On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:33:40 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jun 17, 1:30*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:22:59 -0400, Gene Kearns





wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:27:48 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:47 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:
|
|HK wrote:
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8M_B23dHco
|
|
| Smart company...
|
|It is ironic that a person who sails supports windmills. *Don't they
|remember the hours that they have sat on their boats on a windless
|summer evening.
|
|Do they think that the windmills will produce energy when there is not
|enough wind to move their boats?
|
|Thank God we're not as stupid as the liberal French making 80% of
|their electricity from nuclear energy!

I'm gonna lean toward the ultraconservatives and vote for wind. I
currently pay two power bills. The nuclear fuel one is 30% higher than
the fossil fuel one and that doesn't account for finally paying the
piper and figuring out what to do with all of the warehoused spent
fuel waste.....

I wonder how old is the technology behind that power plant?

http://tinyurl.com/czv338

*Also, how much does your nuclear plant contribute to global warming?
Which will kill off the population sooner, melting ice caps or the
disposal of what is now a very small amount of waste from nuclear
plants. Al Gore would have us believe we should be buying caskets
already.


So do you not believe that man made global warming is real because the
right tells you to think that?

Do you reckon this is just smoke and mirrors? Why?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7856609

Here's the full report, please keep an open mind, read what the
scientists are saying. It take awhile, it's 270 some pages long:

http://downloads.globalchange.gov/us...cts-report.pdf

--
John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:33:40 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jun 17, 1:30*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:22:59 -0400, Gene Kearns





wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:27:48 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:47 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:
|
|HK wrote:
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8M_B23dHco
|
|
| Smart company...
|
|It is ironic that a person who sails supports windmills. *Don't they
|remember the hours that they have sat on their boats on a windless
|summer evening.
|
|Do they think that the windmills will produce energy when there is not
|enough wind to move their boats?
|
|Thank God we're not as stupid as the liberal French making 80% of
|their electricity from nuclear energy!

I'm gonna lean toward the ultraconservatives and vote for wind. I
currently pay two power bills. The nuclear fuel one is 30% higher than
the fossil fuel one and that doesn't account for finally paying the
piper and figuring out what to do with all of the warehoused spent
fuel waste.....

I wonder how old is the technology behind that power plant?

http://tinyurl.com/czv338

*Also, how much does your nuclear plant contribute to global warming?
Which will kill off the population sooner, melting ice caps or the
disposal of what is now a very small amount of waste from nuclear
plants? Al Gore would have us believe we should be buying caskets
already.


So do you not believe that man made global warming is real because the
right tells you to think that?

Do you reckon this is just smoke and mirrors? Why?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7856609

Here's the full report, please keep an open mind, read what the
scientists are saying. It take awhile, it's 270 some pages long:

http://downloads.globalchange.gov/us...cts-report.pdf

Loogy, go back and re-read my post. I make no proclamations about the
validity of Al Gore's claims.

I asked a question.
--
John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill

On Jun 17, 3:55*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:33:40 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jun 17, 1:30*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:22:59 -0400, Gene Kearns

wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:27:48 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:47 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:
|
|HK wrote:
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8M_B23dHco
|
|
| Smart company...
|
|It is ironic that a person who sails supports windmills. *Don't they
|remember the hours that they have sat on their boats on a windless
|summer evening.
|
|Do they think that the windmills will produce energy when there is not
|enough wind to move their boats?
|
|Thank God we're not as stupid as the liberal French making 80% of
|their electricity from nuclear energy!

I'm gonna lean toward the ultraconservatives and vote for wind. I
currently pay two power bills. The nuclear fuel one is 30% higher than
the fossil fuel one and that doesn't account for finally paying the
piper and figuring out what to do with all of the warehoused spent
fuel waste.....

I wonder how old is the technology behind that power plant?

http://tinyurl.com/czv338

*Also, how much does your nuclear plant contribute to global warming?
Which will kill off the population sooner, melting ice caps or the
disposal of what is now a very small amount of waste from nuclear
plants? Al Gore would have us believe we should be buying caskets
already.

