On May 27, 2:22*pm, John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:37:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On May 27, 8:23*am, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:12:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On May 23, 10:58*am, wrote:
On May 23, 11:20*am, John H wrote:

I use a chimney. Haven't had a bottle of lighter fluid in years. When
I use my offset smoker, I use charcoal to get a bed of coals, then
it's just hunks of hickory and oak. My weber, I use lump charcoal. Did
you know that Henry Ford invented the charcoal briquette? He wanted to
find a use for the oak scraps that came from the seat frames of his
cars. Kingsford was his cousin.

Y'know. that's oen thing I've enver used was a chimney. I usually put
the self staring charcoal . (Yes the stuff that's soaked in lighter
fluid) ... I pile it up, then put regular charcoal on top and around
it and mike a nice pyramid. Light the stuff in the center then leave
it for about 15-20 min. then knock the pyramid down and around, and
add some ore regular on top of it. *It's good for a couple hrs
grilling.

I'm starting to think twice about chimneys. *Maybe they're not
designing them right. *At least the last couple I've had.
I always squirt some fluid in there to speed them up.
Think they're too much like a chimney, when a pot shape works better.
Before they were selling chimneys, a friend was using a big coffee can
with holes punched in it. *No bottom. *First time I saw any other way
than piling it up. *Late '70's I think.
I happened to have a 2-gallon can of German beer in the fridge and
instead of tossing the empty I cut off both the ends and punched holes
all around. *That worked better than any chimney I've bought.
Lasted about 5 years. *No handle, but you just pull it out with tongs.

I don't light up the thing to do just a couple pork steaks. I'll do
15-20 lb's at a time. My brother will stop in and pick up a load to
take home to his family and I've got some for the neighbors too.

Three pieces of chicken and a few brats will get mine fired up.
We shut the vents (Weber) and reuse the coals. *Just add some more
new ones.
Messy, and you need a good little shovel.
Like loogy said, Henry Ford was the first greenie, re-using frame
waste to make charcoal.
Maybe he's The Father of BBQ?

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I buy the Weber chimneys. They're more expensive than generic kinds
but they work better. Two pieces of newspaper. Not one and a half, not
two and a half. Two sheets, dry charcoal. I bought a charcoal bin
(Kingsford) at Home Depot to keep the stuff dry as possible.

Yeah, what he said.
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Yep, and another trick is to turn it once, so that the wind will get
to the opposite side if there is a slght breeze.

On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:21:24 -0400, John H
wrote:



Do you wad up two full sheets of newspaper and put in the bottom? The
Washington Post is good for little else, but it will start charcoal. I
plan for twenty minutes, and it's never failed to be on time.

No. I just won't use newspaper. Tried it once, and the ashes stayed
around. I just squirt a little fluid in and light it.
I'm never in a hurry, and tell the truth my wife or a kid has been
doing it all the last few years.
I'm going to have to take charge again. She's burned her last brat.
I get a kick out that commercial where the wife starts to light the
charcoal and the husband grabs her hand and gets all flustered.
"It's like I would come into your kitchen and make a salad. How would
you like that?"

--Vic

On May 27, 3:20*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:21:24 -0400, John H
wrote:



Do you wad up two full sheets of newspaper and put in the bottom? The
Washington Post is good for little else, but it will start charcoal. I
plan for twenty minutes, and it's never failed to be on time.

No. *I just won't use newspaper. *Tried it once, and the ashes stayed
around. *I just squirt a little fluid in and light it.
I'm never in a hurry, and tell the truth my wife or a kid has been
doing it all the last few years.
I'm going to have to take charge again. *She's burned her last brat.
I get a kick out that commercial where the wife starts to light the
charcoal and the husband grabs her hand and gets all flustered.
"It's like I would come into your kitchen and make a salad. *How would
you like that?"

--Vic

I can smell the fluid residue on anything that's cooked, that's why I
use newspaper. Pick the chimney up and move it off of the the paper
then whack the newspaper ashes a couple of times with your grill brush
and they are gone.

On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:20:21 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:21:24 -0400, John H
wrote:



Do you wad up two full sheets of newspaper and put in the bottom? The
Washington Post is good for little else, but it will start charcoal. I
plan for twenty minutes, and it's never failed to be on time.

No. I just won't use newspaper. Tried it once, and the ashes stayed
around. I just squirt a little fluid in and light it.
I'm never in a hurry, and tell the truth my wife or a kid has been
doing it all the last few years.
I'm going to have to take charge again. She's burned her last brat.
I get a kick out that commercial where the wife starts to light the
charcoal and the husband grabs her hand and gets all flustered.
"It's like I would come into your kitchen and make a salad. How would
you like that?"

--Vic

I just pour the hot coals over the newspaper ashes. What the hell,
ashes are ashes. By the time I put the food on, any ashes have
settled.

But, each to his own. I detest the smell and taste of charcoal
lighter, and it's just one more thing to run out of.
--

John H

John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:20:21 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:21:24 -0400, John H
wrote:


Do you wad up two full sheets of newspaper and put in the bottom? The
Washington Post is good for little else, but it will start charcoal. I
plan for twenty minutes, and it's never failed to be on time.
No. I just won't use newspaper. Tried it once, and the ashes stayed
around. I just squirt a little fluid in and light it.
I'm never in a hurry, and tell the truth my wife or a kid has been
doing it all the last few years.
I'm going to have to take charge again. She's burned her last brat.
I get a kick out that commercial where the wife starts to light the
charcoal and the husband grabs her hand and gets all flustered.
"It's like I would come into your kitchen and make a salad. How would
you like that?"

