"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:41:55 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

Great analogy. The gyros here in Florida, especially Tarpon Springs, are
the
OK. The pizza, it sucks, big time. About the only thing I miss from
Chicago is the pizza from a mom and pop restaurant.

Bummer. I only had a couple pizzas in Florida. One totally sucked,
and the other was at a Pizza Hut. Much better, yet it totally sucked.
Seems funny they don't get any Chicago/NY pizza-making migrants down
there. Maybe there's a joint you haven't found yet?
I got forever spoiled at a gyros place called Three Sons, on Milwaukee
just off Central Park. Forgot their names now, but the old man, his
wife and one son ran it. The old man was best at slicing, but his son
was close. Sharpened the knife at least twice to cut a single plate.
They cut so thin you could see light through the slices.
Makes a big difference in taste. Good home made yogurt sauce too.
Oddly enough, my wife bought a gyros "kit" at the grocery last week.
Came with the pita, sauce, which was decent, and gyros sliced thinner
than most shops I've tried. She added onion and tomato.
Told her to fry it up good.
Wasn't too bad, but I told her to never buy it again.
Like I said, I'm spoiled. Think I'll drive into the city and see if
Three Sons is still there.

--Vic

I've tried several non-franchised pizza place here and they all suck. I had
a good friend that owned a pizza restaurant on the NW side (still there
after 30 some years, now run by his kids) and had a winter home some where
in the Florida pan handle. I asked him about the pizza in Florida. His
opinion was they cannot get the right cheese or sausage down there. Too
expensive to have it flown in from up there where it's readily available.

I haven't been in Chicago in 3 years when my aunt was ill and dying. My
brother (lives in Michigan) lived on pizza and Italian beef sandwiches for
about a month. I gained 13 pounds.

I sure do miss that part of the city. A beef joint opened down here with a
Chicago theme and their beef is not bad. They don't have the good Italian
bread to put on so they only get an acceptable rating from me.

On Thu, 7 May 2009 11:22:20 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

I haven't been in Chicago in 3 years when my aunt was ill and dying. My
brother (lives in Michigan) lived on pizza and Italian beef sandwiches for
about a month. I gained 13 pounds.

Wait a minute. Your brother lived on pizza and Italian beef but you
gained 13 pounds. That's pretty sly.
I always blame my brother too (-:

I sure do miss that part of the city. A beef joint opened down here with a
Chicago theme and their beef is not bad. They don't have the good Italian
bread to put on so they only get an acceptable rating from me.

I'm going into the city tomorrow for sure now. Probably get an
Italian beef with peppers. I'll let you know.

--Vic

On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:22:20 -0400, D.Duck wrote:



His opinion was they cannot get the right cheese or sausage
down there. Too expensive to have it flown in from up there where it's
readily available.

I thought it was the water. The local Florida bread leaves something to
be desired also.

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:22:20 -0400, D.Duck wrote:



His opinion was they cannot get the right cheese or sausage
down there. Too expensive to have it flown in from up there where it's
readily available.

I thought it was the water. The local Florida bread leaves something to
be desired also.


When we first moved to Florida, and I went grocery shopping, I was
astonished at:

a. the lousy, crustless, tasteless substance that was being passed off
as bread. No matter what sort of bread it was pretending to be, it had
the same sponginess and pretty much the same taste. Lousy rolls, too.
We found *one* deli in the entire Jax area that "imported" its bread
daily from Baltimore, and it was pretty good.

b. the high price of produce. I really thought we'd be paying a lot less
at the grocery store for produce. Nope.

Where we live now, the best bread is baked by our local Panera store.
Real bread of substance with real crust. The supermarkets serve up
"spongy" bread, for the most part.

On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:49:12 -0400, HK wrote:

a. the lousy, crustless, tasteless substance that was being passed off
as bread. No matter what sort of bread it was pretending to be, it had
the same sponginess and pretty much the same taste. Lousy rolls, too.
We found *one* deli in the entire Jax area that "imported" its bread
daily from Baltimore, and it was pretty good.

I've bought decent bread at Publix. They bake on site. French and
Italian. Might be local practices. Never found the ryes or black
breads we get baked locally here.
Selection is much better in Florida than it was 10-20 years ago.
I'm talking Charlotte Harbor area.

b. the high price of produce. I really thought we'd be paying a lot less
at the grocery store for produce. Nope.

My dad is always bitching about that.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:49:12 -0400, HK wrote:
a. the lousy, crustless, tasteless substance that was being passed off
as bread. No matter what sort of bread it was pretending to be, it had
the same sponginess and pretty much the same taste. Lousy rolls, too.
We found *one* deli in the entire Jax area that "imported" its bread
daily from Baltimore, and it was pretty good.

I've bought decent bread at Publix. They bake on site. French and
Italian. Might be local practices. Never found the ryes or black
breads we get baked locally here.
Selection is much better in Florida than it was 10-20 years ago.
I'm talking Charlotte Harbor area.

b. the high price of produce. I really thought we'd be paying a lot less
at the grocery store for produce. Nope.

