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9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE

J i m wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

Investing in America, or funding 9000 earmarks in a foolish spending
spree? Obama and company are not investing in America!

Exactly right and the public is waking up to this.

I don't blame Obama completely. I primarily blame the bunch of
crooked jerks in Congress.
Obama's guilt is not reading them the riot act and insuring good use
and application of stimulus spending. Instead, he gave them a new,
flashy credit card with an unlimited credit line.

Eisboch

He promised us he wouldn't do that.

Well, as we have seen so far, that really means nothing at all. He said
whatever came to mind at the time but we all knew what he was before he
got elected. Problem is, the MSM never asked, and still hasn't asked a
tough question for fear of being thrown "off of the plane". This tactic
of never facing a real question or interview started long ago with the
dems, particularly the Clinton gang. MSM doesn't care as long as they
get to go to the party...

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE

JustWait wrote:
J i m wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

Investing in America, or funding 9000 earmarks in a foolish spending
spree? Obama and company are not investing in America!

Exactly right and the public is waking up to this.

I don't blame Obama completely. I primarily blame the bunch of
crooked jerks in Congress.
Obama's guilt is not reading them the riot act and insuring good use
and application of stimulus spending. Instead, he gave them a new,
flashy credit card with an unlimited credit line.

Eisboch

He promised us he wouldn't do that.

Well, as we have seen so far, that really means nothing at all. He said
whatever came to mind at the time but we all knew what he was before he
got elected. Problem is, the MSM never asked, and still hasn't asked a
tough question for fear of being thrown "off of the plane". This tactic
of never facing a real question or interview started long ago with the
dems, particularly the Clinton gang. MSM doesn't care as long as they
get to go to the party...

Ahhh...justhate, unemployable, brain-damaged, and regurgitating
right-wing babble. Nothing's changed.

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE

On Jul 2, 10:49*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:42*pm, HK wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:18 pm, HK wrote:
Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:04 pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with
his stimulus and all. *Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be
unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. *You
seen any stimulus, SUCKER.
The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike
for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are
laying em off as fast as they can. *It's gonna be 15% by the end of
the year and 20% by this time next year. *Is Bozoma gonna pay your
mortgage? *Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send
you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while
he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets.
Good Job Dems.
Gone 'round the bend, eh? *I hope you enjoy eating all this bull****
when it doesn't come true.
Rising unemployment is inevitable. *But it's the globalist Wall
Streeters to blame, not Obama. *Clinton and Bush II are the major
culprits.
From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt,
inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated
Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years.
That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down,
but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace.
Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale
exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that
period. *Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false
cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available.
Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid
illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your
grass. *That was the attitude I saw.
That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly
during Clinton and Bush II.
The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away.
What to do?
That's for Obama to figure out.
He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities.
The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi
calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with
money and tariffs. *Probably need a combination of both.
Wealth doesn't trickle down. *It works it's way up through osmosis
from those producing the goods we use.
That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the
service end throughout my life.
But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel.
So what I say don't really matter except to me.
--Vic
Completely agree. *That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to
do something about it is just plain dishonest.
I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. *Our society and the middle
class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take
advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and
labor rates the lowest.
Scummy business that's going to ruin this country.
Scummy business already has ruined this country.
The business called "unions".
What's funny is that you really don't get it. It's the business
practices since the Reagan mis-Administration that have done us in, the
unbridled greed of corporations and financial services companies that
has looted this country of its assets. Blaming that on the small
percentage of the workforce that is unionized just demonstrates your
simplemindedness.

Whoa, who woulda thunk that dead Reagan coulda tricked us inta
spending that nearly 2 trillion under Obama. *I spose that just shows
how great Reagan was to force Obama to spend all that money and
accomplish nothing.

Obama didn't create a failed economy...he inherited it.

HK you just keep repeating that mantra while standing in the
unemployment line.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

His social worker wife supports him.

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE

"HK" wrote in message
...

Yes, Richard, I know. There are businesses that are operated
properly...for their owners.

Sorry, I don't trust "business" to "do the right thing" for anyone other
than its immediate owners and top executive employees. I might start
believing again if corporate salaries were limited to, oh, maybe 10 times
the salary of the average non-executive worker at each company.

Like it or not, business and capitalism is the lifeblood of our country and
economy.
The focus should be on eradicating special interests, crooked politicians,
greed in corporations and in the enforcement of laws.

The alternative is government controlled commerce and economy. Is that
what you advocate?

Eisboch

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE

On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:03:55 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Yes, Richard, I know. There are businesses that are operated
properly...for their owners.

Sorry, I don't trust "business" to "do the right thing" for anyone other
than its immediate owners and top executive employees. I might start
believing again if corporate salaries were limited to, oh, maybe 10 times
the salary of the average non-executive worker at each company.

Like it or not, business and capitalism is the lifeblood of our country and
economy.
The focus should be on eradicating special interests, crooked politicians,
greed in corporations and in the enforcement of laws.

The alternative is government controlled commerce and economy. Is that
what you advocate?

Eisboch

Was that a rhetorical question? Harry advocates whatever Obama wants.
And, if it doesn't quite work out well, then it's Bush's fault.

