On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:25:22 -0400, H the K
wrote:

shrounds banging against masts.

They only part of the rigging that can bang are halyards. A neighbors
Rebel [first of the fiberglass sailboats] banged away for years and
years, but nobody cared.

Casady

Guru of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:31:27 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Jim wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
For O/B sailboats.
A 50-80 Amp alternator on a 9-15 hp OB.

Sailors often carry a Honda EU1000-2000 to provide juice at anchor.
Though not real loud, they can be an irritation to nearby boats,
especially big boats using big watercooled internal gensets that don't
make much outside noise. Some of those owners think the Honda's
should be outlawed at anchorages.
What's with Honda's being the bad guy? Why mention Honda? These
generators are made by a variety of manufacturers.

I would say Honda generators aren't the problem, it's the construction
site type generators that are the problem. You know the ones.

I use an inverter, four golf cart batteries for the house bank, and have
a large alternator on the main engine. I'm good for 4 days on the hook,
no charging, and the ice cream is hard enough to bend a spoon. I use
electricity exactly the same at anchor that I use it at the dock.

Occasionally, with an hour or two of charging, I have a full tank of hot
water for showers, and topped off batteries.

A separate generator is not necessary as far as I can see. Not even
desirable.

Big, water cooled internal generators that run all day and night are very
annoying to me. Shut the damn thing off and shut off some lights.

Everyone who thinks they have to run their generator to make coffee is
the problem.
What do you do when it's 105 degrees at midnight?
Sweat.

Not me.

A/C all the way.

And I don't care if folks don't like the noise.

Move your boat. :)

Thanks man... At the races the things go off at 10:30 pm not to be
started again till 6:30 am. We were in a board members camper last time
and he let it run till 10:45 and another board member was at the door
Of course it's easier there as the gates usually close and most folks
will not be moving around at night as you might in a marina...

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:06:29 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:48:52 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I wonder how the Texans and other gulf cruisers handle the heat when
they cruise if they don't have A/C.
You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.

I took that to heart the first time you told me.
And I intend to have it, if only on a limited scale for sleeping.
But despite that being a general rule, some acclimate better than
others.
After all, there were people living there before A/C.
My dad's family lived there for 4 years in the '20's.
Mostly Daytona and the Keys. Of course Daytona is on the Atlantic.
But my uncle and his wife lived for many years in a duplex on a canal
in Cape Coral. No A/C, just fans.
Not my cuppa, but some do it just fine.

--Vic


The rest just died !

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:17:42 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.



Whata wus.

Perhaps. We find that the biggest issue this time of year is the
mosquitos. The area where we live sprays and that keeps them under
control. Elsewhere however when you try to open things up at night
to ventilate, the critters just about carry you away. A/C solves all
that.

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:45:02 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:17:42 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.



Whata wus.

Perhaps. We find that the biggest issue this time of year is the
mosquitos. The area where we live sprays and that keeps them under
control. Elsewhere however when you try to open things up at night
to ventilate, the critters just about carry you away. A/C solves all
that.

In Maine last week the mosquitos were atrocious. Lots of rain hasn't
helped the problem. When we opened the outer door, there'd be a thick
swarm around the screen door. Opening that, very quickly, would always
let about a dozen into the trailer.

Pain in the butt. I probably went through a pint of Deet.
--

John H

On Jul 15, 9:05*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:33:34 -0400, Just John Again



wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:45:02 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:17:42 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.

Whata wus.

Perhaps. * We find that the biggest issue this time of year is the
mosquitos. * The area where we live sprays and that keeps them *under
control. * Elsewhere however when you try to open things up at night
to ventilate, the critters just about carry you away. *A/C solves all
that.

In Maine last week the mosquitos were atrocious. Lots of rain hasn't
helped the problem. When we opened the outer door, there'd be a thick
swarm around the screen door. Opening that, very quickly, would always
let about a dozen into the trailer.

Pain in the butt. I probably went through a pint of Deet.

The absolute worst mosquitoes I ever saw were down the road from Frog
Man's place on Cape San Blas. We stayed at some "salt factory" place
that was real nice, until the mosquitoes came out. Then you couldn't
open the door. They came down on you by the thousands in seconds.

At Cape San Blas, you have to see the forecast before you go. If the
breeze is offa the land, its gonna be bad with bugs. A sea breeze
means very few bugs. Generally it isnt the skeeters that kill you,
its the no-seeums and yellow flies. Scallops this year at Cape San
Blas are s'posed to be better than other places cuz the bay there has
less fresh water in it than other places due to lots of rain.
This time of year, there is no way I'd spend time at the dock on the
oaot, You gotta be out where you can catch a breeze. Something I
really want to try if I ever get the time will be to rig up a tall
chimney-like fabric tube from the front hatchway on the sailboat. The
bottom end of the fabric tube would be white with the top end held up
by a halyard would be black. This ought generate good airflow due to
heating of the air at the black end of the tube. When not needed,
just roll it up.

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:05:31 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:33:34 -0400, Just John Again
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:45:02 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:17:42 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.



Whata wus.

Perhaps. We find that the biggest issue this time of year is the
mosquitos. The area where we live sprays and that keeps them under
control. Elsewhere however when you try to open things up at night
to ventilate, the critters just about carry you away. A/C solves all
that.

In Maine last week the mosquitos were atrocious. Lots of rain hasn't
helped the problem. When we opened the outer door, there'd be a thick
swarm around the screen door. Opening that, very quickly, would always
let about a dozen into the trailer.