My dad is always bitching about that.

--Vic

When we moved to Florida, Publix had lousy bread. I'm glad to hear it
has improved, at least in your area. We'll be in Florida later this
month, and will check it out.

HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:49:12 -0400, HK wrote:
a. the lousy, crustless, tasteless substance that was being passed
off as bread. No matter what sort of bread it was pretending to be,
it had the same sponginess and pretty much the same taste. Lousy
rolls, too.
We found *one* deli in the entire Jax area that "imported" its bread
daily from Baltimore, and it was pretty good.

I've bought decent bread at Publix. They bake on site. French and
Italian. Might be local practices. Never found the ryes or black
breads we get baked locally here.
Selection is much better in Florida than it was 10-20 years ago.
I'm talking Charlotte Harbor area.

b. the high price of produce. I really thought we'd be paying a lot
less at the grocery store for produce. Nope.

My dad is always bitching about that.

--Vic

When we moved to Florida, Publix had lousy bread. I'm glad to hear it
has improved, at least in your area. We'll be in Florida later this
month, and will check it out.

Thanks for the warning.

On May 7, 11:14*am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:49:12 -0400, HK wrote:
a. the lousy, crustless, tasteless substance that was being passed off
as bread. No matter what sort of bread it was pretending to be, it had
the same sponginess and pretty much the same taste. Lousy rolls, too.
We found *one* deli in the entire Jax area that "imported" its bread
daily from Baltimore, and it was pretty good.

I've bought decent bread at Publix. *They bake on site. *French and
Italian. *Might be local practices. *Never found the ryes or black
breads we get baked locally here.
Selection is much better in Florida than it was 10-20 years ago.
I'm talking Charlotte Harbor area.

b. the high price of produce. I really thought we'd be paying a lot less
at the grocery store for produce. Nope.

My dad is always bitching about that.

--Vic

When we moved to Florida, Publix had lousy bread. I'm glad to hear it
has improved, at least in your area. We'll be in Florida later this
month, and will check it out.

Herr Krause.

This must be true regardless of what the locals may believe, because
everywhere you go you only seek out the finest and anything else is
sub to your standard, but probably to no one else.

On May 7, 12:01*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:49:12 -0400, HK wrote:

a. the lousy, crustless, tasteless substance that was being passed off
as bread. No matter what sort of bread it was pretending to be, it had
the same sponginess and pretty much the same taste. Lousy rolls, too.
We found *one* deli in the entire Jax area that "imported" its bread
daily from Baltimore, and it was pretty good.

I've bought decent bread at Publix. *They bake on site. *French and
Italian. *Might be local practices. *Never found the ryes or black
breads we get baked locally here.
Selection is much better in Florida than it was 10-20 years ago.
I'm talking Charlotte Harbor area.

b. the high price of produce. I really thought we'd be paying a lot less
at the grocery store for produce. Nope.

My dad is always bitching about that.

--Vic

That's funny. I have not been following the thread but this post had
me thinking about our partner in Florida. He grew up here in CT until
he was in his 20's and he is now in his 40's and still complains about
the bread in Florida. Every time he visits he wants "CT" bread made
with local water, says he can tell the difference and hates his local
bread. He swears he can tell the difference in the beer too. Drinks
one mainstream brand down there, a competetors brew up here. (Both
cheap American beer).

On May 7, 12:28*pm, wrote:
On May 7, 12:01*pm, Vic Smith wrote:





On Thu, 07 May 2009 11:49:12 -0400, HK wrote:

a. the lousy, crustless, tasteless substance that was being passed off
as bread. No matter what sort of bread it was pretending to be, it had
the same sponginess and pretty much the same taste. Lousy rolls, too.
We found *one* deli in the entire Jax area that "imported" its bread
daily from Baltimore, and it was pretty good.

I've bought decent bread at Publix. *They bake on site. *French and
Italian. *Might be local practices. *Never found the ryes or black
breads we get baked locally here.
Selection is much better in Florida than it was 10-20 years ago.
I'm talking Charlotte Harbor area.

b. the high price of produce. I really thought we'd be paying a lot less
at the grocery store for produce. Nope.

My dad is always bitching about that.

--Vic

That's funny. I have not been following the thread but this post had
me thinking about our partner in Florida. He grew up here in CT until
he was in his 20's and he is now in his 40's and still complains about
the bread in Florida. Every time he visits he wants "CT" bread made
with local water, says he can tell the difference and hates his local
bread. He swears he can tell the difference in the beer too. Drinks
one mainstream brand down there, a competetors brew up here. (Both
cheap American beer).- Hide quoted text -

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Oh, and since I started reading the thread, add pizza and grinders to
the things he hates about Fla and wants to have when he comes to CT...
Guess he is kind of picky, but he gets good eats. His wife is about
the best cook I know (with respect to Loogie, "of the cooks I have
sampled" ... Mostly South/SouthEast style cooking but she can do
almost anything good...