I think you're just trying to be humorous here.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE

On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:46:41 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:55:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:49:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jul 2, 10:42 pm, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:18 pm, HK wrote:
Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:04 pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps
wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that
bad
with
his stimulus and all. Dont feel so bad, now you can not only
be
unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush.
You
seen any stimulus, SUCKER.
The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on
strike
for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so
thy are
laying em off as fast as they can. It's gonna be 15% by the
end
of
the year and 20% by this time next year. Is Bozoma gonna pay
your
mortgage? Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he
might
send
you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a
beer while
he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets.
Good Job Dems.
Gone 'round the bend, eh? I hope you enjoy eating all this
bull****
when it doesn't come true.
Rising unemployment is inevitable. But it's the globalist Wall
Streeters to blame, not Obama. Clinton and Bush II are the
major
culprits.
From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt,
inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and
inflated
Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years.
That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going
down,
but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the
populace.
Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale
exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering
during
that
period. Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the
false
cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available.
Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly
paid
illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting
your
grass. That was the attitude I saw.
That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated
greatly
during Clinton and Bush II.
The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone
away.
What to do?
That's for Obama to figure out.
He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities.
The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi
poloi
calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods
with
money and tariffs. Probably need a combination of both.
Wealth doesn't trickle down. It works it's way up through
osmosis
from those producing the goods we use.
That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and
the
service end throughout my life.
But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker
barrel.
So what I say don't really matter except to me.
--Vic
Completely agree. That Obama is being blamed for it while trying
to
do something about it is just plain dishonest.
I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. Our society and the
middle
class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations
take
advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most
advantageous
and
labor rates the lowest.
Scummy business that's going to ruin this country.
Scummy business already has ruined this country.
The business called "unions".
What's funny is that you really don't get it. It's the business
practices since the Reagan mis-Administration that have done us in,
the
unbridled greed of corporations and financial services companies
that
has looted this country of its assets. Blaming that on the small
percentage of the workforce that is unionized just demonstrates
your
simplemindedness.

Whoa, who woulda thunk that dead Reagan coulda tricked us inta
spending that nearly 2 trillion under Obama. I spose that just shows
how great Reagan was to force Obama to spend all that money and
accomplish nothing.

Obama didn't create a failed economy...he inherited it.

HK you just keep repeating that mantra while standing in the
unemployment line.

While unemployment may not have reached its ultimate height, we will
recover. The question is whether we recover from this smart or
stupid.

If we don't reinvest in America and find a way to build and sell goods
and services to our own citizens, following generations will be
screwed.

Investing in America, or funding 9000 earmarks in a foolish spending
spree?
Obama and company are not investing in America!

How's that 3 trillion investment in Iraq going? Pretty good?

It sucks. We do not have 3 trillion to waste in Iraq or anywhere else.
Why is the current powers spending 4 trillion plus we do not have and can
not afford?

Your accounting for what? 10 years?

God forbid we use $ to provide health care to Americans.

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE

Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Yes, Richard, I know. There are businesses that are operated
properly...for their owners.

Sorry, I don't trust "business" to "do the right thing" for anyone
other than its immediate owners and top executive employees. I might
start believing again if corporate salaries were limited to, oh, maybe
10 times the salary of the average non-executive worker at each company.

Like it or not, business and capitalism is the lifeblood of our country
and economy.
The focus should be on eradicating special interests, crooked
politicians, greed in corporations and in the enforcement of laws.

The alternative is government controlled commerce and economy. Is
that what you advocate?

Eisboch

Richard, how do you propose eradicating the greed of corporations and
their senior employees? I know one way...mandatory nearly confiscatory
taxes on ALL income, whatever the source, above a certain amount, strict
limitations on bonuses, and no deferral of income.

That might lead to a corporate executive class as incompetent as the one
we have now, though, eh?

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Yes, Richard, I know. There are businesses that are operated
properly...for their owners.

Sorry, I don't trust "business" to "do the right thing" for anyone other
than its immediate owners and top executive employees. I might start
believing again if corporate salaries were limited to, oh, maybe 10
times the salary of the average non-executive worker at each company.

Like it or not, business and capitalism is the lifeblood of our country
and economy.
The focus should be on eradicating special interests, crooked
politicians, greed in corporations and in the enforcement of laws.

The alternative is government controlled commerce and economy. Is that
what you advocate?

Eisboch

Richard, how do you propose eradicating the greed of corporations and
their senior employees? I know one way...mandatory nearly confiscatory
taxes on ALL income, whatever the source, above a certain amount, strict
limitations on bonuses, and no deferral of income.

That might lead to a corporate executive class as incompetent as the one
we have now, though, eh?

That's classic Marxism, Harry. Your true colors are showing.

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE

Lu Powell wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

Yes, Richard, I know. There are businesses that are operated
properly...for their owners.

Sorry, I don't trust "business" to "do the right thing" for anyone
other than its immediate owners and top executive employees. I might
start believing again if corporate salaries were limited to, oh,
maybe 10 times the salary of the average non-executive worker at
each company.

Like it or not, business and capitalism is the lifeblood of our
country and economy.
The focus should be on eradicating special interests, crooked
politicians, greed in corporations and in the enforcement of laws.

The alternative is government controlled commerce and economy. Is
that what you advocate?

Eisboch

Richard, how do you propose eradicating the greed of corporations and
their senior employees? I know one way...mandatory nearly confiscatory
taxes on ALL income, whatever the source, above a certain amount,
strict limitations on bonuses, and no deferral of income.

That might lead to a corporate executive class as incompetent as the
one we have now, though, eh?

That's classic Marxism, Harry. Your true colors are showing.

Sorry, Lu, but it isn't. Obviously, you don't know anything about
Marxism, either. Or are you disputing that our corporate executive class
is incompetent?