On 7/23/09 5:22 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 23, 5:07 pm, H the wrote:
On 7/23/09 4:51 PM, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:21:09 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

We need to first cut the incomes of physicians. They should be paid no
more than college professor.... they have the same length of training.

Really. Interesting.

You could make an argument for PhD level, but the only reason you get
a PhD is for research - not instruction.

More ignorant bull**** from SW Tom.

Most university employment ads I have seen for tenure track positions at
the assistant or associate professor level require a doctorate, and
those are for teaching positions. Obviously such jobs also may have a
research component.

Your "this is the way it is because I say so" pronouncements here are
consistently close to or even over the edge, and are reflective of a
closed mind.

My wife will be getting her doctorate next year, as soon as her
dissertation is completed and defended.

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A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

I taught college Physics for two semesters. Easiest job I ever had
and I had 15 "contact" hours whereas the normal load for a prof is
12. Not only was I finishing up my research too, I was writing two
papers and job hunting and caving every weekend and still had a lot of
free time.
I dunno about doctors in training, I have heard it is grueling.


Nice, but has nothing to do with what I posted.
I taught freshman English for two semesters, and I didn't even have a
master's degree at the time. But...I was not interested in full-time
permament employment, or the tenure track or research. I was interested
in earning some bucks while getting my master's.

But that's not what i was talking about, either.

BTW, I do have an idea for an invention...but all I have is the idea.
What do you know about...plastics?

I'm not kidding, either. :)



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A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

On Jul 23, 5:26*pm, H the K wrote:
On 7/23/09 5:22 PM, Frogwatch wrote:



On Jul 23, 5:07 pm, H the *wrote:
On 7/23/09 4:51 PM, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:21:09 -0400, Gene Kearns
* *wrote:

We need to first cut the incomes of physicians. They should be paid no
more than college professor.... they have the same length of training.

Really. Interesting.

You could make an argument for PhD level, but the only reason you get
a PhD is for research - not instruction.

More ignorant bull**** from SW Tom.

Most university employment ads I have seen for tenure track positions at
the assistant or associate professor level require a doctorate, and
those are for teaching positions. Obviously such jobs also may have a
research component.

Your "this is the way it is because I say so" pronouncements here are
consistently close to or even over the edge, and are reflective of a
closed mind.

My wife will be getting her doctorate next year, as soon as her
dissertation is completed and defended.

--
A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

I taught college Physics for two semesters. *Easiest job I ever had
and I had 15 "contact" hours whereas the normal load for a prof is
12. *Not only was I finishing up my research too, I was writing two
papers and job hunting and caving every weekend and still had a lot of
free time.
I dunno about doctors in training, I have heard it is grueling.

Nice, but has nothing to do with what I posted.
I taught freshman English for two semesters, and I didn't even have a
master's degree at the time. But...I was not interested in full-time
permament employment, or the tenure track or research. I was interested
in earning some bucks while getting my master's.

But that's not what i was talking about, either.

BTW, I do have an idea for an invention...but all I have is the idea.
What do you know about...plastics?

I'm not kidding, either. :)

--
A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

Write it down and sign and date it in the presence of a witness who
also signs it as understanding the idea.

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:22:47 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

More ignorant bull**** from SW Tom.

Right - more ignorant bull**** from the biggest bull****ter in the
newsgroup.

I know because I've been there - twice with two kids and my own
education.

I'll say it again - what you know about anything can be written on the
tip of a sewing needle with a broad tip Sharpie - or what you can
Google up.

And I thought your wife was already a Dr. Dr.

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:26:28 -0400, H the K
wrote:

BTW, I do have an idea for an invention...but all I have is the idea.
What do you know about...plastics?

They already invented the butt plug and vibrator.

Try again.

On 7/23/09 5:38 PM, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:22:47 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

More ignorant bull**** from SW Tom.

Right - more ignorant bull**** from the biggest bull****ter in the
newsgroup.

I know because I've been there - twice with two kids and my own
education.

I'll say it again - what you know about anything can be written on the
tip of a sewing needle with a broad tip Sharpie - or what you can
Google up.

And I thought your wife was already a Dr. Dr.


You know? What you know is not "universally accepted knowledge."
In the last two months, you've made a number of factual announcements
here that are absolute provable bull****. Remember your claims about
Husqvarna tractors? Bull****. You claims about the fuel burns on your
etec? Bull****.





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A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

On 7/23/09 5:39 PM, Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:26:28 -0400, H the
wrote:

BTW, I do have an idea for an invention...but all I have is the idea.
What do you know about...plastics?

