9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE
 

On Jul 2, 10:04*pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with
his stimulus and all. *Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be
unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. *You
seen any stimulus, SUCKER.
The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike
for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are
laying em off as fast as they can. *It's gonna be 15% by the end of
the year and 20% by this time next year. *Is Bozoma gonna pay your
mortgage? *Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send
you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while
he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets.
Good Job Dems.
Gone 'round the bend, eh? *I hope you enjoy eating all this bull****
when it doesn't come true.
Rising unemployment is inevitable. *But it's the globalist Wall
Streeters to blame, not Obama. *Clinton and Bush II are the major
culprits.
From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt,
inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated
Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years.
That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down,
but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace.
Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale
exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that
period. *Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false
cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available.
Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid
illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your
grass. *That was the attitude I saw.
That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly
during Clinton and Bush II.
The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away.
What to do?
That's for Obama to figure out.
He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities.
The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi
calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with
money and tariffs. *Probably need a combination of both.
Wealth doesn't trickle down. *It works it's way up through osmosis
from those producing the goods we use.
That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the
service end throughout my life.
But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel.
So what I say don't really matter except to me.

--Vic

Completely agree. *That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to
do something about it is just plain dishonest.

I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. *Our society and the middle
class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take
advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and
labor rates the lowest.

Scummy business that's going to ruin this country.

Scummy business already has ruined this country.

The business called "unions".

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE
 

On Jul 2, 10:04*pm, Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 8:59*pm, nada wrote: Vic Smith wrote:

Remember when they were calling for increased savings and then

the Supplier Side Economists and Corporatist started manipulating Laws
to encourage borrowing with inadequate production to repay it?

ACORN is now demonstrating and filing lawsuits against banks to force
them to once again make the loans that got the banks into trouble in
the first place.

I didn't realize that ACORN was considered "corporatists".

This is the silliest bunch of rationalizations for economic
incompetence I have ever heard. When you threaten to punish those who
create jobs, guess what, no jobs. When you make sure we all know you
plan to tax businesses more, gues what, layoffs so they can pay their
anticipated taxes. You dont think cap and scam has anything to do
with the drop in stocks today?
Good Job Dems

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE
 

Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:04 pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with
his stimulus and all. Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be
unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. You
seen any stimulus, SUCKER.
The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike
for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are
laying em off as fast as they can. It's gonna be 15% by the end of
the year and 20% by this time next year. Is Bozoma gonna pay your
mortgage? Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send
you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while
he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets.
Good Job Dems.
Gone 'round the bend, eh? I hope you enjoy eating all this bull****
when it doesn't come true.
Rising unemployment is inevitable. But it's the globalist Wall
Streeters to blame, not Obama. Clinton and Bush II are the major
culprits.
From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt,
inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated
Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years.
That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down,
but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace.
Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale
exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that
period. Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false
cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available.
Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid
illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your
grass. That was the attitude I saw.
That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly
during Clinton and Bush II.
The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away.
What to do?
That's for Obama to figure out.
He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities.
The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi
calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with
money and tariffs. Probably need a combination of both.
Wealth doesn't trickle down. It works it's way up through osmosis
from those producing the goods we use.
That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the
service end throughout my life.
But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel.
So what I say don't really matter except to me.
--Vic
Completely agree. That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to
do something about it is just plain dishonest.
I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. Our society and the middle
class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take
advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and
labor rates the lowest.
Scummy business that's going to ruin this country.
Scummy business already has ruined this country.

The business called "unions".


What's funny is that you really don't get it. It's the business
practices since the Reagan mis-Administration that have done us in, the
unbridled greed of corporations and financial services companies that
has looted this country of its assets. Blaming that on the small
percentage of the workforce that is unionized just demonstrates your
simplemindedness.

