On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:01:27 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

That Grady is more boat than I'll have, and I"ll have to tackle A/C
differently.

Not me. My physiological heat control circled the bowl in SEA and only
got worse when I lived down South for a few years in MS and LA. I hate
the cold and I hate the heat.

I'm only comfortable between the temperatures of 68 and 80 degrees
which means I probably should move to Hawaii. :)

That's how my wife is, and she bitches when it gets out of that range.
Funny thing is she's slim, and when I slim up heat hardly bothers me
at all.
I think a lot of it is psychological, maybe based on experience.
Not to say your thermostat can't get messed up.
I know I can control a lot of the "discomfort" by setting my state of
mind, and using a few tricks.
Maybe because I spent years in a 120 degree boiler room and then spent
some years almost as hot as a heat treater, then some years working
outside in record cold winters.
Gives your mind something to work with when the temps are a bit hot or
cold. Then your body catches up.
A cool drink or hot toddy does help. Those are tricks.
Still haven't found a good trick to stop her bitching though.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:01:27 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

That Grady is more boat than I'll have, and I"ll have to tackle A/C
differently.

Not me. My physiological heat control circled the bowl in SEA and only
got worse when I lived down South for a few years in MS and LA. I hate
the cold and I hate the heat.

I'm only comfortable between the temperatures of 68 and 80 degrees
which means I probably should move to Hawaii. :)

That's how my wife is, and she bitches when it gets out of that range.
Funny thing is she's slim, and when I slim up heat hardly bothers me
at all.
I think a lot of it is psychological, maybe based on experience.
Not to say your thermostat can't get messed up.
I know I can control a lot of the "discomfort" by setting my state of
mind, and using a few tricks.
Maybe because I spent years in a 120 degree boiler room and then spent
some years almost as hot as a heat treater, then some years working
outside in record cold winters.
Gives your mind something to work with when the temps are a bit hot or
cold. Then your body catches up.
A cool drink or hot toddy does help. Those are tricks.
Still haven't found a good trick to stop her bitching though.

--Vic

Humidity will make that heat worse. Coming back from June Lake today, and
as we come down on 120 from Yosemite the temp is reading 102. Got dinner
and fuel in Oakdale. 106 at 5pm. Was hot, but not as bad as when I lived
in Dayton, OH or Biloxi, MS. June lake was about 70, but windy until
yesterday. We canoed June Lake yesterday. One trout caught and released.
Stopped at Saddlebag Lake and fished this morning. Is just outside the
Eastern entrance to Yosemite. Caught and released one trout and had a drive
by. Hit the bait and snagged the line in the rocks. Got snag loose, but no
fish. Is at tree line, and still snow at lake level. a month ago when we
came through Yosemite there was 3' of snow at Tuolumne Meadows.

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:48:52 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I wonder how the Texans and other gulf cruisers handle the heat when
they cruise if they don't have A/C.

You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:48:52 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I wonder how the Texans and other gulf cruisers handle the heat when
they cruise if they don't have A/C.

You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.



Whata wus.

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:17:42 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.



Whata wus.

Perhaps. We find that the biggest issue this time of year is the
mosquitos. The area where we live sprays and that keeps them under
control. Elsewhere however when you try to open things up at night
to ventilate, the critters just about carry you away. A/C solves all
that.

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:06:29 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:48:52 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I wonder how the Texans and other gulf cruisers handle the heat when
they cruise if they don't have A/C.

You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.

I took that to heart the first time you told me.
And I intend to have it, if only on a limited scale for sleeping.
But despite that being a general rule, some acclimate better than
others.
After all, there were people living there before A/C.
My dad's family lived there for 4 years in the '20's.
Mostly Daytona and the Keys. Of course Daytona is on the Atlantic.
But my uncle and his wife lived for many years in a duplex on a canal
in Cape Coral. No A/C, just fans.
Not my cuppa, but some do it just fine.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:06:29 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:48:52 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I wonder how the Texans and other gulf cruisers handle the heat when
they cruise if they don't have A/C.

You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.

