the people who flush oil down the toilet
and from the street runoff of several major cities that use the bay
for a sewer.


Who the hell would flush oil down the toilet?

Coilforms are basically just the chicken farms but some also comes
from bad sewer plants and septic tanks. The show PBS ran on the
problems in the bay showed the chicken farmers are still dumping raw
chicken **** in the creeks that feed the bay. It is hard to argue with
aerial photos of it happening.

I still would not eat an oyster from that bay, and certainly not
without cooking it.


Cooking probably won't help if there's chemicals and heavy metals in
the mix.

--Vic

Little John[_3_] August 4th 09 08:51 PM

Good Chesapeake Bay news...
 
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:05:48 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:32:59 -0400, Little John
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:39:57 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw

That *is* some good news. One little light in a sea of gloom. Now if
they'd stop the menhaden fishing, the sewage dumping up north, and
kill the mute swans, they'd be on the right path.


How is the "oil" and fecal coliform problem going?
I know when I was there people said there was a layer of sludge on the
bottom of the bay from all the people who flush oil down the toilet
and from the street runoff of several major cities that use the bay
for a sewer.
Coilforms are basically just the chicken farms but some also comes
from bad sewer plants and septic tanks. The show PBS ran on the
problems in the bay showed the chicken farmers are still dumping raw
chicken **** in the creeks that feed the bay. It is hard to argue with
aerial photos of it happening.

I still would not eat an oyster from that bay, and certainly not
without cooking it.


This is how bad things were six years ago. They've gotten worse.

http://www.cbf.org/Document.Doc?id=321
--

John H

H the K August 4th 09 08:52 PM

Good Chesapeake Bay news...
 
wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:21:25 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I know when I was there people said there was a layer of sludge on the
bottom of the bay from all the people who flush oil down the toilet
and from the street runoff of several major cities that use the bay
for a sewer.

Who the hell would flush oil down the toilet?


People too lazy to take it to a recycle place?



Some of the sludge also comes from freighters on their way to
Baltimore...there have been incidents of their crews flushing ballast in
the bilges.

Vic Smith August 4th 09 09:02 PM

Good Chesapeake Bay news...
 
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:45:31 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:21:25 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I know when I was there people said there was a layer of sludge on the
bottom of the bay from all the people who flush oil down the toilet
and from the street runoff of several major cities that use the bay
for a sewer.


Who the hell would flush oil down the toilet?


People too lazy to take it to a recycle place?


Before recycling we used to just funnel the old stuff back into the
jugs, or a plastic gallon milk bottles and toss it in the trash for
delivery to the landfill.
Even now you could do that if you were too lazy to do right.
Be pretty stupid and take more work to dump it in the toilet.
You made that up. (-:

--Vic


NotNow[_3_] August 4th 09 09:02 PM

Good Chesapeake Bay news...
 
Little John wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:05:48 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:32:59 -0400, Little John
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:39:57 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw
That *is* some good news. One little light in a sea of gloom. Now if
they'd stop the menhaden fishing, the sewage dumping up north, and
kill the mute swans, they'd be on the right path.

How is the "oil" and fecal coliform problem going?
I know when I was there people said there was a layer of sludge on the
bottom of the bay from all the people who flush oil down the toilet
and from the street runoff of several major cities that use the bay
for a sewer.
Coilforms are basically just the chicken farms but some also comes
from bad sewer plants and septic tanks. The show PBS ran on the
problems in the bay showed the chicken farmers are still dumping raw
chicken **** in the creeks that feed the bay. It is hard to argue with
aerial photos of it happening.

I still would not eat an oyster from that bay, and certainly not
without cooking it.


This is how bad things were six years ago. They've gotten worse.

http://www.cbf.org/Document.Doc?id=321
--

John H


That's odd. If people listened to Harry, they'd think the bay was the
best place in the world to boat, fish, and live.....

Little John[_3_] August 4th 09 09:09 PM

Good Chesapeake Bay news...
 
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:02:31 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Little John wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:05:48 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:32:59 -0400, Little John
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:39:57 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/sc...yster.html?hpw
That *is* some good news. One little light in a sea of gloom. Now if
they'd stop the menhaden fishing, the sewage dumping up north, and
kill the mute swans, they'd be on the right path.
How is the "oil" and fecal coliform problem going?
I know when I was there people said there was a layer of sludge on the
bottom of the bay from all the people who flush oil down the toilet
and from the street runoff of several major cities that use the bay
for a sewer.
Coilforms are basically just the chicken farms but some also comes
from bad sewer plants and septic tanks. The show PBS ran on the
problems in the bay showed the chicken farmers are still dumping raw
chicken **** in the creeks that feed the bay. It is hard to argue with
aerial photos of it happening.

I still would not eat an oyster from that bay, and certainly not
without cooking it.


This is how bad things were six years ago. They've gotten worse.

http://www.cbf.org/Document.Doc?id=321
--

John H


That's odd. If people listened to Harry, they'd think the bay was the
best place in the world to boat, fish, and live.....


It's still got some nice boating and fishing, but the fishing isn't as
good as it was some years back. The crab, oyster, and fish population
is greatly reduced, but the size of the 'dead zone' hasn't.

I don't recall Harry saying much about how nice the Chesapeake Bay is.
Usually he's just putting down someone else's location, like Lake
Lanier or Puget Sound, neither of which he's boated in.
--

John H


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