They already invented the butt plug and vibrator.

Try again.

I wasn't talking about an idea that would substitute for the fact that
Viagra no longer works for you.


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A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

In article ,
says...
Most college professors I know and work with didn't spend 10 to 12
years of schooling before residency to obtain positions as professors.
You could make an argument for PhD level, but the only reason you get
a PhD is for research - not instruction.



According to the accrediting bodies, you always have to be "one ahead"
of your students. Anybody expecting to teach to students at a Masters
level must have a Doctorate. Most Universities want (FT) individuals
qualified to teach to the Graduate Level. They can always find part
timers... usually new graduates to teach the lower classes....

Everybody I teach with had at least a bachelors and 20 years in the
field before they were hired. Most were retired military.

All of us have signed our name in log books that can be used as legal
documents against us in a court of law. Even a physician doesn't sign a
paper that attests to a 100% error free job every time. In fact, they
have you sign reams of paper attesting to the fact that they are
blameless... whatever....

Plus, a physician makes a mistake? One fatality. One of us or our
students? Tens... hundreds... with the potential for thousands of
fatalities.

I'm tired of hearing whiny physicians that have never had a *real* job,
any more than a PhD in Philosophy has, blubber about being sued....
they painted a target on their OWN back....

Again, consider when this "medical costs are out of hand" first came to
light....

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the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do.
So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor.
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"H the K" wrote in message
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On 7/23/09 4:51 PM, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:21:09 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

We need to first cut the incomes of physicians. They should be paid no
more than college professor.... they have the same length of training.

Really. Interesting.



You could make an argument for PhD level, but the only reason you get
a PhD is for research - not instruction.

More ignorant bull**** from SW Tom.

Most university employment ads I have seen for tenure track positions at
the assistant or associate professor level require a doctorate, and those
are for teaching positions. Obviously such jobs also may have a research
component.

Your "this is the way it is because I say so" pronouncements here are
consistently close to or even over the edge, and are reflective of a
closed mind.

My wife will be getting her doctorate next year, as soon as her
dissertation is completed and defended.




Will she then be a Dr. Dr. Dr.?
Fast track and you can get a PhD in 7 years. Nuclear Chemistry. Top
school. Roommate before marriage was exactly that.

Frogwatch wrote:
With all the consideration of the govt being the party that sets
medical prices at Canadian levels, who will pay for the R&D? Most R&D
for med stuff is done in the USA because we pay for it and essentially
the USA subsidizes Canadian medicine because they do NOT pay for the
R&D, US citizens do. The govt will not pay for it and are not even
qualified to do so. Most advances in medicine and drugs over the last
50 years would never have been funded by the govt. I know from
personal experience that govt experts rarely know enough about what
really works.
Most medical R&D is funded by pvt companies who know they will make
money if the process works. If they cannot make a profit, no more
R&D, no advances in treatments, no new drugs.

I worked for a drug company and have seen the cost difference between
what the drug can be sold for in the US and in Canada. Of course Cost
differentiation of a product is a basic of micro economics.

There are two facts that drive up the cost of health care. One is the
cost of the staff to cover the required record keeping and the staff to
keep up to date on the regulations. The drug drug companies I have
worked for have had 30 to 40% of their staff in regulatory and QA/QC.
Regulatory working to understand and comply to the regulations QA/QC
enforcing the regulations.

The second cost of drug comes from the 100% safe mind set of the people
in the US. Nothing is 100% safe, but the law suits and the liabilities
this mindset produces requires a staff of lawyers working for the drug
company and excessive cost for liability insurance for the drug
manufacturer, the hospital, the doctor, and the health care worker.

As with nuclear energy they are killing the industry with government
regulations.

H the K wrote:
On 7/23/09 4:51 PM, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:21:09 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

We need to first cut the incomes of physicians. They should be paid no
more than college professor.... they have the same length of training.

Really. Interesting.



You could make an argument for PhD level, but the only reason you get
a PhD is for research - not instruction.

More ignorant bull**** from SW Tom.

Most university employment ads I have seen for tenure track positions at
the assistant or associate professor level require a doctorate, and
those are for teaching positions. Obviously such jobs also may have a
research component.

Your "this is the way it is because I say so" pronouncements here are
consistently close to or even over the edge, and are reflective of a
closed mind.

My wife will be getting her doctorate next year, as soon as her
dissertation is completed and defended.



Is that when you will take her name?