So do you not believe that man made global warming is real because the
right tells you to think that?

Do you reckon this is just smoke and mirrors? Why?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7856609

Here's the full report, please keep an open mind, read what the
scientists are saying. It take awhile, it's 270 some pages long:

http://downloads.globalchange.gov/us...e-impacts-repo...

Loogy, go back and re-read my post. I make no proclamations about the
validity of Al Gore's claims.

You certainly have in the past, I didn't know your stance had changed,
although I'm glad it has!

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jun 17, 3:55*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:33:40 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jun 17, 1:30*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:22:59 -0400, Gene Kearns

wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:27:48 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:47 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:
|
|HK wrote:
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8M_B23dHco
|
|
| Smart company...
|
|It is ironic that a person who sails supports windmills. *Don't they
|remember the hours that they have sat on their boats on a windless
|summer evening.
|
|Do they think that the windmills will produce energy when there is not
|enough wind to move their boats?
|
|Thank God we're not as stupid as the liberal French making 80% of
|their electricity from nuclear energy!

I'm gonna lean toward the ultraconservatives and vote for wind. I
currently pay two power bills. The nuclear fuel one is 30% higher than
the fossil fuel one and that doesn't account for finally paying the
piper and figuring out what to do with all of the warehoused spent
fuel waste.....

I wonder how old is the technology behind that power plant?

http://tinyurl.com/czv338

*Also, how much does your nuclear plant contribute to global warming?
Which will kill off the population sooner, melting ice caps or the
disposal of what is now a very small amount of waste from nuclear
plants? Al Gore would have us believe we should be buying caskets
already.

So do you not believe that man made global warming is real because the
right tells you to think that?

Do you reckon this is just smoke and mirrors? Why?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7856609

Here's the full report, please keep an open mind, read what the
scientists are saying. It take awhile, it's 270 some pages long:

http://downloads.globalchange.gov/us...e-impacts-repo...

Loogy, go back and re-read my post. I make no proclamations about the
validity of Al Gore's claims.

You certainly have in the past, I didn't know your stance had changed,
although I'm glad it has!

I made no comments about my stance one way or the other. Read the
post.

I asked questions.


--
John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill

Loogypicker wrote:
On Jun 17, 1:30 pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:22:59 -0400, Gene Kearns





wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:27:48 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:47 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:
|
|HK wrote:
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8M_B23dHco
|
|
| Smart company...
|
|It is ironic that a person who sails supports windmills. Don't they
|remember the hours that they have sat on their boats on a windless
|summer evening.
|
|Do they think that the windmills will produce energy when there is not
|enough wind to move their boats?
|
|Thank God we're not as stupid as the liberal French making 80% of
|their electricity from nuclear energy!
I'm gonna lean toward the ultraconservatives and vote for wind. I
currently pay two power bills. The nuclear fuel one is 30% higher than
the fossil fuel one and that doesn't account for finally paying the
piper and figuring out what to do with all of the warehoused spent
fuel waste.....
I wonder how old is the technology behind that power plant?

http://tinyurl.com/czv338

Also, how much does your nuclear plant contribute to global warming?
Which will kill off the population sooner, melting ice caps or the
disposal of what is now a very small amount of waste from nuclear
plants. Al Gore would have us believe we should be buying caskets
already.


So do you not believe that man made global warming is real because the
right tells you to think that?

Do you reckon this is just smoke and mirrors? Why?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7856609

Here's the full report, please keep an open mind, read what the
scientists are saying. It take awhile, it's 270 some pages long:

http://downloads.globalchange.gov/us...cts-report.pdf

For every pro global warming article there is one that shows the
opposite. Global warming is basically a computer model that some people
have been trying to prove for several years. What you don't read about
in the government press is the glaciers that are expanding, the cold
ocean currents that are getting stronger, or the sunspot cycles that
control the weather.