Pain in the butt. I probably went through a pint of Deet.

The absolute worst mosquitoes I ever saw were down the road from Frog
Man's place on Cape San Blas. We stayed at some "salt factory" place
that was real nice, until the mosquitoes came out. Then you couldn't
open the door. They came down on you by the thousands in seconds.

The worst mosquito attack I ever came under was in LA when I worked
for Texaco. We had a production platform in the swamps outside of
Venice along the oil line supply canals. One day I had to visit with
a tech to make sure everything was ok, routine maintenance, etc. Crew
boat dropped us off around noon and said he'd be back around 1800 - a
couple of hours before dusk.

We did our thing, caught a few redfish waiting for the crew boat to
return - no crew boat. It's getting dark - we've got no place to hide
and the assault began. The crew boat showed up two hours late and we
were close to being eaten alive. :)

Still though, mosquitos ain't nuttin next to the Spring hatch of black
flies in Maine. Nothing like getting hit by a few of those.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:01:27 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

That Grady is more boat than I'll have, and I"ll have to tackle A/C
differently.

Not me. My physiological heat control circled the bowl in SEA and only
got worse when I lived down South for a few years in MS and LA. I hate
the cold and I hate the heat.

I'm only comfortable between the temperatures of 68 and 80 degrees
which means I probably should move to Hawaii. :)

That's how my wife is, and she bitches when it gets out of that range.
Funny thing is she's slim, and when I slim up heat hardly bothers me
at all.
I think a lot of it is psychological, maybe based on experience.
Not to say your thermostat can't get messed up.
I know I can control a lot of the "discomfort" by setting my state of
mind, and using a few tricks.
Maybe because I spent years in a 120 degree boiler room and then spent
some years almost as hot as a heat treater, then some years working
outside in record cold winters.
Gives your mind something to work with when the temps are a bit hot or
cold. Then your body catches up.
A cool drink or hot toddy does help. Those are tricks.
Still haven't found a good trick to stop her bitching though.

--Vic

Humidity will make that heat worse. Coming back from June Lake today, and
as we come down on 120 from Yosemite the temp is reading 102. Got dinner
and fuel in Oakdale. 106 at 5pm. Was hot, but not as bad as when I lived
in Dayton, OH or Biloxi, MS. June lake was about 70, but windy until
yesterday. We canoed June Lake yesterday. One trout caught and released.
Stopped at Saddlebag Lake and fished this morning. Is just outside the
Eastern entrance to Yosemite. Caught and released one trout and had a drive
by. Hit the bait and snagged the line in the rocks. Got snag loose, but no
fish. Is at tree line, and still snow at lake level. a month ago when we
came through Yosemite there was 3' of snow at Tuolumne Meadows.

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:05:31 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:33:34 -0400, Just John Again
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:45:02 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:17:42 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.



Whata wus.

Perhaps. We find that the biggest issue this time of year is the
mosquitos. The area where we live sprays and that keeps them under
control. Elsewhere however when you try to open things up at night
to ventilate, the critters just about carry you away. A/C solves all
that.

In Maine last week the mosquitos were atrocious. Lots of rain hasn't
helped the problem. When we opened the outer door, there'd be a thick
swarm around the screen door. Opening that, very quickly, would always
let about a dozen into the trailer.

Pain in the butt. I probably went through a pint of Deet.

The absolute worst mosquitoes I ever saw were down the road from Frog
Man's place on Cape San Blas. We stayed at some "salt factory" place
that was real nice, until the mosquitoes came out. Then you couldn't
open the door. They came down on you by the thousands in seconds.

That's the way Maine was a couple weeks ago. I'll have to give Deet a
pat on the back though. The stuff does a good job.
--

John H

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:50:47 -0400, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:05:31 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:33:34 -0400, Just John Again
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:45:02 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:17:42 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.



Whata wus.

Perhaps. We find that the biggest issue this time of year is the
mosquitos. The area where we live sprays and that keeps them under
control. Elsewhere however when you try to open things up at night
to ventilate, the critters just about carry you away. A/C solves all
that.

In Maine last week the mosquitos were atrocious. Lots of rain hasn't
helped the problem. When we opened the outer door, there'd be a thick
swarm around the screen door. Opening that, very quickly, would always
let about a dozen into the trailer.

Pain in the butt. I probably went through a pint of Deet.

The absolute worst mosquitoes I ever saw were down the road from Frog
Man's place on Cape San Blas. We stayed at some "salt factory" place
that was real nice, until the mosquitoes came out. Then you couldn't
open the door. They came down on you by the thousands in seconds.

The worst mosquito attack I ever came under was in LA when I worked
for Texaco. We had a production platform in the swamps outside of
Venice along the oil line supply canals. One day I had to visit with
a tech to make sure everything was ok, routine maintenance, etc. Crew
boat dropped us off around noon and said he'd be back around 1800 - a
couple of hours before dusk.

We did our thing, caught a few redfish waiting for the crew boat to
return - no crew boat. It's getting dark - we've got no place to hide
and the assault began. The crew boat showed up two hours late and we
were close to being eaten alive. :)

Still though, mosquitos ain't nuttin next to the Spring hatch of black
flies in Maine. Nothing like getting hit by a few of those.

There will be days on the Chesapeake when it's very hot, humid and
still, and the black flies decide to come out and attack. For some
reason they seem attracted to white boats. They'll stick around until
they're all killed even out on the water.
--

John H