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE
 

On Jul 2, 10:18*pm, HK wrote:
Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:04 pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with
his stimulus and all. *Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be
unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. *You
seen any stimulus, SUCKER.
The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike
for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are
laying em off as fast as they can. *It's gonna be 15% by the end of
the year and 20% by this time next year. *Is Bozoma gonna pay your
mortgage? *Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send
you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while
he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets.
Good Job Dems.
Gone 'round the bend, eh? *I hope you enjoy eating all this bull****
when it doesn't come true.
Rising unemployment is inevitable. *But it's the globalist Wall
Streeters to blame, not Obama. *Clinton and Bush II are the major
culprits.
From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt,
inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated
Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years.
That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down,
but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace.
Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale
exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that
period. *Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false
cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available.
Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid
illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your
grass. *That was the attitude I saw.
That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly
during Clinton and Bush II.
The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away..
What to do?
That's for Obama to figure out.
He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities.
The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi
calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with
money and tariffs. *Probably need a combination of both.
Wealth doesn't trickle down. *It works it's way up through osmosis
from those producing the goods we use.
That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the
service end throughout my life.
But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel.
So what I say don't really matter except to me.
--Vic
Completely agree. *That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to
do something about it is just plain dishonest.
I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. *Our society and the middle
class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take
advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and
labor rates the lowest.
Scummy business that's going to ruin this country.
Scummy business already has ruined this country.

The business called "unions".

What's funny is that you really don't get it. It's the business
practices since the Reagan mis-Administration that have done us in, the
unbridled greed of corporations and financial services companies that
has looted this country of its assets. Blaming that on the small
percentage of the workforce that is unionized just demonstrates your
simplemindedness.

Whoa, who woulda thunk that dead Reagan coulda tricked us inta
spending that nearly 2 trillion under Obama. I spose that just shows
how great Reagan was to force Obama to spend all that money and
accomplish nothing.

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE
 

Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:18 pm, HK wrote:
Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:04 pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with
his stimulus and all. Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be
unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. You
seen any stimulus, SUCKER.
The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike
for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are
laying em off as fast as they can. It's gonna be 15% by the end of
the year and 20% by this time next year. Is Bozoma gonna pay your
mortgage? Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send
you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while
he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets.
Good Job Dems.
Gone 'round the bend, eh? I hope you enjoy eating all this bull****
when it doesn't come true.
Rising unemployment is inevitable. But it's the globalist Wall
Streeters to blame, not Obama. Clinton and Bush II are the major
culprits.
From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt,
inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated
Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years.
That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down,
but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace.
Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale
exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that
period. Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false
cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available.
Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid
illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your
grass. That was the attitude I saw.
That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly
during Clinton and Bush II.
The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away.
What to do?
That's for Obama to figure out.
He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities.
The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi
calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with
money and tariffs. Probably need a combination of both.
Wealth doesn't trickle down. It works it's way up through osmosis
from those producing the goods we use.
That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the
service end throughout my life.
But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel.
So what I say don't really matter except to me.
--Vic
Completely agree. That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to
do something about it is just plain dishonest.
I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. Our society and the middle
class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take
advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and
labor rates the lowest.
Scummy business that's going to ruin this country.
Scummy business already has ruined this country.
The business called "unions".
What's funny is that you really don't get it. It's the business
practices since the Reagan mis-Administration that have done us in, the
unbridled greed of corporations and financial services companies that
has looted this country of its assets. Blaming that on the small
percentage of the workforce that is unionized just demonstrates your
simplemindedness.

Whoa, who woulda thunk that dead Reagan coulda tricked us inta
spending that nearly 2 trillion under Obama. I spose that just shows
how great Reagan was to force Obama to spend all that money and
accomplish nothing.


Obama didn't create a failed economy...he inherited it.