In the reports from the scientist that I have read there is a lot of
questionable science, such as the one reporting an increasing acidity of
the ocean. The differences they were claiming was global warming was
the variance in the standards used to calibrate their meters used to
take the readings.

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:50:09 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:33:40 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

*Also, how much does your nuclear plant contribute to global warming?
Which will kill off the population sooner, melting ice caps or the
disposal of what is now a very small amount of waste from nuclear
plants. Al Gore would have us believe we should be buying caskets
already.


So do you not believe that man made global warming is real because the
right tells you to think that?

Warming does seem to be real, even that man contributed to it seems
real. The operative question is how much can we actually do about it.
The warming trend tracks population and the rise of agriculture as
closely as any other metric.
I suppose the upcoming thermonuclear war will trim off a significant
portion of the population and the particulates in the air will knock
down a lot of that greenhouse effect so all will be well.
If our luck holds from the last two world wars we may actually be able
to fight this on the other side of the planet too.
I hope that "On the Beach" stuff isn't true.
I am long on Ambex stock tho, just in case ;-)

I wonder, where is the outrage at stories like this:

http://www.mariri.net/content/view/28/1/


--
John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill

John H wrote:

I wonder, where is the outrage at stories like this:

http://www.mariri.net/content/view/28/1/


--
John H

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Churchill

More profit to be found in acai berries. Hucksters are squeezing the
juice and selling it for about $$35$$ per bottle. The poor SA harvesters
are probably reaping pennies per bushel to collect the berries.
Now that's a story the old hairball can sink his tooth into.

On Jun 17, 4:31*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jun 17, 3:55*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:33:40 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Jun 17, 1:30*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:22:59 -0400, Gene Kearns

wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:27:48 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:47 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:
|
|HK wrote:
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8M_B23dHco
|
|
| Smart company...
|
|It is ironic that a person who sails supports windmills. *Don't they
|remember the hours that they have sat on their boats on a windless
|summer evening.
|
|Do they think that the windmills will produce energy when there is not
|enough wind to move their boats?
|
|Thank God we're not as stupid as the liberal French making 80% of
|their electricity from nuclear energy!

I'm gonna lean toward the ultraconservatives and vote for wind. I
currently pay two power bills. The nuclear fuel one is 30% higher than
the fossil fuel one and that doesn't account for finally paying the
piper and figuring out what to do with all of the warehoused spent
fuel waste.....

I wonder how old is the technology behind that power plant?

http://tinyurl.com/czv338

*Also, how much does your nuclear plant contribute to global warming?
Which will kill off the population sooner, melting ice caps or the
disposal of what is now a very small amount of waste from nuclear
plants? Al Gore would have us believe we should be buying caskets
already.

So do you not believe that man made global warming is real because the
right tells you to think that?

Do you reckon this is just smoke and mirrors? Why?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7856609

Here's the full report, please keep an open mind, read what the
scientists are saying. It take awhile, it's 270 some pages long:

http://downloads.globalchange.gov/us...e-impacts-repo....

Loogy, go back and re-read my post. I make no proclamations about the
validity of Al Gore's claims.

You certainly have in the past, I didn't know your stance had changed,
although I'm glad it has!

I made no comments about my stance one way or the other. Read the
post.

I asked questions.

--
John H

As I said, you have many times before, right here in rec.boats made a
stance and negated the validity of Gore's claims.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:16:50 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jun 17, 4:31*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jun 17, 3:55*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:33:40 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Jun 17, 1:30*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:22:59 -0400, Gene Kearns

wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:27:48 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:47 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:
|
|HK wrote:
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8M_B23dHco
|
|
| Smart company...
|
|It is ironic that a person who sails supports windmills. *Don't they
|remember the hours that they have sat on their boats on a windless
|summer evening.
|
|Do they think that the windmills will produce energy when there is not
|enough wind to move their boats?
|
|Thank God we're not as stupid as the liberal French making 80% of
|their electricity from nuclear energy!

I'm gonna lean toward the ultraconservatives and vote for wind. I
currently pay two power bills. The nuclear fuel one is 30% higher than
the fossil fuel one and that doesn't account for finally paying the
piper and figuring out what to do with all of the warehoused spent
fuel waste.....