I took that to heart the first time you told me.
And I intend to have it, if only on a limited scale for sleeping.
But despite that being a general rule, some acclimate better than
others.
After all, there were people living there before A/C.
My dad's family lived there for 4 years in the '20's.
Mostly Daytona and the Keys. Of course Daytona is on the Atlantic.
But my uncle and his wife lived for many years in a duplex on a canal
in Cape Coral. No A/C, just fans.
Not my cuppa, but some do it just fine.

--Vic



I was in Yuma Arizona in the middle of the summer way back when for a week.
It topped out at 123 and was well over 110 the rest of the days. One day, we
decided to walk into town. My tennis shoes blistered. We were on the
Colorado most of the time, so we could always get out of the water if we ran
out of beer, worst case of course. :-)


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:06:29 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:48:52 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I wonder how the Texans and other gulf cruisers handle the heat when
they cruise if they don't have A/C.
You can not cruise (or live in) the gulf states in the summer time
without A/C.

I took that to heart the first time you told me.
And I intend to have it, if only on a limited scale for sleeping.
But despite that being a general rule, some acclimate better than
others.
After all, there were people living there before A/C.
My dad's family lived there for 4 years in the '20's.
Mostly Daytona and the Keys. Of course Daytona is on the Atlantic.
But my uncle and his wife lived for many years in a duplex on a canal
in Cape Coral. No A/C, just fans.
Not my cuppa, but some do it just fine.

--Vic


The rest just died !

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:57:27 -0700, Jim wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
For O/B sailboats.
A 50-80 Amp alternator on a 9-15 hp OB.

Sailors often carry a Honda EU1000-2000 to provide juice at anchor.
Though not real loud, they can be an irritation to nearby boats,
especially big boats using big watercooled internal gensets that don't
make much outside noise. Some of those owners think the Honda's
should be outlawed at anchorages.

What's with Honda's being the bad guy? Why mention Honda? These
generators are made by a variety of manufacturers.

I would say Honda generators aren't the problem, it's the construction
site type generators that are the problem. You know the ones.

I use an inverter, four golf cart batteries for the house bank, and have
a large alternator on the main engine. I'm good for 4 days on the hook,
no charging, and the ice cream is hard enough to bend a spoon. I use
electricity exactly the same at anchor that I use it at the dock.

Occasionally, with an hour or two of charging, I have a full tank of hot
water for showers, and topped off batteries.

A separate generator is not necessary as far as I can see. Not even
desirable.

Big, water cooled internal generators that run all day and night are
very annoying to me. Shut the damn thing off and shut off some lights.

Everyone who thinks they have to run their generator to make coffee is
the problem.

Well I don't drink coffee so there wouldn't be a coffee maker.

But dude - gotta have air conditioning. :)

Don't leave home without it.

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:57:27 -0700, Jim wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
For O/B sailboats.
A 50-80 Amp alternator on a 9-15 hp OB.

Sailors often carry a Honda EU1000-2000 to provide juice at anchor.
Though not real loud, they can be an irritation to nearby boats,
especially big boats using big watercooled internal gensets that don't
make much outside noise. Some of those owners think the Honda's
should be outlawed at anchorages.

What's with Honda's being the bad guy? Why mention Honda? These
generators are made by a variety of manufacturers.

I would say Honda generators aren't the problem, it's the construction
site type generators that are the problem. You know the ones.

I use an inverter, four golf cart batteries for the house bank, and have
a large alternator on the main engine. I'm good for 4 days on the hook,
no charging, and the ice cream is hard enough to bend a spoon. I use
electricity exactly the same at anchor that I use it at the dock.

Occasionally, with an hour or two of charging, I have a full tank of hot
water for showers, and topped off batteries.

A separate generator is not necessary as far as I can see. Not even
desirable.

Big, water cooled internal generators that run all day and night are
very annoying to me. Shut the damn thing off and shut off some lights.

Everyone who thinks they have to run their generator to make coffee is
the problem.

Well I don't drink coffee so there wouldn't be a coffee maker.

But dude - gotta have air conditioning. :)

Don't leave home without it.

Wear shorts and scandals. :}