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE
 

On Jul 2, 10:42*pm, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:18 pm, HK wrote:
Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:04 pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with
his stimulus and all. *Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be
unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. *You
seen any stimulus, SUCKER.
The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike
for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are
laying em off as fast as they can. *It's gonna be 15% by the end of
the year and 20% by this time next year. *Is Bozoma gonna pay your
mortgage? *Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send
you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while
he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets.
Good Job Dems.
Gone 'round the bend, eh? *I hope you enjoy eating all this bull****
when it doesn't come true.
Rising unemployment is inevitable. *But it's the globalist Wall
Streeters to blame, not Obama. *Clinton and Bush II are the major
culprits.
From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt,
inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated
Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years.
That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down,
but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace..
Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale
exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that
period. *Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false
cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available.
Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid
illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your
grass. *That was the attitude I saw.
That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly
during Clinton and Bush II.
The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away.
What to do?
That's for Obama to figure out.
He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities.
The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi
calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with
money and tariffs. *Probably need a combination of both.
Wealth doesn't trickle down. *It works it's way up through osmosis
from those producing the goods we use.
That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the
service end throughout my life.
But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel.
So what I say don't really matter except to me.
--Vic
Completely agree. *That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to
do something about it is just plain dishonest.
I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. *Our society and the middle
class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take
advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and
labor rates the lowest.
Scummy business that's going to ruin this country.
Scummy business already has ruined this country.
The business called "unions".
What's funny is that you really don't get it. It's the business
practices since the Reagan mis-Administration that have done us in, the
unbridled greed of corporations and financial services companies that
has looted this country of its assets. Blaming that on the small
percentage of the workforce that is unionized just demonstrates your
simplemindedness.

Whoa, who woulda thunk that dead Reagan coulda tricked us inta
spending that nearly 2 trillion under Obama. *I spose that just shows
how great Reagan was to force Obama to spend all that money and
accomplish nothing.

Obama didn't create a failed economy...he inherited it.

HK you just keep repeating that mantra while standing in the
unemployment line.

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE
 

On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:49:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jul 2, 10:42*pm, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:18 pm, HK wrote:
Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:04 pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with
his stimulus and all. *Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be
unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. *You
seen any stimulus, SUCKER.
The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike
for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are
laying em off as fast as they can. *It's gonna be 15% by the end of
the year and 20% by this time next year. *Is Bozoma gonna pay your
mortgage? *Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send
you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while
he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets.
Good Job Dems.
Gone 'round the bend, eh? *I hope you enjoy eating all this bull****
when it doesn't come true.
Rising unemployment is inevitable. *But it's the globalist Wall
Streeters to blame, not Obama. *Clinton and Bush II are the major
culprits.
From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt,
inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated
Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years.
That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down,
but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace.
Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale
exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that
period. *Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false
cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available.
Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid
illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your
grass. *That was the attitude I saw.
That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly
during Clinton and Bush II.
The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away.
What to do?
That's for Obama to figure out.
He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities.
The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi
calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with
money and tariffs. *Probably need a combination of both.
Wealth doesn't trickle down. *It works it's way up through osmosis
from those producing the goods we use.
That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the
service end throughout my life.
But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel.
So what I say don't really matter except to me.
--Vic
Completely agree. *That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to
do something about it is just plain dishonest.
I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. *Our society and the middle
class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take
advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and
labor rates the lowest.
Scummy business that's going to ruin this country.
Scummy business already has ruined this country.
The business called "unions".
What's funny is that you really don't get it. It's the business
practices since the Reagan mis-Administration that have done us in, the
unbridled greed of corporations and financial services companies that
has looted this country of its assets. Blaming that on the small
percentage of the workforce that is unionized just demonstrates your
simplemindedness.

Whoa, who woulda thunk that dead Reagan coulda tricked us inta
spending that nearly 2 trillion under Obama. *I spose that just shows
how great Reagan was to force Obama to spend all that money and
accomplish nothing.

Obama didn't create a failed economy...he inherited it.

HK you just keep repeating that mantra while standing in the
unemployment line.

