On Aug 2, 8:53*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:36:01 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:07:10 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

Here in SWFL I can get non-ethanol gas delivered to the house by one
of the local fuel dealers, 50 gallon minimum.

I've heard that you can get it up here too, but so far, no distributor
wil admit to selling it.

It's perfectly legal for off road (marine) usage, at least it is here.

Back when I had the F-250, I bought into a farmer's fuel co-op - I
qualified because "technically" we own a "farm" - even though the
fields are leased to a local farmer.

That same distributor is supposed to sell ethanol free gas, but he
says no - he can't get it, so he can't sell it.

Why, I don't know.

I am somewhat skeptical of this whole issue because it seems to be the
answer to all unknown motor problems. You'd think that if this was a
serious problem for boats that it might be a problem for cars as
well. Yet, nobody seems to have reported bad gas for their cars from
this station.
Today, I finally decided that boat motor mechanics are simply
incompetent and I had better figure it out for myself. First, I
noticed that the mechanics who had supposedly rebuilt my carbs and
drained all the bad fuel from my boat had NOT replaced the water
seperator, WTF? I took it off and could not find much sign of water
in it but i may not have known how to look.
Next, I took off the fuel filter on the engine and found it to have a
lot of red sediment in it, too fine to be rust but some was on the
output side too, hmmmmmmm. The mechanics did not bother to do this?
WTF?
Decided to drain the carb float bowls, no sign of water there either.
Conclusions will have to wait till tomorrow.

On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:08:33 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I am somewhat skeptical of this whole issue because it seems to be the
answer to all unknown motor problems. You'd think that if this was a
serious problem for boats that it might be a problem for cars as
well. Yet, nobody seems to have reported bad gas for their cars from
this station.

The problem is storage - you go through more gas by volume over time
with a car than you do with a boat. I run through about 75 gallons a
month over the summer with the Ranger for example, but I use at least
double that in my truck. You also add it in smaller volume in
cars/trucks than you do with a boat.

On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:08:33 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Decided to drain the carb float bowls, no sign of water there either.
Conclusions will have to wait till tomorrow.

The last time I had fuel problems with my Honda 4 stroke I sprayed a
lot of GumOut (carb cleaner) into the float bowl drain and let it sit
over night. It's been running fine ever since.