I wonder how old is the technology behind that power plant?

http://tinyurl.com/czv338

*Also, how much does your nuclear plant contribute to global warming?
Which will kill off the population sooner, melting ice caps or the
disposal of what is now a very small amount of waste from nuclear
plants? Al Gore would have us believe we should be buying caskets
already.

So do you not believe that man made global warming is real because the
right tells you to think that?

Do you reckon this is just smoke and mirrors? Why?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7856609

Here's the full report, please keep an open mind, read what the
scientists are saying. It take awhile, it's 270 some pages long:

http://downloads.globalchange.gov/us...e-impacts-repo...

Loogy, go back and re-read my post. I make no proclamations about the
validity of Al Gore's claims.

You certainly have in the past, I didn't know your stance had changed,
although I'm glad it has!

I made no comments about my stance one way or the other. Read the
post.

I asked questions.

--
John H

As I said, you have many times before, right here in rec.boats made a
stance and negated the validity of Gore's claims.

I asked questions, which you have yet to address. Why? They're valid
questions.

As to Gore's claims - they are pure adulterated bull**** with almost
no basis in science. Many, many very gullible people believe them,
which is why Gore is making a big fortune. How much have you
contributed to his companies?
--
John H

I once shook hands with a pudgy guy who:

Sailed from San Francisco to Hawaii.
Rounded Cape Horn, twice.
Transited the Panama Canal.
Has owned more than 20 boats in his lifetime.
Sailed large boats competitively.
Has been hundreds of miles from land in a powerboat
under his command.

And who set a new record for the most distance covered
and most fish caught in the Chesapeake Bay in the shortest
time!

On Jun 18, 8:25*am, John H wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:16:50 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Jun 17, 4:31*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Jun 17, 3:55*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:33:40 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker

wrote:
On Jun 17, 1:30*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:22:59 -0400, Gene Kearns

wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:27:48 -0400, John H penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:47 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:
|
|HK wrote:
|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8M_B23dHco
|
|
| Smart company...
|
|It is ironic that a person who sails supports windmills. *Don't they
|remember the hours that they have sat on their boats on a windless
|summer evening.
|
|Do they think that the windmills will produce energy when there is not
|enough wind to move their boats?
|
|Thank God we're not as stupid as the liberal French making 80% of
|their electricity from nuclear energy!

I'm gonna lean toward the ultraconservatives and vote for wind. I
currently pay two power bills. The nuclear fuel one is 30% higher than
the fossil fuel one and that doesn't account for finally paying the
piper and figuring out what to do with all of the warehoused spent
fuel waste.....

I wonder how old is the technology behind that power plant?

http://tinyurl.com/czv338

*Also, how much does your nuclear plant contribute to global warming?
Which will kill off the population sooner, melting ice caps or the
disposal of what is now a very small amount of waste from nuclear
plants? Al Gore would have us believe we should be buying caskets
already.

So do you not believe that man made global warming is real because the
right tells you to think that?

Do you reckon this is just smoke and mirrors? Why?
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7856609

Here's the full report, please keep an open mind, read what the
scientists are saying. It take awhile, it's 270 some pages long:

http://downloads.globalchange.gov/us...e-impacts-repo...

Loogy, go back and re-read my post. I make no proclamations about the
validity of Al Gore's claims.

You certainly have in the past, I didn't know your stance had changed,
although I'm glad it has!

I made no comments about my stance one way or the other. Read the
post.

I asked questions.

--
John H

As I said, you have many times before, right here in rec.boats made a
stance and negated the validity of Gore's claims.

I asked questions, which you have yet to address. Why? They're valid
questions.

As to Gore's claims - they are pure adulterated bull**** with almost
no basis in science. Many, many very gullible people believe them,
which is why Gore is making a big fortune. How much have you
contributed to his companies?
--
John H


I take it you didn't bother reading the entire NOAA findings?