While unemployment may not have reached its ultimate height, we will
recover. The question is whether we recover from this smart or
stupid.

If we don't reinvest in America and find a way to build and sell goods
and services to our own citizens, following generations will be
screwed.

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE
 

On Jul 2, 11:17*pm, jps wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:49:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch



wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:42*pm, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:18 pm, HK wrote:
Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:04 pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with
his stimulus and all. *Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be
unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. *You
seen any stimulus, SUCKER.
The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike
for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are
laying em off as fast as they can. *It's gonna be 15% by the end of
the year and 20% by this time next year. *Is Bozoma gonna pay your
mortgage? *Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send
you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while
he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets.
Good Job Dems.
Gone 'round the bend, eh? *I hope you enjoy eating all this bull****
when it doesn't come true.
Rising unemployment is inevitable. *But it's the globalist Wall
Streeters to blame, not Obama. *Clinton and Bush II are the major
culprits.
From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt,
inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated
Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years.
That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down,
but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace.
Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale
exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that
period. *Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false
cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available.
Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid
illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your
grass. *That was the attitude I saw.
That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly
during Clinton and Bush II.
The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away.
What to do?
That's for Obama to figure out.
He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities.
The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi
calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with
money and tariffs. *Probably need a combination of both.
Wealth doesn't trickle down. *It works it's way up through osmosis
from those producing the goods we use.
That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the
service end throughout my life.
But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel..
So what I say don't really matter except to me.
--Vic
Completely agree. *That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to
do something about it is just plain dishonest.
I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. *Our society and the middle
class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take
advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and
labor rates the lowest.
Scummy business that's going to ruin this country.
Scummy business already has ruined this country.
The business called "unions".
What's funny is that you really don't get it. It's the business
practices since the Reagan mis-Administration that have done us in, the
unbridled greed of corporations and financial services companies that
has looted this country of its assets. Blaming that on the small
percentage of the workforce that is unionized just demonstrates your
simplemindedness.

Whoa, who woulda thunk that dead Reagan coulda tricked us inta
spending that nearly 2 trillion under Obama. *I spose that just shows
how great Reagan was to force Obama to spend all that money and
accomplish nothing.

Obama didn't create a failed economy...he inherited it.

HK you just keep repeating that mantra while standing in the
unemployment line.

While unemployment may not have reached its ultimate height, we will
recover. *The question is whether we recover from this smart or
stupid.

If we don't reinvest in America and find a way to build and sell goods
and services to our own citizens, following generations will be
screwed.

Well Obama has already enslaved any child born today by saddling him
with $40,000 in debt. When you are in debt, you dont spend freely.

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE
 

jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad with
his stimulus and all. Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be
unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush. You
seen any stimulus, SUCKER.
The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on strike
for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so thy are
laying em off as fast as they can. It's gonna be 15% by the end of
the year and 20% by this time next year. Is Bozoma gonna pay your
mortgage? Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might send
you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a beer while
he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets.
Good Job Dems.
Gone 'round the bend, eh? I hope you enjoy eating all this bull****
when it doesn't come true.
Rising unemployment is inevitable. But it's the globalist Wall
Streeters to blame, not Obama. Clinton and Bush II are the major
culprits.
From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt,
inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and inflated
Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years.
That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going down,
but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the populace.
Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale
exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during that
period. Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the false
cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available.
Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly paid
illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your
grass. That was the attitude I saw.
That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly
during Clinton and Bush II.
The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone away.
What to do?
That's for Obama to figure out.
He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities.
The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi
calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods with
money and tariffs. Probably need a combination of both.
Wealth doesn't trickle down. It works it's way up through osmosis
from those producing the goods we use.
That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and the
service end throughout my life.
But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel.
So what I say don't really matter except to me.

--Vic

Completely agree. That Obama is being blamed for it while trying to
do something about it is just plain dishonest.

I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. Our society and the middle
class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take
advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous and
labor rates the lowest.