--Vic

I just pour the hot coals over the newspaper ashes. What the hell,
ashes are ashes. By the time I put the food on, any ashes have
settled.

But, each to his own. I detest the smell and taste of charcoal
lighter, and it's just one more thing to run out of.
--

John H

yes, but what are you going to do when the newspapers all go under?

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

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On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:01:10 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:20:21 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:21:24 -0400, John H
wrote:


Do you wad up two full sheets of newspaper and put in the bottom? The
Washington Post is good for little else, but it will start charcoal. I
plan for twenty minutes, and it's never failed to be on time.
No. I just won't use newspaper. Tried it once, and the ashes stayed
around. I just squirt a little fluid in and light it.
I'm never in a hurry, and tell the truth my wife or a kid has been
doing it all the last few years.
I'm going to have to take charge again. She's burned her last brat.
I get a kick out that commercial where the wife starts to light the
charcoal and the husband grabs her hand and gets all flustered.
"It's like I would come into your kitchen and make a salad. How would
you like that?"

--Vic

I just pour the hot coals over the newspaper ashes. What the hell,
ashes are ashes. By the time I put the food on, any ashes have
settled.

But, each to his own. I detest the smell and taste of charcoal
lighter, and it's just one more thing to run out of.
--

John H

yes, but what are you going to do when the newspapers all go under?

Burn my twenty-two volume Oxford dictionary and the twelve CDs that I
use to check spelling.
--

John H

On Wed, 27 May 2009 15:52:55 -0400, John H
wrote:


I just pour the hot coals over the newspaper ashes. What the hell,
ashes are ashes. By the time I put the food on, any ashes have
settled.

But, each to his own. I detest the smell and taste of charcoal
lighter, and it's just one more thing to run out of.

Too much newsprint mercury and cyanide on the food when you use
newspaper. Rather have diesel.
Seriously, the lighter smell never bothered me.
If I'm out, I just light the corners of a couple briquettes with a
lighter. Burn my fingers sometimes. Battle scars.

--Vic

On May 27, 4:13*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 15:52:55 -0400, John H
wrote:



I just pour the hot coals over the newspaper ashes. What the hell,
ashes are ashes. By the time I put the food on, any ashes have
settled.

But, each to his own. I detest the smell and taste of charcoal
lighter, and it's just one more thing to run out of.

Too much newsprint mercury and cyanide on the food when you use
newspaper. *Rather have diesel.
Seriously, the lighter smell never bothered me.
If I'm out, I just light the corners of a couple briquettes with a
lighter. *Burn my fingers sometimes. *Battle scars.

--Vic

I use my torch! In competitions you'll never, ever see lighter fluid.
Those keen judges can smell and taste it a mile away. I actually
watched a judge open a carton in the rib catagory, took a whiff, said
"fluid" and marked the scorecard accordingly. She then tasted it, and
said "fluid" and marked her card accordingly. And these ribs are
usually smoked low and slow for a couple of hours and the fluid still
flavored them. Now most people's palates aren't that keen, but. Same
with beer judges, they'll rip a beer apart that some would find VERY
good.

On Wed, 27 May 2009 13:20:44 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 27, 4:13Â*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 15:52:55 -0400, John H
wrote:



I just pour the hot coals over the newspaper ashes. What the hell,
ashes are ashes. By the time I put the food on, any ashes have
settled.

But, each to his own. I detest the smell and taste of charcoal
lighter, and it's just one more thing to run out of.

Too much newsprint mercury and cyanide on the food when you use
newspaper. Â*Rather have diesel.
Seriously, the lighter smell never bothered me.
If I'm out, I just light the corners of a couple briquettes with a
lighter. Â*Burn my fingers sometimes. Â*Battle scars.

--Vic

I use my torch! In competitions you'll never, ever see lighter fluid.
Those keen judges can smell and taste it a mile away. I actually
watched a judge open a carton in the rib catagory, took a whiff, said
"fluid" and marked the scorecard accordingly. She then tasted it, and
said "fluid" and marked her card accordingly. And these ribs are
usually smoked low and slow for a couple of hours and the fluid still
flavored them. Now most people's palates aren't that keen, but. Same
with beer judges, they'll rip a beer apart that some would find VERY
good.

Didn't know BBQ judges were elitist snobs. Sounds like a wine and
cheese soiree to me.

--Vic

John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:01:10 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:20:21 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:21:24 -0400, John H
wrote:


Do you wad up two full sheets of newspaper and put in the bottom? The
Washington Post is good for little else, but it will start charcoal. I
plan for twenty minutes, and it's never failed to be on time.
No. I just won't use newspaper. Tried it once, and the ashes stayed
around. I just squirt a little fluid in and light it.
I'm never in a hurry, and tell the truth my wife or a kid has been
doing it all the last few years.
I'm going to have to take charge again. She's burned her last brat.
I get a kick out that commercial where the wife starts to light the
charcoal and the husband grabs her hand and gets all flustered.
"It's like I would come into your kitchen and make a salad. How would
you like that?"

--Vic
I just pour the hot coals over the newspaper ashes. What the hell,
ashes are ashes. By the time I put the food on, any ashes have
settled.

But, each to his own. I detest the smell and taste of charcoal
lighter, and it's just one more thing to run out of.
--

John H
yes, but what are you going to do when the newspapers all go under?

Burn my twenty-two volume Oxford dictionary and the twelve CDs that I
use to check spelling.
--

John H

That will cover you and your grandkids

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
no way are to be considered flaws or defects