Scummy business that's going to ruin this country.

Ahhhhh, a post from Just a Piece of ****...

Buh, Bye asshole, and you know you are.

plonk

9.5 WHOO-EEE, way to go DUDE
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:49:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jul 2, 10:42 pm, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:18 pm, HK wrote:
Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 10:04 pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:34:31 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:59:31 -0700, jps
wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
9.5% unemployment, wow, Bozoma told us it wouldnt get that bad
with
his stimulus and all. Dont feel so bad, now you can not only be
unemployed but $30,000 more in debt than you were under Bush.
You
seen any stimulus, SUCKER.
The reality is that those who produce the new jobs are all on
strike
for fear of being punished by Bozoma for having employees so
thy are
laying em off as fast as they can. It's gonna be 15% by the end
of
the year and 20% by this time next year. Is Bozoma gonna pay
your
mortgage? Hey, if you act nice like a good house slave he might
send
you a check for a couple of bucks, you know enough to buy a
beer while
he shovels trillions into his buddies pockets.
Good Job Dems.
Gone 'round the bend, eh? I hope you enjoy eating all this
bull****
when it doesn't come true.
Rising unemployment is inevitable. But it's the globalist Wall
Streeters to blame, not Obama. Clinton and Bush II are the major
culprits.
From what I see, the country has been supported by rising debt,
inflated real estate (more debt with 2nd, 3rd mortgages) and
inflated
Wall Street equity prices for roughly 15 years.
That debt based on bubbles didn't stop real wages from going
down,
but kept food on the table and enough toys to satisfy the
populace.
Somewhat an offset for much of the pain felt by the wholesale
exportation of American manufacturing, IT and engineering during
that
period. Service jobs did well enough in a false economy, as the
false
cash - derived from debt and bubbles - was available.
Forget about your financial future, enjoy your toys and poorly
paid
illegals serving you food, cleaning your house, and cutting your
grass. That was the attitude I saw.
That exportation of jobs started earlier, but accelerated greatly
during Clinton and Bush II.
The bubbles have burst, the debt is due, but the jobs have gone
away.
What to do?
That's for Obama to figure out.
He'll have nowhere to hide from his responsibilities.
The only way out now is to tax the well-off to keep the hoi poloi
calm, or start incentivizing the production of consumer goods
with
money and tariffs. Probably need a combination of both.
Wealth doesn't trickle down. It works it's way up through osmosis
from those producing the goods we use.
That's how I see it, having been on both the production end and
the
service end throughout my life.
But I'm not an economist, just a guy next to the cracker barrel.
So what I say don't really matter except to me.
--Vic
Completely agree. That Obama is being blamed for it while trying
to
do something about it is just plain dishonest.
I'm no fan of Clinton's global economy. Our society and the middle
class is being flushed down the toilet while the corporations take
advantage of whatever country's tax laws are the most advantageous
and
labor rates the lowest.
Scummy business that's going to ruin this country.
Scummy business already has ruined this country.
The business called "unions".
What's funny is that you really don't get it. It's the business
practices since the Reagan mis-Administration that have done us in,
the
unbridled greed of corporations and financial services companies that
has looted this country of its assets. Blaming that on the small
percentage of the workforce that is unionized just demonstrates your
simplemindedness.

Whoa, who woulda thunk that dead Reagan coulda tricked us inta
spending that nearly 2 trillion under Obama. I spose that just shows
how great Reagan was to force Obama to spend all that money and
accomplish nothing.

Obama didn't create a failed economy...he inherited it.

HK you just keep repeating that mantra while standing in the
unemployment line.

While unemployment may not have reached its ultimate height, we will
recover. The question is whether we recover from this smart or
stupid.

If we don't reinvest in America and find a way to build and sell goods
and services to our own citizens, following generations will be
screwed.

Investing in America, or funding 9000 earmarks in a foolish spending spree?
Obama and company are not investing in America!